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"Days of Lot" = "Abomination that makes Desolate"

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Read Luke 17:28-33 - verses that reference the "days of Lot" to Christ's second coming.

The "days of Lot" reference is in Luke 17... but not in the Matthew or Mark parallels.

Note the very next verse after the first "days of Lot" verses [Luke 17:28-29] and after
the reference of the "days of Lot" to the return of Christ [Luke 17:30]... the next
verse is Luke 17:31 which matches the same verses in Matthew 24:17 and Mark 13:15...
[THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT !!] Then Luke 17:32 verifies Christ is still talking about the
"days of Lot" analogy.

Luke 17 refers to the "days of Lot" but not the "abomination that makes desolate"...
while Matthew 24 and Mark 13 refer to the "abomination that makes desolate" [see
the verses that proceed Matthew 24:17 and Mark 13:15] but not the "days of Lot"....

DO YOU SEE IT ??!!

God has substituted the "days of Lot" in Luke 17... to identify the "abomination that
makes desolate" in Matthew 24 and Mark 13.

Wow... even the differences in the gospels are pieces of the puzzle !!!


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Not sure what you are trying to understand

The abomination of desolation standing on the top of temple mount

This thing is already there today .... it is the Muslim Dome of the Rock

At the time of the end the little horn of Daniel's visions will come and grandstand in this Muslim mosque [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 11:41; Matthew 24:15-16; 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12]
 
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Read Luke 17:28-33 - verses that reference the "days of Lot" to Christ's second coming.

The "days of Lot" reference is in Luke 17... but not in the Matthew or Mark parallels.

Note the very next verse after the first "days of Lot" verses [Luke 17:28-29] and after
the reference of the "days of Lot" to the return of Christ [Luke 17:30]... the next
verse is Luke 17:31 which matches the same verses in Matthew 24:17 and Mark 13:15...
[THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT !!] Then Luke 17:32 verifies Christ is still talking about the
"days of Lot" analogy.

Luke 17 refers to the "days of Lot" but not the "abomination that makes desolate"...
while Matthew 24 and Mark 13 refer to the "abomination that makes desolate" [see
the verses that proceed Matthew 24:17 and Mark 13:15] but not the "days of Lot"....

DO YOU SEE IT ??!!

God has substituted the "days of Lot" in Luke 17... to identify the "abomination that
makes desolate" in Matthew 24 and Mark 13.

Wow... even the differences in the gospels are pieces of the puzzle !!!


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Do you mean because of the gay marraige thing? Gays are ruling like they did in Lot's day? Do you think the mosque is not the abomination that makes desolate but that the supreme court is ruling in favor of evil?
 
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God has already given me understanding...
I posted this topic as a pearl of great price...
and like any gift... you can take it or leave it.



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I don't understand what you are saying, other than it is a clue. What does the clue tell us?
 
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Read Luke 17:28-33 - verses that reference the "days of Lot" to Christ's second coming.

The "days of Lot" reference is in Luke 17... but not in the Matthew or Mark parallels.

Note the very next verse after the first "days of Lot" verses [Luke 17:28-29] and after
the reference of the "days of Lot" to the return of Christ [Luke 17:30]... the next
verse is Luke 17:31 which matches the same verses in Matthew 24:17 and Mark 13:15...
[THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT !!] Then Luke 17:32 verifies Christ is still talking about the
"days of Lot" analogy.

Luke 17 refers to the "days of Lot" but not the "abomination that makes desolate"...
while Matthew 24 and Mark 13 refer to the "abomination that makes desolate" [see
the verses that proceed Matthew 24:17 and Mark 13:15] but not the "days of Lot"....

DO YOU SEE IT ??!!

God has substituted the "days of Lot" in Luke 17... to identify the "abomination that
makes desolate" in Matthew 24 and Mark 13.

Wow... even the differences in the gospels are pieces of the puzzle !!!


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AlasBabylon, I would like some clarity please - what are you concluding is the abomination that makes desolate - in simple straight forward language?
 
