Darwin - Half Right

[HitchSlap]

Interesting that the so-called Bronze Age is considered a prehistoric era.

Prehistoric means it came before writing.

Yet one of the things Adam was able to do in his first day of existence is not only walk and talk and tend the Garden ... but write.

And years and years later, came the metallurgists.

Genesis 4:22a And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron:

This means that writing came BEFORE the Bronze Age.

Meaning the Bronze Age is a joke.

Another mislabel that might fool college students, but not those who know their Bible.

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[Ophiolite]

Interesting that the so-called Bronze Age is considered a prehistoric era.

Prehistoric means it came before writing.

Yet one of the things Adam was able to do in his first day of existence is not only walk and talk and tend the Garden ... but write.

And years and years later, came the metallurgists.

Genesis 4:22a And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron:

This means that writing came BEFORE the Bronze Age.

Meaning the Bronze Age is a joke.

Another mislabel that might fool college students, but not those who know their Bible.

Oh, dear. I've been away from the forum for several months. I'd quite forgotten how much I didn't miss it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, dear. I've been away from the forum for several months. I'd quite forgotten how much I didn't miss it.

Well I hope you stay.

 

[dlamberth]

Yet one of the things Adam was able to do in his first day of existence is not only walk and talk and tend the Garden ... but write.

Do you mean something like this....

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you mean something like this....

More like this:

Genesis 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 ¶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 ¶ And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 ¶ And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 ¶ And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you mean something like this....

Cave men came much later, when people were ostracized or persecuted for whatever reason and made their homes in caves.

Judges 6:2 And the hand of Midian prevailed against Israel: and because of the Midianites the children of Israel made them the dens which are in the mountains, and caves, and strong holds.

Hebrews 11:38 ( Of whom the world was not worthy: ) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.

 

[dlamberth]

More like this:

Genesis 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 ¶ And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 ¶ And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 ¶ And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 ¶ And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 ¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Just to be clear, are you saying that Adam wrote the Genesis Creation account?

 

[AV1611VET]

Just to be clear, are you saying that Adam wrote the Genesis Creation account?

Yup -- in Jacobean English.

 

[sjastro]

Yup -- in Jacobean English.

What a loadeth of tush tush.

 

[AV1611VET]

What a loadeth of tush tush.

Hint: You only put -est and -eth endings on verbs.

 

[Oneiric1975]

Yup -- in Jacobean English.

...but the Jacobean English that the KJV was written in was written in Jacobean English in the 1600's based on Greek and Hebrew texts.

We know this because we know where the KJV came from.

So why didn't the "Secretaries" who translated the KJV at the behest of King James not go with the originals in their own language? Were these originals impossible to find? How do we know that passing from English-->Greek and Hebrew-->English didn't impart some imperfections? Are we sure they got it back to the original UNSEEN Jacobean English versions?

 

[AV1611VET]

So why didn't the "Secretaries" who translated the KJV at the behest of King James not go with the originals in their own language?

I think you're getting the "originals" mixed up with the "autographs."

The "originals" are copies of the autographs.

The autographs were the source documents, written in the secretaries' own handwriting.

Adam wrote Genesis 1 in Jacobean English, then Moses redacted it with his Hebrew.

 

[sjastro]

Hint: You only put -est and -eth endings on verbs.

If 't be true Adam wroteth the Bible in Jacobean English pray pardon me how Indo-European languages evolv'd from Jacobean English since Adam wast the first sir acc'rding to thee.

 

[Oneiric1975]

I think you're getting the "originals" mixed up with the "autographs."

The "originals" are copies of the autographs.

The autographs were the source documents, written in the secretaries' own handwriting.

Adam wrote Genesis 1 in Jacobean English, then Moses redacted it with his Hebrew.

How do you know this? I'm going to level with you and say it sounds absurd and, of course, there is no evidence for this in the Bible. So how do YOU come to know this?

 

[AV1611VET]

If 't be true Adam wroteth the Bible in Jacobean English pray pardon me how Indo-European languages evolv'd from Jacobean English since Adam wast the first sir acc'rding to thee.

Jacobean English disappeared off the face of the earth at the tower of Babel.

It then made a slow comeback, culminating in the writing of the AV1611 King James Bible.

Then it disappeared again, and we won't hear it until we get to Heaven.

And yes, this is just my speculation.

 

[AV1611VET]

How do you know this? I'm going to level with you and say it sounds absurd and, of course, there is no evidence for this in the Bible. So how do YOU come to know this?

I base it on this passage:

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

IF those books are the 66 books of the King James Bible, then there's your answer.

I believe the Bible was written in Heaven before It was written on Earth; and It had to be written in some language.

That language, in my opinion, is Jacobean English.

 

[sjastro]

Jacobean English disappeared off the face of the earth at the tower of Babel.

It then made a slow comeback, culminating in the writing of the AV1611 King James Bible.

Then it disappeared again, and we won't hear it until we get to Heaven.

And yes, this is just my speculation.

âðollan êower âsmêagan Englisc ?

 

[AV1611VET]

âðollan êower âsmêagan Englisc ?

There's something missing on your chart: the Tower of Babel.

 

[sjastro]

There's something missing on your chart: the Tower of Babel.

Why don't you take a closer look at the diagram and note it is constructed on the basis of evidence.
Since you think the Tower of Babel should be included show us the evidence Jacobean English is the progenitor of not only modern English but all languages such as Chinese.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why don't you take a closer look at the diagram and note it is constructed on the basis of evidence.
Since you think the Tower of Babel should be included show us the evidence Jacobean English is the progenitor of not only modern English but all languages such as Chinese.

Jacobean English made a slow comeback AFTER the Tower of Babel incident, culminating in the writing of the 1611 KJB.

Your chart shows how that happened, starting in 200 BC (assuming your chart is accurate, which I will).

It's a nice chart and all, but it doesn't answer this question:

What was that language mentioned here?

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.