By taking a look at the defenition of evidence it surely is, and I would like to know how the Bible has been proven unreliable.
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Creation without a Creator?
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I have no opinion at this time since I don't believe the life of Jesus is particularly relevant to the beginnings of the universe.
Having looked at various world religions, I have trouble believing that any one particular religion is correct and all the rest are wrong. Therefore, I've adopted a position of agnostism where I simply assume they are all wrong. This doesn't mean I think that God doesn't exist. Rather, I think nobody has it figured out yet.
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Mechanical Bliss
Secrecy and accountability cannot co-exist.
I didn't say this. I said that you are placing a deity over knowledge we don't have just like Jupiter was placed over Romans' knowledge of what lightning was.
That's not necessarily true. That's your opinion. There is of course the possibility that if the universe was created by a deity that we could gain a great deal of knowledge about it.
No, there is not enough evidence to say "I know". Besides, if there is, that pretty much defeats the purpose of having faith considering faith is belief without evidence.
Claims of miracles are based upon your holy book--that's circular. The Bible has not been shown to be reliable--especially when you consider that people's literal interpretation of its "plain teaching" is that the Earth is only 6,000 years old and a global flood happened when this clearly is not the case. I also question the impact of Christianity on the world--especially saying it has impacted the world more than any other religion. It is certainly responsible for tragedies, but there have been thousands of religions throughout human history, and Christianity is relatively new. Considering the majority of the world is not Christian, I'd have to say it's clear that it hasn't had a greater impact than any other religion.
I do not understand what you mean in the second break about defining God in a nonsensical way.
You are assuming a priori that Earth is a special creation without any rational basis.
You can't say no, I dont see this, because I do see it
Yes, I can say "no" because it is unsubstantiated.
Saying that there is zero evidence for your god's existence is wise as it is consistent with reality. There is as much evidence for unicorns existing (some books claim they exist also) as there is for your deity. Saying that there is zero evidence for your god's existence is just as wise as saying there is zero evidence for the existence of unicorns so there is no rational basis for belief.
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Pascals wager is wrong, I have heard it said, and I second, that God is not fire insurance!
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Mechanical Bliss
Secrecy and accountability cannot co-exist.
It's not proven that your god exists or is responsible for creating the universe, our planet, and us.
Strictly speaking, nothing in science can be proven.
It's more reasonable to accept something that is substantiated than something that is not.
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Well, there are rather big lists.
But one question:
what was the age of Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
There also is a lack of evidence of a group of people wandering the desert for awhile, as the bible says.
The global flood has also been falsified.
And it is possible for something to come from nothing, as long as that something is still nothing.
But one question:
what was the age of Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
There also is a lack of evidence of a group of people wandering the desert for awhile, as the bible says.
The global flood has also been falsified.
And it is possible for something to come from nothing, as long as that something is still nothing.
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it is also not not proven that he doesn't exist
I am saying that it is more reasonable to believe something does exist which is common sense, such as creation has a creator which has never been proven otherwise. Than something does not exist based on nothing that has ever been proven.
I am saying that it is more reasonable to believe something does exist which is common sense, such as creation has a creator which has never been proven otherwise. Than something does not exist based on nothing that has ever been proven.
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See, the problem is, that God cant be proven, nor can he be disproven.
so, first of all, as soon as you put god into the mix, its not really science anymore.
God is a possibility, however, as you can see, there are possibilities that god didnt have anything to do with it. but this is all philosophy.
so, first of all, as soon as you put god into the mix, its not really science anymore.
God is a possibility, however, as you can see, there are possibilities that god didnt have anything to do with it. but this is all philosophy.
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Well, its actually Most reasonable to say that since we dont know, we wont make assumptions as to the answer.
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So why would you put your faith in no god?
The reasonable person would have to choose God, because in the end he has nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I am only saying that is the reasonable thing to do, not the basis for my belief.
The reasonable person would have to choose God, because in the end he has nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
I am only saying that is the reasonable thing to do, not the basis for my belief.
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MartinM
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I don't 'put my faith in no God'. I just don't believe in one. And believing in something for which I see no evidence seems fundamentally dishonest to me. So yes, I do have something to lose.
So do you, in fact. What if you chose the wrong God? You could be in just as bad a position as us - maybe worse.
So do you, in fact. What if you chose the wrong God? You could be in just as bad a position as us - maybe worse.
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You are going to base the rest of your eternity on "I don't know" Try that in the courts, the next time you get a speeding ticket. Tell the judge you didn't know. He will say didn't you read the speed limit signs, you will have to say yes, but I didn't agree with them.
God is the ultimate judge, what would your case be "if" you were held accountable one day for how you lived your life on earth?
God is the ultimate judge, what would your case be "if" you were held accountable one day for how you lived your life on earth?
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Faith - Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
That is exactly what you have in the idea of no god. Since God cannot be disproved you have to use faith.
That is exactly what you have in the idea of no god. Since God cannot be disproved you have to use faith.
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That won't happen, but there isn't much I could say, except that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead, and you never sent a son to die for my sins.
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