Creation and PreAdamites

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1gen,v1: "in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was void." This means that AFTER god had made the earth it was destroyed, by none other than apollyon/abbados, lucifer, lilith, etc. Jesus plainly says that the god of this world is Satan. That is why in the rest of genesis god is refered to as "us" (satan and his lieutenants) GOD created the first spirits, the shekinah, but we were indeed made by Satan. That is why Jesus said that no man knows god. When Moses saw god it nearly aged him to death! Satan has the intent of retreating heaven on earth. With humans as his creation likeunto his relation with god. If he can do it god will abdicate his majesty, but this will not happen. God and Satan try to posses us to shift us towards their design. God will win, and Satan will attempt to kill us all. We will be saved.

utter garbage. first, your not an apostle. second, the "us" is in reference to "Elohim" which is the plural singular name of God, aka trinity. third, god of this world is in reference to sin and idolatry. last, quit listening to kenneth copeland/hagin. they are full of crap, and are heretics as with most of tbn.

 

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Yes there were pre or co-adamites, this is very clear after you study Genesis in its context of ethnology, geography etc. The Bible only deals with one race of people. If you study the Bible in the ANE (Ancient Near East) context its clear the authors were just one race who did not know of the others.

If you look at the etymology of Adam, it comes from a root word meaning 'to show blood in the face' or 'blush' (be ruddy), Adam therefore was white skinned man, a Caucasian - as blood only shows in the faces of Caucasians. So the Bible is only concerned with his descendants.

 

[sheina]

Yes there were pre or co-adamites, this is very clear after you study Genesis in its context of ethnology, geography etc. The Bible only deals with one race of people. If you study the Bible in the ANE (Ancient Near East) context its clear the authors were just one race who did not know of the others.

If you look at the etymology of Adam, it comes from a root word meaning 'to show blood in the face' or 'blush' (be ruddy), Adam therefore was white skinned man, a Caucasian - as blood only shows in the faces of Caucasians. So the Bible is only concerned with his descendants.

Hogwash!

 

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Hogwash!

Actually its what the Bible teaches.

Creationists who hold the monogenist view (i.e that everyone came from Adam on Eve), have the huge problem of explaining where all the different races came from and also it means they support incest.

If you believe everyone sprung from Adam and Eve on earth then that means you have to believe in incest. I see that as anti-Christian and immoral and it contradicts the laws in Leviticus.

Pre or co adamism sorts all this mess out and is supported by the science.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Yes there were pre or co-adamites, this is very clear after you study Genesis in its context of ethnology, geography etc. The Bible only deals with one race of people. If you study the Bible in the ANE (Ancient Near East) context its clear the authors were just one race who did not know of the others.

If you look at the etymology of Adam, it comes from a root word meaning 'to show blood in the face' or 'blush' (be ruddy), Adam therefore was white skinned man, a Caucasian - as blood only shows in the faces of Caucasians. So the Bible is only concerned with his descendants.

Absolute Garbage from no knowledge or literacy of the Word of God!
Adam is a Hebrew combination of the words Adamah/land and dam/blood. To be an Adam is to be an earth blood, an earthling, of the earth. Blood/soul and life are used as synonyms, so Adam is a living soul, housed in dust.

In Genesis 1, there was no heaven, no light, no sun, moon or stars when the earth was created as a globe of water, in darkness on day 1.
Day 1: light brought into being
Day 2: the heavens stretched out from earth, between the waters which were divided.
Day 3: dry land called to appear out of the water below the stretched out heavens.
Day 4: the sun and moon made/prepared, and stars/lightnings formed in the stretched out heavens, and set below the waters above the heavens.

Adam was white, and that is why Seth was said to have been "in his father's image", having been the first white offspring born to our first parents. Eve was black, Cain was black, Abel was red, and first daughters were black, according to the Book of Enoch, as he described them in the dream visions, which were given to him in totemic imagery of the history of the tribes/ nations of the generations of the world.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Actually its what the Bible teaches.

