CSA Flag varient to stay in Mississippi

[dogs4thewin]

49 or 56?

49

 

[Aryeh Jay]

49

Sorry, just trying to throw some humor into this thread. Obama said there were 57 once.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The flag of Hawaii. We have fought two bloody wars with Great Britain, yet the symbol of the bloody regime of King George III still adorns a state flag. Where is the outrage?

You'll have to wait until it's been discovered that a convicted murderer (preferably a white guy) posted a picture of himself with that flag on his facebook page, then you'll have to backing you need to get the flag removed from society lol.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Good. And good for Mississippi for standing up to these idiots.

[QUOTE="HannahT]I don't feel the confederate flag should be part of a state flag. That should be common sense, and should have drawed on people years ago. To me - its a respect thing. Deal with your heritage personally. You represent the entire state's population afterall

To be honest with you, I'm really starting to get tired of the blacks' constant whining. They don't own the country, they don't own our history, and, last time I checked, they're still in the minority.[/QUOTE]
Minority yes, but there is still a large population of blacks in that state. Look at it from their eyes. A flag created by people long ago who were trying to maintain the freedom to expanded slavery and further protect the institution. A flag that still had a racist history toward people of dark skin even after the war. As Jews and gays, or any group the Nazis hurt, have a good reason to despise the Nazi flag and not want it to fly on government buildings, blacks also have a justified reason when it comes to the CSA flag. Btw, do you ever think about what black people on this site would think about your avatar picture?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

As Jews and gays, or any group the Nazis hurt, have a good reason to despise the Nazi flag and not want it to fly on government buildings, blacks also have a justified reason when it comes to the CSA flag.

That is building one (Bldg.1) on the former US Navy Base of Treasure Island, San Francisco, CA. I worked there, as a Jew, with Nazi flags. Ironic.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Good. And good for Mississippi for standing up to these idiots.

[QUOTE="HannahT]I don't feel the confederate flag should be part of a state flag. That should be common sense, and should have drawed on people years ago. To me - its a respect thing. Deal with your heritage personally. You represent the entire state's population afterall

I don't believe their "point of view" supersedes my history or my right to celebrate our history and our culture.[/QUOTE]

What is there about the Confederacy to celebrate?

Or are you referring just to Southern culture?

While I have no problem with southerners celebrating their culture, some of them mix it up with idolizing the CSA. Taking one of the worst things about Southern past and making into something to be proud of.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

That is building one (Bldg.1) on the former US Navy Base of Treasure Island, San Francisco, CA. I worked there, as a Jew, with Nazi flags. Ironic.

2nd picture doesn't look like 1989. Those cars look far older then that year.

 

[SummerMadness]

While I have no problem with southerners celebrating their culture, some of them mix it up with idolizing the CSA. Taking one of the worst things about Southern past and making into something to be proud of.

And it always seems to exclude African Americans from celebrating that Southern pride. If it's simply regional, Southern heritage should not have a color, but apparently it does.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

2nd picture doesn't look like 1989. Those cars look far older then that year.

It was for a movie, Indiana Jones and the final Crusade. It played the Berlin airport circa 1936. Still, we were inside during filming.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

It was for a movie, Indiana Jones and the final Crusade. It played the Berlin airport circa 1936. Still, we were inside during filming.

Ah, ok thanks.

Now that makes sense.

 

[SummerMadness]

It was for a movie, Indiana Jones and the final Crusade. It played the Berlin airport circa 1936. Still, we were inside during filming.

Are you a time traveler? I think you traveled back in time with a camera from 1989 and took that picture, it's a timestamp, right?!

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Are you a time traveler? I think you traveled back in time with a camera from 1989 and took that picture, it's a timestamp, right?!

The picture is from the internet, but I was there when they shot the scene.

 

[SummerMadness]

The picture is from the internet, but I was there when they shot the scene.

There you go getting my hopes up, I was hoping to ask you about the flux capacitor.

 

[Tallguy88]

What is there about the Confederacy to celebrate?

Or are you referring just to Southern culture?

While I have no problem with southerners celebrating their culture, some of them mix it up with idolizing the CSA. Taking one of the worst things about Southern past and making into something to be proud of.

In my case, I had family that fought for the CSA. So I honor my ancestors. We still decorate the graves of CSA vets, too. We have over a hundred of them in the local cemetary.

