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definition of evolution and such

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I am not trying to be offensive towards your post, but maybe you should read the whole thread, I don't believe in evolution, actually my friend believes in it. I was merely inquiring on what points from the Bible could I use that would show him otherwise, but he actually opened my eyes to a little something which I posted a couple days ago. If you start from page one you will see that I start to debate with a fellow Christian whether evolution can be used within the realm of God and his word. So I am no longer arguing whether it is true or not with him....I have left it alone and am depending on the word of God to guide me in any discussions with him. He is well aware of the stance I have when it comes to creation so we have decided to stay away from that subject as it tends to cause some serious debates which I refuse to get into with him. Thank you and God Bless.
 
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"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens,
and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of
the stars and even their sizes and distances,... and this knowledge
he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus
offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk
nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based
in Scripture. We should do all that we can to avoid such an
embarrassing situation, lest the unbeliever see only ignorance in
the Christian and laugh to scorn."

-- St. Augustine, "De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim"
 
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Ironically, the site you linked leads off with an edited "quote" from ID'er Michael Denton, who has recently (in his book "Nature's Destiny") acknowledged that common descent is a fact.

[color= dark red]"it is important to emphasize at the outset that the argument presented here is entirely consistent with the basic naturalistic assumption of modern science - that the cosmos is a seamless unity which can be comprehended ultimately in its entirety by human reason and in which all phenomena, including life and evolution and the origin of man, are ultimately explicable in terms of natural processes.

This is an assumption which is entirely opposed to that of the so-called "special creationist school". According to special creationism, living organisms are not natural forms, whose origin and design were built into the laws of nature from the beginning, but rather contingent forms analogous in essence to human artifacts, the result of a series of supernatural acts, involving the suspension of natural law. Contrary to the creationist position, the whole argument presented here is critically dependent on the presumption of the unbroken continuity of the organic world - that is, on the reality of organic evolution and on the presumption that all living organisms on earth are natural forms in the profoundest sense of the word, no less natural than salt crystals, atoms, waterfalls, or galaxies." (page xvii-xviii)."[/color]

It is always sad to see ostensibly Christian websites practicing the kind of deception that we see on the one that was linked.
 
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