Creationists who hold the monogenist view (i.e that everyone came from Adam on Eve), have the huge problem of explaining where all the different races came from and also it means they support incest.

If you believe everyone sprung from Adam and Eve on earth then that means you have to believe in incest. I see that as anti-Christian and immoral and it contradicts the laws in Leviticus.

Pre or co adamism sorts all this mess out and is supported by the science.

Every one on earth born of Adam, is "Adam". That is the name of our human being race.

The one Adam "kind" is made male and female, and is one spirit, one blood, one flesh, one bone -with the remnant/residue/share of that one spirit belonging to each Adam soul conceived, after the first father was created as spirit, body, and soul.

Adam married his other half, which was "built up "from his own rib bone, with a bit of flesh, and a remnant of the one Adam spirit.

The female Adam and the male Adam make one Adam flesh, which is why the Word of God teaches that a male or a female in sexual relation with the same gender is perversion, fornication, lawlessness, and iniquity.

"Male and female made He them, and called their name Adam, in the day they were created" -Genesis 5:2.

He made them one spirit -Malachi 2:15.
He made them one blood -Acts 17:26.
He made them one bone and one flesh -Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Ishyah, because she was taken out of Ishi.

All Adam is made male and female, and is one bone, one blood, one flesh, and one spirit; with each having the residue of that same one Adam spirit, when they come into their being.

So Adam married his clone, with the "y" canceled and the "x" doubled.
So Adam married his sister, and his female/ishyah sister is his wife.
You cannot get any closer marriage than that, in the Word of God.


Jacob is recognized as the bone and flesh of Laban:
Gen 29:14 And Laban said to him, Surely thou [art] my bone and my flesh. And he abode with him the space of a month.

Brethren are one bone and one flesh. So are cousins one bone and one flesh, just removed a bit more out from the first parents.Jdg 9:2 Speak, I pray you, in the ears of all the men of Shechem, Whether [is] better for you, either that all the sons of Jerubbaal, [which are] threescore and ten persons, reign over you, or that one reign over you? remember also that I [am] your bone and your flesh.

All the tribes of Israel recognized they were one bone and one flesh together, with David:
2Sa 5:1 Then came all the tribes of Israel to David unto Hebron, and spake, saying, Behold, we [are] thy bone and thy flesh.

And so it goes. God only made one human being flesh son, in the beginning, called the Adam flesh; and He made Adam male and female, as I posted the Scripture for, so as to multiply the seed which was named in the Book of Life, and created and placed in the loins of the male Adam, and multiplying by the Adam spirit/life in the seed, through the womb of the female Adam and for the purpose of being multiplied human being sons of God [as a temple for the Glory of the Creator to indwell], as Malachi 2:15 states.

But Adam fell, lost the son-ship by his death in spirit, and lost the Glory and the hope for the Glory coming ever again into His defiled temple of clay. But the Person of God the Word, in whose image Adam was made [Romans 5:14]is now come in flesh, as He always planned, so as to be the Firstborn Son of God of the human being kind, in the New Man name, and Redeemer/Kinsman to the lost Adam seed.
As Kinsman-Redeemer to the Adam brothers of Him, He Atoned for the sins of the race, so as to cleanse the souls of those born in Adam, so that He could regenerate them in Spirit, as adopted sons in His own New Man name; whom He will also regenerate in the body of flesh at the appointed time.
The adoption is called second birth of Spirit and of body, when both are completed.

 

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Adam is a Hebrew combination of the words Adamah/land and dam/blood. To be an Adam is to be an earth blood, an earthling, of the earth. Blood/soul and life are used as synonyms, so Adam is a living soul, housed in dust.

This is clearly false, as any lexicon will tell you. Adam is a seperate word to Adamah. The latter translates as soil or ground, note Genesis 2: 7 -

''God formed man (Adam) from of the dust of the ground (Adamah)

Adam is not the same word as Adamah. Adam in Hebrew means ruddy (red), dam means blood which is red.

James Strong in his Hebrew Dictionary defined Adam as:

''to show blood (in the face), i.e flush or turn rosy''

Therefore Adam = a ruddy or rosy countanance.