 

[South Bound]

I don't believe their "point of view" supersedes my history or my right to celebrate our history and our culture.

What is there about the Confederacy to celebrate?[/quote]

Patriotism, the love of liberty, of family, of neighbor.

While I have no problem with southerners celebrating their culture, some of them mix it up with idolizing the CSA. Taking one of the worst things about Southern past and making into something to be proud of.

Who cares what you think? If you don't like it, then go live somewhere else.

To be honest with you, I'm really starting to get tired of the blacks' constant whining. They don't own the country, they don't own our history, and, last time I checked, they're still in the minority.

Minority yes, but there is still a large population of blacks in that state.[/quote]

If Mississippi is so bad, then let them leave (just don't send them to Alabama).

Look at it from their eyes.

No. I'm tired of bending over backward for them. How about they stop pretending they're the center of the universe and try looking at it from our eyes for once.

A flag created by people long ago who were trying to maintain freedom. A flag that still had a racist history toward people of dark skin even after the war.

Wow. They must really hate the American flag, then. And yet, I don't see you whining to have that taken down.

As Jews and gays, or any group the Nazis hurt, have a good reason to despise the Nazi flag and not want it to fly on government buildings, blacks also have a justified reason when it comes to the CSA flag.

If blacks are really so stupid that they think the Confederate flag is analogous to the Nazi flag, then they're too stupid for me to take their opinion seriously.

Btw, do you ever think about what black people on this site would think about your avatar picture?

No, nor would I care if I did.

 

[SummerMadness]

In my case, I had family that fought for the CSA. So I honor my ancestors. We still decorate the graves of CSA vets, too. We have over a hundred of them in the local cemetary.

Does honoring your ancestors necessitate celebrating the Confederacy?

 

[AmericanChristian91]

You said "South Bound",



"If blacks are really so stupid that they think the Confederate flag is analogous to the Nazi flag, then they're too stupid for me to take their opinion seriously."

But there is a similarity. Both the Nazi's and the CSA founding was heavily influenced by racism. Both being enemies of the USA helps as well.

I'm not saying the sins of the CSA are on the same level of the Nazi's, but it makes sense to see some common ground between both.

And why are you defending the CSA?

BTW South Bound, you seem to have misquoted me on certain lines in your last post.

 

[Tallguy88]

Does honoring your ancestors necessitate celebrating the Confederacy?

To a point. Just as I celebrate the USA that my grandpa bled for in Korea, or my uncles did in WW2.

I had union ancestors too. My state was very bitterly divided during the Civil War, and my part of the state was a Union stronghold. But my Union ancestors aren't constantly disparaged, so I don't have to defend them as often as my CSA ancestors. I'm not worried someone is going to deface the Union graves or the other war memorials. But Confederate graves and monuments have been defaced and vandalized. So it gets a strong reaction from me sometimes.

 

[South Bound]

In my case, I had family that fought for the CSA. So I honor my ancestors. We still decorate the graves of CSA vets, too. We have over a hundred of them in the local cemetary.

Same here. My maternal grandmother was a Lee and, as such, we are descended from the Lees of Virginia.

Likewise, my paternal grandfather's grandfather was a Confederate Sgt. My grandfather's farm was just a mile or so through the woods from a site that was a major Confederate foundry and armory, which was later turned into a living history museum and state park. It was a great place to be a kid. We found all sorts of artifacts there.

My maternal great-great grandfather owned a plantation on which they raised sugarcane, cotton, and horses. He had many slaves. I grew up on the remnants of a second plantation he owned, which also grew sugarcane, and was located just west of Birmingham.

 

[South Bound]

You said "South Bound",



"If blacks are really so stupid that they think the Confederate flag is analogous to the Nazi flag, then they're too stupid for me to take their opinion seriously."

But there is a similarity. Both the Nazi's and the CSA founding was heavily influenced by racism.

Your ignorance is duly noted.

And why are you defending the CSA?

Because they were right.

There right when hell freezes over.

What's there?

How is promoting racism/slavery ok, and turning against ones nation because they dislikes the actions of the President and his Republican party, right?

I never said anything about "racism/slavery".

As for wanting to leave the Union, you realize that our own Declaration of Independence begins by acknowledging that people have that right, right? And you realize the Lee Declaration (who am I kidding? We all know you have no clue what the Lee Declaration is) declares states to be "sovereign and independent", right?