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I found an ask a linguist site that stated this
The site you linked to is quite biased religiously, so I will be doing further research of course, but wanted to post what I had already found
The site you linked to is quite biased religiously, so I will be doing further research of course, but wanted to post what I had already found
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Um, John, Yes there is. quite a few different studies have shown that it takes a group to keep a population up.
Two people do Not have enough diversity in their DNA to start an entire population.
Two people do Not have enough diversity in their DNA to start an entire population.
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And is this why you think evolution is bad science? Since when does disagreeing with scriptural interpretation make something bad science?
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Unfortunatly I dont know.
Hopefull one of the more scientifically inclined people can come along and tell us how large of a group is needed to give enough DNA diversity to keep the group going.
I do believe its a rather large number (compared to 2).
Hopefull one of the more scientifically inclined people can come along and tell us how large of a group is needed to give enough DNA diversity to keep the group going.
I do believe its a rather large number (compared to 2).
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But one is now a carnivore. That's a very big difference. And how about if one lot is kept in an environment where it can't get off the ground and over time it loses its wings? Then what? "Oh, but they're still INSECTS!!!" Those different types of Drosophila are no more similar than humans and chimps. You might as well say about humans and chimps that, oh well, they're still PRIMATES! I'll bet you'd be happy to use that argument to show why other mammals are really the same "kind"; the big deal is the creationist demand that despite relative genetic similarity and similarity at the level of enzymes, at the level of skeletal structure, at the level of brain configuration, and other levels, humans get to be separate from any sort of other primate. And they don't demand it on the basis of science either.
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How do we know there was a real Noah, apart from his being mentioned in the Bible? You just have a bunch of different traditions from different early societies. Where is there any external evidence beyond those stories?
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Then they aren't Jews. Thy're Christians, same as any other Christians. You go to any Jewish board where Jews are talking about Jewish matters and see what happens when one of these so-called Messianic Jews shows up spouting about Jesus. Those people are Christians.
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The science isn't wrong, your understanding of it is wrong. The mitochondrial Eve is simply supposed to be the most recent common human ancestor in the matrilineal line. She's thought by the people who did the mtDNA research to be (a) part of a population and (b) not the earliest human female.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A703199
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Follower of Christ
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That is incorrect.
One is born a Jew.
There are Jews that accept their Christ quite frequently.
''He came unto His own (JEWS) and His own recieved Him not."
What happens on websites means nothing.
You go tell a Jew that he wasnt born jewish and see what happens.
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JohnR7
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They are as Jewish as any other Jew. Actually, from a Bible perspective, only about 1% of the people who call themself Jewish are really qualified to call themselves that.
Actually the messianic Jews are the real Jewish people. So when they show up, of course all of those pretenders are going to get really upset. They do not want to be exposed as a fake.
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Follower of Christ
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It would have been so cool to be jewish and then accept Christ .
Just what God wanted to begin with.
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If they're Christians, they're not Jews. They are two completely different religions. I'm not just talking about websites. My father's family is Jewish, and as far as they and their friends were concerned, if someone converted to Christianity, that person was no longer Jewish. You cannot be two religions at once.
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Jewish is considered an ethnicity as well as a religion...so one can in fact be Jewish (ethnically) and Christian (religious beliefs)
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Follower of Christ
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I dont know exactly which planet you from, but here on earth Jews are born jews.
Being Jewish is not necessarily religious at all.
There are a great many jewish atheists.
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Of course, on a religious forum, You would assume that someone is talking about the religion and not the ethnicity.
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Oh, sure it's an ethnicity; you're Jewish of your mother is, regardless of your own religion (and your own race, if your mother was a convert). And as far as Hitler was concerned, of course, Messianic Jews were Jews, as were people who were Jewish through their fathers rather than through their mothers (down to the third or fourth generation or something). But a messianic Jew is Christian just the same as any other Christian. They may be ethnic Jews, but that's the only way they're Jewish. The problem with the messianic Jews I've run across is that they put their Christian message across as if it were a Jewish message, simply because they're ethnically Jewish people giving that message. The message that Jesus is the Jewish messiah is not a Jewish message, and it's dishonest for the people preaching that message to pass it off as Jewish on the basis that it's being preached by ethnic Jews. Once someone has converted to Chrsitianity, that person is Christian.
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