Wilhelm Gesenius also translated Adam as:

''be red...ruddy...emit reddness''

Adam therefore means to emit or show a red colour. Where else does this appear in scripture? It appears in Lamentations 4: 7 where the skin of the Nazirites are described as whiter than milk but ruddy. Adam therefore means the redness which is radiated from pale white skin - to blush red in the face, meaning rosy cheeks.

What race of people can blush? Only Caucasians or those with light skin.

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Charles Weisman, in his book Origin of Race and Civilization, quotes author William C. Boyd, Ph.D., (Races of People, 1955, pages 43-45) giving the scientific explanation for this phenomena of blushing:

''the hemoglobin occurs in the blood vessels beneath the skin, so that very little can show through. The presence of fair amounts of either melanin or carotene in the skin covers it up completely. Hemoglobin does show up however in the skin of white men, particularly in those of light complexion. It is the hemoglobin that accounts for pink cheeks and the ability to blush.''​

Adam and all his descendants were therefore Caucasian or white. Genesis lists the generations (toledoth) of Adam, so the Bible is only about one family of people who descend from his race who were created in the middle-east around 15, 000 - 10, 000 years ago.

Adam was white, and that is why Seth was said to have been "in his father's image", having been the first white offspring born to our first parents. Eve was black, Cain was black, Abel was red, and first daughters were black, according to the Book of Enoch, as he described them in the dream visions, which were given to him in totemic imagery of the history of the tribes/ nations of the generations of the world.

Science, archeology etc is against these strange beliefs. The Ancient Near East was never inhabited by black races. Look at the oldest art from the Middle-east, for example from the Sumerians, Akkadians and Babylonians and look at their ancient writings how they physically described themselves. All these peoples were Caucasians. Archeology and secular history has supported the view that the Adamites were Caucasian.

The Bible should be understood in its ANE context, if you do that you will understand why the scripture was written and understand a lot more about it.

 

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This is clearly false, as any lexicon will tell you. Adam is a seperate word to Adamah. The latter translates as soil or ground, note Genesis 2: 7 -

''God formed man (Adam) from of the dust of the ground (Adamah)

Adam is not the same word as Adamah. Adam in Hebrew means ruddy (red), dam means blood which is red.

James Strong in his Hebrew Dictionary defined Adam as:

''to show blood (in the face), i.e flush or turn rosy''

Therefore Adam = a ruddy or rosy countanance.

Wilhelm Gesenius also translated Adam as:

''be red...ruddy...emit reddness''

Adam therefore means to emit or show a red colour. Where else does this appear in scripture? It appears in Lamentations 4: 7 where the skin of the Nazirites are described as whiter than milk but ruddy. Adam therefore means the redness which is radiated from pale white skin - to blush red in the face, meaning rosy cheeks.

What race of people can blush? Only Caucasians or those with light skin.

​

Charles Weisman, in his book Origin of Race and Civilization, quotes author William C. Boyd, Ph.D., (Races of People, 1955, pages 43-45) giving the scientific explanation for this phenomena of blushing:

''the hemoglobin occurs in the blood vessels beneath the skin, so that very little can show through. The presence of fair amounts of either melanin or carotene in the skin covers it up completely. Hemoglobin does show up however in the skin of white men, particularly in those of light complexion. It is the hemoglobin that accounts for pink cheeks and the ability to blush.''​

Adam and all his descendants were therefore Caucasian or white. Genesis lists the generations (toledoth) of Adam, so the Bible is only about one family of people who descend from his race who were created in the middle-east around 15, 000 - 10, 000 years ago.



Science, archeology etc is against these strange beliefs. The Ancient Near East was never inhabited by black races. Look at the oldest art from the Middle-east, for example from the Sumerians, Akkadians and Babylonians and look at their ancient writings how they physically described themselves. All these peoples were Caucasians. Archeology and secular history has supported the view that the Adamites were Caucasian.

The Bible should be understood in its ANE context, if you do that you will understand why the scripture was written and understand a lot more about it.

