Creationists: Explain how life was created.

[Colter]

Note: Not looking for Bible quotes. I'm well aware what it says in Genesis.

What I want is an explanation beyond what is written in Genesis (or any other religious text) that specifically explains how it is possible to create life forms from scratch. Explain how a creator, supernatural or otherwise, would have created fully-formed life forms on Earth.

Describe the mechanisms, energies, forces, processes, etcs, that are involved in bringing fully-formed organisms into existence.

The creation of life would be carried out by beings that are vastly more intelligent than we are utilizing "mechanisms, energies, forces, processes" way above our current knowledge.


But its safe to say that the creation of life was similar to the creation of AI, mind creating mind. The "spark of life" at conception, which science has now documented, would come from the Living God.


A Flash of Light Occurs at Moment of Conception

 

[Colter]

Why not? Even a working hypothesis would be a start.

OK, Celestial beings came to earth after it reached a stage where it could support life. They planted the original primitive life forms in the briny seas of the shifting continental land masses. They remained here and fostered evolution. As mind evolved it was responsive to the Cosmic Mind, like a cell phone finds a signal by design. The evolution of mind has been stimulated in part by the gravity of spirit.


A "working hypothesis" The Life Carriers: Paper 36, The Urantia Book

 

[pitabread]

I need not know how God created everything.

Do you think that if creationists want to replace a body of knowledge about how species formed, they should have at least an equal body of knowledge?

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you think that if creationists want to replace a body of knowledge about how species formed, they should have at least an equal body of knowledge?

No.

 

[Aman777]

Note: Not looking for Bible quotes. I'm well aware what it says in Genesis.

We shall see....

What I want is an explanation beyond what is written in Genesis (or any other religious text) that specifically explains how it is possible to create life forms from scratch. Explain how a creator, supernatural or otherwise, would have created fully-formed life forms on Earth.

Jesus is the physical Creator of Adam. In the Hebrew, He shaped or molded the air, dust and water God the Trinity had created before the first Day, Gen 1:1-2 like a Potter molds clay. He then breathed or gave the breath of life to Adam. Only God has this ability.

Describe the mechanisms, energies, forces, processes, etcs, that are involved in bringing fully-formed organisms into existence.

God the Trinity left all the physical work to Lord God/Jesus. God "creates" by speaking and God the Son actually does the physical forming but the Son also speaks/creates temporary beings into physical form. This is supported by the words of Jesus to the Centurion:

Mat 8:8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.

Jesus knew that He and God the Trinity spoke the worlds into being, Psa 33:6 so He said:

Mat 8:10 ¶ When Jesus heard it, He marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

The servant was healed that very hour. Mat 8:13 Humankind also speaks things into being. No war has ever happened until it was spoken by men, first. Amen?

Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

 

[pitabread]

No.

Then why should we believe the creationist way of thinking? You're effectively advocating ignorance in place of knowledge. That seems really dumb.

 

[pitabread]

He then breathed or gave the breath of life to Adam. Only God has this ability.

So? I'm looking for an explanation as to how it works.

 

[pitabread]

it's not a question that we need answered

But it's a question you should need answered. That you guys not only don't have an explanation (even a working model), but are actively resisting even asking the question is the problem. You're advocating for ignorance.

At which point does replacing a body of knowledge with lack of knowledge make sense to you?

 

[AV1611VET]

You're effectively advocating ignorance in place of knowledge.

No, I'm not.

I'm saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

You have a pound of evolution, and you want us to present a pound of creationism to counter it.

It doesn't work that way.

God said it -- that settles it.

Translation: I don't need a pound of bologna, when I have an ounce of manna.

 

[AV1611VET]

So? I'm looking for an explanation as to how it works.

Obedience.

 

[AV1611VET]

But it's a question you should need answered.

Why? I don't have 666 on my forehead, do I?

And when Satan gives academia that answer, they will line up to take the Mark and go after Christians.

I see you as trying to generate a thirst for that answer.

And that tells me that the Rapture is just that much closer.

 

[pitabread]

And when Satan gives academia that answer, they will line up to take the Mark and go after Christians.

I see you as trying to generate a thirst for that answer.

And that tells me that the Rapture is just that much closer.

If just going to go off the deep end in claims of conspiratorial/Satanic nonsense, then that really makes this discussion moot.

Especially since you're still in no hurry to give up the benefits of science and academia. There is much hypocrisy in your posts.

 

[AV1611VET]

If just going to go off the deep end in claims of conspiratorial/Satanic nonsense, then that really makes this discussion moot.

Especially since you're still in no hurry to give up the benefits of science and academia. There is much hypocrisy in the creationist side.

I'll be honest with you, pitabread.

I see Satan as sending you out to badger us with this nonsense, in order to generate a thirst for that particular factoid.

That way, when he shows up on the scene, academians will want that question answered.

And he will give it to them too.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And if that gets me moderated, so be it.

 

[pitabread]

I see Satan as sending you out to badger us with this nonsense, in order to generate a thirst for that particular factoid.

And I see this as a sad rationalization on your part to avoid having to ask the difficult questions.

My take-away from this thread thus far has been that for creationists, ignorance is bliss.

 

[Brightmoon]

And I see this as a sad rationalization on your part to avoid having to ask the difficult questions.

My take-away from this thread thus far has been that for creationists, ignorance is bliss.

. You forgot Ignorance is Strength too

 

[AV1611VET]

My take-away from this thread thus far has been that for creationists, ignorance is bliss.

You don't know either; so are you enjoying the bliss as well?

 

[Brightmoon]

You don't know either; so are you enjoying the bliss as well?

Pita knows how species are formed . you’re the one who doesn’t

 

[pitabread]

You don't know either; so are you enjoying the bliss as well?

Biological evolution explains how species form.

In some cases, scientists are even able to recreate ancestral genomes and recreate the mutational steps by which specific genes/proteins/etc formed. It's fascinating stuff.

 

[Brightmoon]

Biological evolution explains how species form.

In some cases, scientists are even able to recreate ancestral genomes and recreate the mutational steps by which specific genes/proteins/etc formed. It's fascinating stuff.

. I remember being fascinated when they figured out the genetic switch of how 6 legged insects formed from multi legged Arthropoda about 20 years ago

 

[AV1611VET]

Biological evolution explains how species form.

I'm [somewhat] familiar with how species FORM.

In fact, as I understand it, a new species of bacteria FORMS every nine hours; and a new species of fruit fly every twenty-four.

Or something like that.

But that's not what you want, is it?

Explain how a creator, supernatural or otherwise, would have created fully-formed life forms on Earth.