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I understand that the days of Lot reference the coming destruction, just as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. I understand that the world is behaving similarly evil as in the days of Lot. I understand the end is coming, and that it is time to flee into the mountains, because the cities will be destroyed. What I don't understand is how it relates to the abomination that makes desolate. I see that the gospels are pointing it out just as you've shown us, but all I can think is that when the supreme court rules against God in this case of gay marraige(and several others), then it is a sign that the end is nearer. If in the days of Lot the people in those cities did'nt obey God, and did what He called abomination, then He destroyed the city and made it desolate. Also, gay marraige does not allow for fruitful multiplication and so would cause desolation in that there would be no more procreation. Am I anywhere near your revelation? Or are you simply pointing out that searching the gospel for their differences to find more clues? I remember something about one gospel said they were leaving a city while another said they were entering it (I forget the city name), but it was discovered that there were twin cities with the same name, so that they were entering one and leaving the other. I feel like Jack Skellington, "But what does it mean?"
 
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I just read it again and thought "Oh! God was waiting for Lot to leave the city...When Lot and his family were safely away it was destroyed. Is God waiting for us to leave? Self-exiled Christians has been a running theme in my mind for a while. In fact, the night of Obama's first election, I cried and packed a survival bag. I knew the end was coming and I was trying to find a cave to hide in, but God told me to wait, but be prepared. Is it time? I think we have 2 months based on Elul 29. Do you have a place prepared?
 
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AlasBabylon, I would like some clarity please - what are you concluding is the abomination that makes desolate - in simple straight forward language?


First of all... another poster mentioned God's temple.

In the OT, God's throne was the Ark of the Covenant within a physical building,
the temple in Jerusalem. Because of Israel's sins [even allowing sodomites in the
temple] God decreed Babylon's total destruction of Jerusalem and the temple
and Israel's captivity [removing Israelites from the Holy Land.]

In the NT, Jesus Christ is God incarnate, God's Temple made without hands.
Christ is the Chief Cornerstone of a living temple made up of Christian stones.
The NT says our bodies are the temple of God, the Holy Spirit, and that is
why the NT warns us not to pervert and desecrate our temple bodies
[as ancient Israel had desecrated the ancient temple.]

Douggg want to cut to the chase... so I will.

The "abomination that makes desolate" is the "days of Lot"... and the USSC just
last month ruled to legalize the supreme blasphemy... sodomite marriage... which
not only mocks Christ's divine marriage to God's people, Christian Israel, God's living
stones in God's temple made without hands... but also blasphemes the Holy Spirit
who is supposed to indwell within our temple bodies. This is the unpardonable sin
against the Holy Spirit... which will bring down God's Judgment... just like in the
days of Lot.


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First of all... another poster mentioned God's temple.

In the OT, God's throne was the Ark of the Covenant within a physical building,
the temple in Jerusalem. Because of Israel's sins [even allowing sodomites in the
temple] God decreed Babylon's total destruction of Jerusalem and the temple
and Israel's captivity [removing Israelites from the Holy Land.]

In the NT, Jesus Christ is God incarnate, God's Temple made without hands.
Christ is the Chief Cornerstone of a living temple made up of Christian stones.
The NT says our bodies are the temple of God, the Holy Spirit, and that is
why the NT warns us not to pervert and desecrate our temple bodies
[as ancient Israel had desecrated the ancient temple.]

Douggg want to cut to the chase... so I will.

The "abomination that makes desolate" is the "days of Lot"... and the USSC just
last month ruled to legalize the supreme blasphemy... sodomite marriage... which
not only mocks Christ's divine marriage to God's people, Christian Israel, God's living
stones in God's temple made without hands... but also blasphemes the Holy Spirit
who is supposed to indwell within our temple bodies. This is the unpardonable sin
against the Holy Spirit... which will bring down God's Judgment... just like in the
days of Lot.


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Then why would Jesus tell them in Judaea to flee? The church is worldwide. imo, it would make more sense if the abomination of desolation is something that will be set up in a physical temple in Jerusalem.

Matthew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
 
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Is it time? I think we have 2 months ?


If the June 26 USSC decision was the last straw...
then we have [had] 45 days.

