Jesus Christ, and the fact that it is common knowledge that all created things have a creator. Those are my golden nuggets, evidence if you will for my faith in Jesus Christ.
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Creation without a Creator?
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This would work If most atheists said they know there is no god.
Most atheists though, say they dont believe in a god, but that they cant know for sure.
Big difference.
Most atheists though, say they dont believe in a god, but that they cant know for sure.
Big difference.
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I am not any more "holy" than you are!
We are all sinful and deemed evil by God by nature because we choose to sin daily.
The only hope we have is the Grace of God through the Blood of Jesus.
I would like to ask then, "Why are you avoiding God?"
We are all sinful and deemed evil by God by nature because we choose to sin daily.
The only hope we have is the Grace of God through the Blood of Jesus.
I would like to ask then, "Why are you avoiding God?"
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LoL and this all leads back too... Who or what created the creator?
Again, you are arguing theism vs atheism. Neither side can win.
Oddly enough im not fighting for the atheist side. Just trying to explain why neither side can win. To believe your side can win, is to fool yourself. Its all based in faith and things that cant be proven, thus neither side can win.
Again, you are arguing theism vs atheism. Neither side can win.
Oddly enough im not fighting for the atheist side. Just trying to explain why neither side can win. To believe your side can win, is to fool yourself. Its all based in faith and things that cant be proven, thus neither side can win.
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Atheist
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
What I am saying is that it is unreasonable to disbelieve in a God when you have to be all knowing to do so.
You cannot, remain reasonable, or consistent and remain an athiest, it requires ignorance.
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
What I am saying is that it is unreasonable to disbelieve in a God when you have to be all knowing to do so.
You cannot, remain reasonable, or consistent and remain an athiest, it requires ignorance.
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well, im going to ignore the part where you called atheists ignorant.
Again, to repeat, I do not need to know everything to not believe in god. (many atheists have said that if they were shown real proof of god (like a visit by him, etc) they would switch their beliefs.)
Then my answer to why im avoiding god is:
Because I have no reason to believe it exists.
Again, to repeat, I do not need to know everything to not believe in god. (many atheists have said that if they were shown real proof of god (like a visit by him, etc) they would switch their beliefs.)
Then my answer to why im avoiding god is:
Because I have no reason to believe it exists.
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Everyone is ignorant to some extent.
Of course not, you can believe whatever you want, but to remain reasonable and hold that position is not possible.
Based on what?
God did visit us!
He even offers to dwell within you. Back to the verse I always quote.
and the saying that its not that the atheist cannot find God, it is that he won't.
Of course not, you can believe whatever you want, but to remain reasonable and hold that position is not possible.
Based on what?
God did visit us!
He even offers to dwell within you. Back to the verse I always quote.
and the saying that its not that the atheist cannot find God, it is that he won't.
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But as you can see, these arguments are Theism vs Atheism.
Not Inteligent Design Vs Evolution (and abiogenesis and the big bang).
Not Inteligent Design Vs Evolution (and abiogenesis and the big bang).
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Not really. they are completly different topics. They only end up going hand in hand because most creationism revolves around god and an attempt to use creationism (theism) to disprove evolution (atheism).
Unfortunatly evolution won awhile ago.
Unfortunatly evolution won awhile ago.
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I do not claim to know everything, in fact compared to most on this board, I would be put to shame in a real intillectual battle. I am just basing my arguments on simple concepts that should not, and can not be ignored! As one of my favorite authors says Evidence that demands a verdict! These concepts are so simple a 5 year old can understand them, but does not rule out their truthfullness, Jesus praised simple answers, in this current culture, big words and complexity is a sign of wisdom, but accepting the elementary truths that are common sense are considered silly, or unintelligent. The Christian faith is a reasonable one, and the choice to reject God is a choice based on refusing to accept the common sense, the very thing God put within us and replacing it with complex theories that the average person cannot and does not care to explore but accepts it because of how modern culture views wisdom.
It is crazy how we have turned our back on God, and made ourselves gods and arrived at the erronious theory of evolution.
God have mercy on all who read this board.
It is crazy how we have turned our back on God, and made ourselves gods and arrived at the erronious theory of evolution.
God have mercy on all who read this board.
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Evolution never won and has more unanswered questions that creationism.
