Did God send this virus into the world

[Dave L]

If that were true... Why pray, why go to church, why witness to unbelievers, why care about an illness, why care about whether your kids get an education... Cause... it's all planned and laid out without any input or decisions of our own... Just walk through life controlled by your robotic program.

God uses means to fulfill his eternal plan.

 

[Dave L]

That would indicate that we have no free will. God might as well have made a bunch of robots, made them love and obey and worship Him and avoid all this life we experience.

God forms Christ in believers through their experiences. He increases the sin and punishment through the experiences of the rest.

 

[Dave L]

I don’t see the relevance of the post to this discussion. That is what I keep asking you.

It says what it says and you instead pick at the spelling.

 

[Archivist]

It says what it says and you instead pick at the spelling.

Yes, and you corrected that. Now I’m asking you how it applies to your claim that God sends disasters and pandemics.

 

[Dave L]

Yes, and you corrected that. Now I’m asking you how it applies to your claim that God sends disasters and pandemics.

“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?” Amos 3:6 (KJV 1900)

 

[renniks]

Salvation was only of the Jews. He needed to convert to Judaism and join the community. = unsaved and cursed out of existence as a people.

Um, nope, salvation has always been by faith.

 

[Dave L]

Um, nope, salvation has always been by faith.

Without any gospel?

 

[renniks]

“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?” Amos 3:6 (KJV 1900)

Again, speaking of Israel and God's response to their rebellion. And it's disaster, not evil.

 

[Dave L]

Again, speaking of Israel and God's response to their rebellion. And it's disaster, not evil.

But salvation is for Israel only. Even today. One must be part of Israel or perish.

 

[renniks]

Without any gospel?

Faith in God, as he was revealed to them. For example, Adam and Eve. How were they saved?

 

[Dave L]

Faith in God, as he was revealed to them. For example, Adam and Eve. How were they saved?

God preached the gospel to Eve.

 

[renniks]

Salvation was only of the Jews. He needed to convert to Judaism and join the community. = unsaved and cursed out of existence as a people.

Did the Ninevites all convert to Judaism? There are other examples in the Bible also. No reason to think others could not be grafted in before Christ if they repented.

 

[renniks]

God preached the gospel to Eve.

And all the others before Judaism even existed? Was Job an isralite?

 

[Dave L]

Did the Ninevites all convert to Judaism? There are other examples in the Bible also. No reason to think others could not be grafted in before Christ if they repented.

Were the Ninevites saved? How did repentance save them when salvation is not of works? Did it save them from God annihilating them only?

 

[Dave L]

And all the others before Judaism even existed? Was Job an isralite?

He was born again and walked in the light God provided at Eden.

 

[Archivist]

“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?” Amos 3:6 (KJV 1900)

And what does this have to do with what you said in your post 186. It would be nice if you would answer questions.

 

[Dave L]

And what does this have to do with what you said in your post 186. It would be nice if you would answer questions.

It shows God's use of evil.

 

[Archivist]

It shows God's use of evil.

But that isn’t what you were addressing in post 186.

 

[renniks]

He was born again and walked in the light God provided at Eden.

You are contradicting what you just said.

 

[renniks]

Were the Ninevites saved? How did repentance save them when salvation is not of works? Did it save them from God annihilating them only?

Yes they were saved according to Jesus.
Matthew,12:41
Repentance isn't a work, BTW.