More hogwash!

 

[yeshuasavedme]

This is clearly false, as any lexicon will tell you. Adam is a seperate word to Adamah. The latter translates as soil or ground, note Genesis 2: 7 -
Daughters of Eve Agree: Adam Was Made from Mud - Isaac Mozeson
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Best use the Isaac Mozeson Hebrew-English dictionary, The Word, for root etymons and their meanings. Strong's did a lot of hard work, but he did not have the tools available to him in the 1800's, to get to the roots of many Hebrew words and their meanings and cousins etc.
In Adam, the Hebrew root etymons are combined to make a sensible word for the "earth blood" of human being flesh.
"Dam" is "blood", and "red" comes from the same root etymons; but it was Adam's blood [Hebrew for juice, and blood] that was red, as his color was white. Seth was the first white offspring in his daddy's own image, because Abel was red, Cain black, and daughters were black -to that point.

Adamah
MUD ADaMaH Aleph-Dalet-Mem-Hey
A-dumb-AH אדמה [DM à MD]...


To cover any M-D dampness, reverse to Dalet-Mem. דם DahM is translated as juice, extract, wine (Genesis 49:11) or blood (Genesis 9:6). דמע DeM[A] is a tear (from weeping)or juice (Exodus 22:28). More nasal-dental moisture at "MEAD" and "MOIST."
But a drier, more down-to-earth source for MUD is reversing the Dalet-Mem core of אדמה ADaMaH (ground, earth, soil, land). Man or אדם ADaM is formed "of the dust of the ground " in Genesis 2:7.



Man, thy name is mud.

Daughters of Eve Agree: Adam Was Made from Mud - Isaac Mozeson

The tribes of Adam in Enoch's dream visions, history of the world are described in totemic imagery [just like in the Tenach and NT:

The Second Vision:

85 And after this I saw another dream, and I will show the whole dream to thee, my son.
2And Enoch lifted up his voice and spake to his son Methuselah: "To thee, my son, will I speak: hear my words—incline thine ear to the dream-vision of thy father.
3"Before I took thy mother Edna, I saw in a vision on my bed, and behold a bull came forth from the earth, and that bull was white; and after it came forth a heifer, and along with this latter came forth two bulls, one of them black and the other red. 4And that black bull gored the red one and pursued him over the earth, and thereupon I could no longer see that red bull.
5"But that black bull grew and that heifer went with him, and I saw that many oxen proceeded from him which resembled and followed him.
" 6And that cow, that first one, went from the presence of that first bull in order to seek that red one, but found him not, and lamented with a great lamentation over him and sought him. 7And I looked till that first bull came to her and quieted her, and from that time onward she cried no more.
8"And after that she bore another white bull, and after him she bore many bulls and black cows. 9And I saw in my sleep that white bull likewise grow and become a great white bull, and from him proceeded many white bulls, and they resembled him. 10 And they began to beget many white bulls, which resembled them, one following the other, even many. The Book of Enoch, Translated by Robert H. Charles, 1912

Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Science, archeology etc is against these strange beliefs. The Ancient Near East was never inhabited by black races. Look at the oldest art from the Middle-east, for example from the Sumerians, Akkadians and Babylonians and look at their ancient writings how they physically described themselves. All these peoples were Caucasians. Archeology and secular history has supported the view that the Adamites were Caucasian.

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Wrong!
Not only are you ignorant of Bible truths, but you are ignorant of history.
Nebuchadnezzar was black, a descendant of Nimrod, who was black, and Nebuchadnazzar ruled the kings of the earth, as king of kings over the entire globe, as Daniel 4 states. You can see his head represented in the Olmec artifacts, I believe, because Nebuchadnezzar ruled the Olmec kings when he ruled the world.

The tribes of Adam were never separated by color, as they were always mixed in color, until long after Babel, when they began to be separated by language confusion. Because of the language divisions and separations of the tribes and the spreading out of them, by language, the gene pools became more limited.

Abraham married a black woman, Keturah, after Sarah died. Keturah was a Canaanite woman. Hagar was a black Egyptian, whom Abraham married.

