ewq1938 said:
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So how many times is Jesus supposed to come to the Earth since he ascended? Once in Ad 70 and at least one more time?
Jesus has been here since before the beginning. Interacting with Israel in the Old Testament, He came in the flesh in the New Testament and He will come again ONCE for His Bride on the last day.
I am a partial preterist so we will not see it the same way.
Blessings
Well, I did ask "how many times is Jesus supposed to come to the Earth since he ascended?" not how many times before the acsension. The point is to figure out how many times Jesus leaves heaven to come to the Earth since you believe Rev 19 is about Ad70 and Rev 19 clearly shows Jesus leaving heaven and fighting people on Earth. That would mean you believe t5eh second coming would be Ad 70 and a third coming for the bride. Naturally my point would be there is only one time since the acsension that Jesus will leave heaven and return to the Earth.
I can see how that could be confusing as I also see 1st century Jerusalem and it's Temple in Revelation
Currently I am studying on 2 major greek words concerning "the end<5056>" and "the finish<5055>" to better harmonize Revelation and the rest of the NT, including the Olivet Discourse and Paul's end time discourses. [and why I haven't been on much lately]
This greek word concerning the finish #5055> is interesting
It is not used in Mark,
Matthew [6 verses], Luke [4 verses] John [2 verses] and an astounding
8 verses in Revelation out of the 26 verses used and almost all concerning the witnesses, beast, the abyss 7 Messengers with 7 bowls, etc.
One can look up the word and see where it is used.
G5055 (NKJV)
G5055 matches the Greek τελέω (
teleō), occurs 30 times in
26 verses.
Matthew 10:23 - “Whenever they may be
persecuting ye in this City, be fleeing to another.
For amen I am saying to ye, not no
ye should be
finishing<5055> the cities of Israel till of which may be coming the Son of Man
2 times in John at the crucifixion:
John 19:
28 - After this, Jesus, having percieved that already all has been
finished<5055> that may be being perfected the Writing He is saying "I am thirsting.
30 - Then when Jesus took the sour wine<3690>, He said, “It has been
finished<5055>!” And reclining His head, He gives up Spirit.
This is the last verse Paul uses with that word.
2 Timothy 4:
6 - For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and
the time of my departure is at hand.
7 - I have fought the good fight, I have
finished<5055> the race, I have kept the faith.
Then comes the 8 verses in Revelation:
7th trumpet:
Revelation 10:7 -
but in the days of the sounding of the
seventh Messenger, whenever he is being about to be trumpeting,
is
finished<5055> the mystery of the God, as He evangelizes the of Himself bondservants and the prophets.
The beast out of the abyss killing the 2 witnesses.
Revelation 11:7 -
And whenever they should be finishing<5055> their testimony, the beast ascending out of the abyss, shall be doing battle with them and shall be conquering them and
shall be killing them
Seven Messengers have the 7 bowls:
Revelation 15:1 -
Then I saw another sign in the heaven, great and marvelous: seven Messengers having the seven last blows/stripes<4127>,
that in them is
finished<5055> the
FURY of God.
The 7 Messengers and the Sanctuary:
Revelation 15:8 -
And the Sanctuary is replete<1072> of smoke out of the Glory of the God and from His power,
and no one was able to enter the
Sanctuary till
should be being finished<5055> the seven blows/stripes of the seven Messengers.
The 10 Kings:
Revelation 17:17 -
“For God has put it into their hearts to do His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God shall be being
finished 5055>.
The beast being thrown in the abyss:
Revelation 20:3 -
and he cast him into the abyss, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were
finished<5055>. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
The first resurrection:
Revelation 20:5 -
But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were
finished<5055>.
This is the first
resurrection<386>.
The 1000yrs finished, Satan released:
Revelation 20:7 -
Now when the thousand years have have
finished<5055>, Satan will be released from his prison
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I like to look at where exact forms of hebrew and greek words are used.
I thought this might interest some here.
This exact form for the word "resurrection" used in Reve 20:5 is used in only 6 verses, 4 of those in 1Corinthians 15.
G386 ἀνάστασις
ἀνάστασις — 6x
Revelation 20:5 -
But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished<5055>.
This is the first
resurrection
The Great I AM!
John 11:25 -
Jesus said to her,
“I<1473> AM<1510> the resurrection and the life.
He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
1Corinthians 15:
12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead,
how do some among you say that there is no
resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there is no
resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen.
21 For since by man
came death, by Man also
came the
resurrection of the dead.
42 So also
is the
resurrection of the dead.
The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
.