The first nation to legalize sodomite marriage
was the Netherlands April 2001. Ironic that
later in 2001... New York City was hit twice.
NYC was first called New Amsterdam because
the Dutch founded it.


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Then why would Jesus tell them in Judaea to flee? The church is worldwide. imo, it would make more sense if the abomination of desolation is something that will be set up in a physical temple in Jerusalem.


In both the OT and NT God tells His people to flee Babylon...
both times Babylon is coming under the Judgment of God.

In the OT, the fleeing was literal... Babylon was a regional power.
In the NT, Babylon rules the entire planet.

As I said... this topic is a gift... a pearl of great price.. but if you
would rather believe what seems right to you.... go ahead.


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In both the OT and NT God tells His people to flee Babylon...
both times Babylon is coming under the Judgment of God.

In the OT, the fleeing was literal... Babylon was a regional power.
In the NT, Babylon rules the entire planet.


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But Judaea is a specific region of Israel - where Jerusalem is located. imo, it would make more sense that the Abomination of Desolation take place in that region of Israel - specifically Jerusalem.
 
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Let me give you an example of fleeing global Babylon.

In the OT God [via Moses] led the children of Israel from Egypt into the wilderness towards the promise land.

We have all read and know that OT story. One of the main object lessons gained from that passion play is the
fact that it was easier to physically remove the Israelites from bondage in Egypt... than to remove Egypt that
still ruled and held captive Israel's heart. That is why God made the Israelites wander 40 years in the wilderness
until a new generation was born and raised who never knew Egypt and had God in their heart.

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Let me give you an example of fleeing global Babylon.

In the OT God [via Moses] led the children of Israel from Egypt into the wilderness towards the promise land.

We have all read and know that OT story. One of the main object lessons gained from that passion play is the
fact that it was easier to physically remove the Israelites from bondage in Egypt... than to remove Egypt that
still ruled and held captive Israel's heart. That is why God made the Israelites wander 40 years in the wilderness
until a new generation was born and raised who never knew Egypt and had God in their heart.

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come out of her, Babylon - is from the text in Revelation 18. Something different from the Abomination of Desolation standing in a holy place - in Matthew 24, which them in Judaea are told to flee to the mountains.
 
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But Judaea is a specific region of Israel - where Jerusalem is located. imo, it would make more sense that the Abomination of Desolation take place in that region of Israel - specifically Jerusalem.
God said that He would keep Judah as His people. If we are fellow heirs, spiritual Jerusalem, then why not spiritual Judah. The OT was filled with physical and literal things, the NT preaches spirituality. Also, the abomination is a mosque, right? How can we look at it spiritually? The day Obama declares Sharia Law? The process has already begun. When the world chooses to follow and practice abominations rather than follow God, but not only are they choosing to follow "their own way" but they are blaspheming God and persecuting His followers. All over the world. They are spiritually practicing everything the physical dome represents. It is physical, mental and spiritual. Body, mind and spirit. Your eyes need to see the dome, your mind needs to think about their actions, and your spirit needs to lament for the abomination that causes desolation.
 
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But Judaea is a specific region of Israel - where Jerusalem is located. imo, it would make more sense that the Abomination of Desolation take place in that region of Israel - specifically Jerusalem.


As I told you on one of your topics... I think outside the boxes.

As long as you are comfortable and prefer to be in that specific box...
that antichrist jews are going to rebuild another temple complete with
animals sacrifices and a man called the antichrist will come along to
desecrate that temple... as long as you worship in that physical temple...
totally devoid of Christ... Herod's temple rebuilt... you will never understand.


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God said that He would keep Judah as His people. If we are fellow heirs, spiritual Jerusalem, then why not spiritual Judah. The OT was filled with physical and literal things, the NT preaches spirituality.
Well if you are going to use that premise - Jesus in Matthew 24 referred to what the prophet Daniel said in the OT. So it is a physical and literal thing - if we adhere to your standard and what Jesus referred to what is in Daniel 12 written out - something that will be set up, a physical thing.

Daneil 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

this is what it will be....

Revelation 13:
4 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

That's why Jesus told them to flee to the mountains.... when they see that image set up to be worshiped.
 
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