If we evolved, how come we made it this far when most of the organs in our body, if not exactly as they are, we will die?
Like the ability to clot blood.
We would have all bled to death.
Or we would all be blind and would have died off.
to me it is just rediculous, that evolutionists take such a giant leap of faith and call it intelligent
Why are different species of chimpanzees regarded as human?
Why are they not regarded as they probably are? Chimpanzees that died off.
If we evolved, how come we made it this far when most of the organs in our body, if not exactly as they are, we will die?
Like the ability to clot blood.
We would have all bled to death.
Or we would all be blind and would have died off.
to me it is just rediculous, that evolutionists take such a giant leap of faith and call it intelligent
Why are different species of chimpanzees regarded as human?
Why are they not regarded as they probably are? Chimpanzees that died off.
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And then to think that we evolved with eyes, hands, thumbs, legs, sex organs etc.
and there also evolved from the same species a female with the ability to reproduce.
It is unfathomable!
and there also evolved from the same species a female with the ability to reproduce.
It is unfathomable!
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Odd, you are almost preaching to the choir.
I like simple answers too.
They are common to your sense, but not to mine. I have a perfectly fine belief system based on faith. I do not believe in god, yet I also havent used science to replace my faith. I reject your idea of god because I do not need him.
So are you calling the majority of christians godless? As you do realize that the majority of christians accept the theory of evolution, and they accept jesus and they think the two mesh perfectly together (for more info, talk to some of the christian, scientists, here )
The problem I see here is that you are bassing a lot of your beliefs on assumptions (not exactly your christian beliefs).
You are assuming that atheists dont have faith.
You are also assuming that evolution is atheism.
Etc.
I like simple answers too.
They are common to your sense, but not to mine. I have a perfectly fine belief system based on faith. I do not believe in god, yet I also havent used science to replace my faith. I reject your idea of god because I do not need him.
So are you calling the majority of christians godless? As you do realize that the majority of christians accept the theory of evolution, and they accept jesus and they think the two mesh perfectly together (for more info, talk to some of the christian, scientists, here )
The problem I see here is that you are bassing a lot of your beliefs on assumptions (not exactly your christian beliefs).
You are assuming that atheists dont have faith.
You are also assuming that evolution is atheism.
Etc.
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"It is unfathomable!"
Maybe to you, but not to me and many others (including christians )
Your examples do show a lack of understanding of evolution.
Maybe to you, but not to me and many others (including christians
)Your examples do show a lack of understanding of evolution.
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Absolute_Truth, most the atheists on this board are more sure about the certainty of evolution than they are sure that there is no God. Hence, attacking evolution is a sure way not to convert anyone (IMO).
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I am tired and want to go to bed.
Here are some websites and recommended readings
http://www.ex-atheist.com/
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
http://christiananswers.com/abr/
http://www.creationresearch.org/
http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/browse.htm
http://www.anointed-one.net/home.html
http://www.carm.org/
God Doesn't Believe in Athiests by Ray Comfort
Reasonable Faith by Dr. William Lane Craig
Case For Christ by Lee Strobel
Case For Faith by Lee Strobel
Reasonable Faith - The Scientific Case for Christianity by Dr. Jay L. Wile
New Evidence That Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell
Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis
Time For Truth by Os Guiness
God in the Dock by C.S. Lewis
But the best resource to find out more about God is His Word, the Bible
I suggest starting with the New Testament, then the Old.
It's easier to understand that way, but that's just a personal preference.
God Bless
Good Night!
Here are some websites and recommended readings
http://www.ex-atheist.com/
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
http://christiananswers.com/abr/
http://www.creationresearch.org/
http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/browse.htm
http://www.anointed-one.net/home.html
http://www.carm.org/
God Doesn't Believe in Athiests by Ray Comfort
Reasonable Faith by Dr. William Lane Craig
Case For Christ by Lee Strobel
Case For Faith by Lee Strobel
Reasonable Faith - The Scientific Case for Christianity by Dr. Jay L. Wile
New Evidence That Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell
Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis
Time For Truth by Os Guiness
God in the Dock by C.S. Lewis
But the best resource to find out more about God is His Word, the Bible
I suggest starting with the New Testament, then the Old.
It's easier to understand that way, but that's just a personal preference.
God Bless
Good Night!
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