Debate....

[Smilin]

1st April 2003 at 02:28 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #316


Variation within a Kind (MAN-kind)

Nice play on words..

now you must give a specific scientific definition for 'kind' and stick with it.

heads up! we've been down this path several times... research and think carefully before you answer.

Good luck on your quest!
Smilin

 

[Follower of Christ]

2nd April 2003 at 11:25 AM Smilin said this in Post #321



Nice play on words..

now you must give a specific scientific definition for 'kind' and stick with it.

heads up! we've been down this path several times... research and think carefully before you answer.

Good luck on your quest!
Smilin

I know your hedge.

These are all word games.

The fact is there is ONE truth and regardless of ''terms'' such as ''kinds'', ''species'' or whatever else used, they do not change what happened.

I cannot prove my view and I openly admit it.
I know you cannot prove evolution theory as FACT, so you're in the same boat.


You may believe that because "kinds'' has no firm definition, that you have some loophole that proves creation wrong.

I say that is a very foolish stance as your eternity may well hang in the balance.

 

[Smilin]

2nd April 2003 at 12:23 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #322


I know your hedge.

These are all word games.

This is a debate.

2nd April 2003 at 12:23 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #322

The fact is there is ONE truth and regardless of ''terms'' such as ''kinds'', ''species'' or whatever else used, they do not change what happened.

One truth? What is that, and can it be proven? Truth is something I seek.

And I agree with the above statement. Regardless of terms, it doesn't change the fact that species/kinds/whatever continuously change,adapt,(evolve) to their surroundings. Where and how life originated is still unproven and open to speculation.

2nd April 2003 at 12:23 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #322

I cannot prove my view and I openly admit it.
I know you cannot prove evolution theory as FACT, so you're in the same boat.

You cannot prove your own view, yet you know mine can't be proven. I'll have to break open my Theasaurus and look up a polite term for this type of thinking. By the way, don't assume my views without asking or researching my previous threads. I haven't treated you this rudely. I expect if you truly follow Christ that kindness, respect, and good manners is within your grasp.

2nd April 2003 at 12:23 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #322

You may believe that because "kinds'' has no firm definition, that you have some loophole that proves creation wrong.

I say that is a very foolish stance as your eternity may well hang in the balance.

1. Again, don't be rude. I don't state what you believe. Don't state what I believe.
2. I seek truth. My mission here isn't about proving anything.
3. Foolish? What does scripture teach about using that word towards another?
4. Why are you concerned about my eternity?

What is your view of eternity?

 

[JohnR7]

2nd April 2003 at 01:23 PM Smilin said this in Post #323 One truth? What is that, and can it be proven? Truth is something I seek.

One truth is that truth is always true. Truth can never be false and what is false can never be true. It can be proven because it is a dictionary defininition of truth. Even if you were to throw out the dictionary and write a new dictionary, then what is false still can never be true. Or we do not have a language and we can not have a conversation without agreeing on terms and what they mean.

 

[JohnR7]

1st April 2003 at 10:33 AM Smilin said this in Post #311



I'd ask you the same question. Apparantly, you suffer short term memory loss. You made the claim that The Bible hasn't changed in 3500 years. I asked you what happened to the Apocrypha... .

What happened to the Apocrypha? I guess I would have to do a study on it. I was talking about the KJV of the Bible.

The point is, Moses had it all. Nothing has been added, God gave Moses the whole plan. Everyone after Moses just did a more compleat job of explaining things in more detail.

Maybe one way of looking at it is that Moses had the outline for the whole Bible, but the books and chapters still needed to be written according to the outline or pattern given to Moses.

One thing you see over and over again: It is written, it is written, it is written. Jesus came to fulfill what had already been written about Him.

A good part of the book of Ezekiel (about 8 chapters) talks about a temple in Jerusalem that has not even been built yet. It will be built during the 1000 year reign of Christ.

 

[Smilin]

2nd April 2003 at 02:30 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #325



What happened to the Apocrypha? I guess I would have to do a study on it. I was talking about the KJV of the Bible.

Exactly my point...
The Apocrypha (contained in earlier versions of the Bible) is missing from the KJV...

Why?

 

[Smilin]

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