Creationists: Explain how life was created.

[mmksparbud]

Here's the problem though: creationists that reject biological evolution as an explanation for origin of species and want to replace it with "Goddidit" are effectively asking to replace knowledge with lack of knowledge.

How is that supposed to work?

Here's the problem though---evolutionists that reject the power of God as an explanation for life----want to replace that knowledge with unproveable, uncreatable theories that add up to nothing. That doesn't work for us--only for you.

 

[mmksparbud]

It's the other way around.

Not from our point of view.

 

[AV1611VET]

For what God does, that only He knows how---God did it is explanation enough!! Only explanation needed!

Amen!

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

 

[pitabread]

Here's the problem though---evolutionists that reject the power of God as an explanation for life

It's not rejecting God though. This isn't about atheism vs theism.

----want to replace that knowledge with unproveable, uncreatable theories that add up to nothing.

The Theory of Evolution provides a testable explanation for how species evolved that has become integral in modern biology. There are even real-world applications derived from it. It's a lot more than "nothing".

 

[pitabread]

Not from our point of view.

That's the other problem.

 

[mmksparbud]

It's not rejecting God though. This isn't about atheism vs theism.



The Theory of Evolution provides a testable explanation for how species evolved that has become integral in modern biology. There are even real-world applications derived from it. It's a lot more than "nothing".

I said you reject the POWER of God.--and replace it with nothing.

 

[pitabread]

I said you reject the POWER of God.--and replace it with nothing.

Nobody is rejecting the power of God, though.

What I'm trying to do is get creationists to explain how life forms can be created from scratch. It's been like pulling teeth with you guys.

 

[Lost4words]

Note: Not looking for Bible quotes. I'm well aware what it says in Genesis.

What I want is an explanation beyond what is written in Genesis (or any other religious text) that specifically explains how it is possible to create life forms from scratch. Explain how a creator, supernatural or otherwise, would have created fully-formed life forms on Earth.

Describe the mechanisms, energies, forces, processes, etcs, that are involved in bringing fully-formed organisms into existence.

God's word is beyond our comprehension.

 

[pitabread]

God's word is beyond our comprehension.

We're talking about what is in nature though (biological organisms). Why would learning how they were created be "beyond our comprehension"? It sounds like giving up without even trying.

 

[mark kennedy]

Depends on the problem! For what needs a question asked, I ask---for what doesn't, I don't! For what God does, that only He knows how---God did it is explanation enough!! Only explanation needed!

The Scriptures are clear that we have sufficient natural revelation to conclude God's divine attributes and eternal nature (Romans 1:18-20) in Christ was life and that life is the light of men (John 1:9). It should not suprise us that such a fundamental doctrine would be a key target of worldly scepticism. Demands to explain God's omnipotent power exercised at creation are as futile as they are unnesacary. God is self existing and self evident, as many times as I've engaged atheists and agnostics I have yet to ask me what God is like. They already know but we as sinners suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

 

[Lost4words]

We're talking about what is in nature though (biological organisms). Why would learning how they were created be "beyond our comprehension"? It sounds like giving up without even trying.

Faith. Faith in God as our creator.

 

[AV1611VET]

What I'm trying to do is get creationists to explain how life forms can be created from scratch. It's been like pulling teeth with you guys.

When the time comes, the information will be forthcoming.

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Until then, I guess you're just going to have to wait.

Better yet, join us and you won't give a carp.

 

[mmksparbud]

Nobody is rejecting the power of God, though.

What I'm trying to do is get creationists to explain how life forms can be created from scratch. It's been like pulling teeth with you guys.

Good grief---because you've been told repeatedly---it's not a question that we need answered--it's a question only you want answered--for us---God did it is all we need to know. For us it is not a scientific question, like how is a diamond formed. That takes a solid piece of matter and you wonder how it got that way, you can examine it under microscopes and such and try to replicate it with materials on hand that seem to be made of the same things---The instant of life can't be held in the hand and examined. We can't take the breath of God and place it under a microscope.

 

[pitabread]

Faith. Faith in God as our creator.

Does faith prevent one from asking how? Does faith require one not seek knowledge?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does faith prevent one from asking how? Does faith require one not seek knowledge?

Has it occurred to you He might not want us to know the answer?

Suppose the answer is:

"I created life by combining XYZ elements, then ran a current of N volts through it."

Knowing what people would do with that knowledge, He chooses not to tell us.

 

[pitabread]

Has it occurred to you He might not want us to know the answer?

That's dumb.

And quite frankly it seems like just another way to rationalize not seeking knowledge.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's dumb.

And quite frankly it seems like just another way to rationalize not seeking knowledge.

You're welcome.

 

[Lost4words]

Does faith prevent one from asking how? Does faith require one not seek knowledge?

No. But, I believe in God. I need not know how God created everything.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. But, I believe in God. I need not know how God created everything.

Amen!

 

[DogmaHunter]

And you speak a s a true illiterate, godless evolutionist who has no proof of anything he believes. You rest your believes on unknown people with no personal contact and you show no proof for anything they supposedly have indisputable prove of. All you guys ever say is---"you have no knowledge of science" but never produce any of that knowledge.
No one can reproduce what God has done--not even your so called science. It's been millions of years, supposedly--and you still can't reproduce a single thing He has done. We know we can't do what He does. You insist you can and will--- one day--but never have. I guess you need a few million more years.

My beliefs are based on evidence and my understanding of the evidence.
My beliefs are never based on accepting mere claims at face value.

I leave that "methodology" to creationists.