The tribes of Judah married lots of black women, and no doubt, red women, and white women, and probably green and yellow women, as the tribes were not so removed and colors varied naturally within families. Joseph married an Egyptian woman [descended from Ham], for instance. Sarah was white, as her brother Laban was [Laban means white], but the color of Abraham is not mentioned anywhere that I know of, and it is really of no importance in God's plan, as He made colors on purpose, for variety in the race.

Moses married a black woman when he was "king of Cush", after fleeing Egypt and before going to Midian, which marriage was politically expedient, only.

Moses' wife, Zipporah, was descended from the black Canaanite woman, Keturah, and from Abraham.

Jews returning to Israel are all colors, today, having been mingled with the tribes of the Gentiles and marrying white, black, red, yellow, green, and so on and so forth, wives, through the centuries.

 

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Wrong!
Not only are you ignorant of Bible truths, but you are ignorant of history.
Nebuchadnezzar was black, a descendant of Nimrod, who was black, and Nebuchadnazzar ruled the kings of the earth, as king of kings over the entire globe, as Daniel 4 states. You can see his head represented in the Olmec artifacts, I believe, because Nebuchadnezzar ruled the Olmec kings when he ruled the world.

No where does the Book of Daniel state Nebuchadnazzar was King of the globe. Looks like you are adding to the Bible again, but more importantly this shows how far removed your views are from reality and history. How could Nebuchadnazzer be king of the entire globe? The Neo-Babylonian Empire only extended across the Mesopotamian region.

Nimrod and Nebuchadnezzar were not black either.

We know what Nebuchadnezzar looked like based from artwork which depicts him from his own period. Look up the famous Nebuchadnezzar engraving unearthed on an onyx stone for example, it shows him with a thin nose and straight hair - both which are non-negroid features. This further combined with the general knowledge the Babylonians were not black, refutes your nonsense. The only people claiming the Babylonians or Mesopotamians are black are Afrocentrics, no scholar though takes Afrocentrism seriously, its a pseudo-history.

And the Olmecs were not black, again that is more Afrocentric pseudo-history. This nonsense started with Ivan Sertima and his book They Came Before Columbus in the 1970's, again no scholar takes this junk seriously, these crackpot views have been debunked countless times.

What i laugh at the most, is that Afrocentrics in their fantasy pseudo-history claim black africans sailed all over the world in ancient times but if that was the case why did black africans never reach the closest Island to them? Madagascar was first settled by Austronesian people from south-east Asia. In other words, black africans couldn't even sail and settle in the closest Island to them; yet we are expected to believe blacks founded the Olmec empire, the Babylonian empire etc?

The tribes of Adam were never separated by color, as they were always mixed in color, until long after Babel, when they began to be separated by language confusion. Because of the language divisions and separations of the tribes and the spreading out of them, by language, the gene pools became more limited.

More examples of you adding to the Bible. Your fantasy of Adam's descendants being mixed - are just that a fantasy. The truth, as the archeology and secular history has confirmed - is that Mesopotamia in ancient times was only settled by Caucasian racial types, not non-whites.

Abraham married a black woman, Keturah, after Sarah died. Keturah was a Canaanite woman. Hagar was a black Egyptian, whom Abraham married.

More pseudo-history. The Canaanites were not black, nor were the Egyptians. Again, no scholar takes your claims seriously. All egyptologists reject Afrocentrism and it is clear from the artwork and other sources the Canaanites left behind they were not black.

The tribes of Judah married lots of black women, and no doubt, red women, and white women, and probably green and yellow women, as the tribes were not so removed and colors varied naturally within families.

Obviously false, since the Bible teaches marrying outside of your own ethnicity or stock of people is wrong.

''Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons'' - Deuteronomy 7: 3

The Israelites were only commanded to take wives from their own people, likewise as were the earlier Hebrews, for example Isaac was not allowed to marry outside of his own people or ethnic group (Genesis 24: 4).

The Bible also states the sin of Solomon was when he took ''foreign'' wives (1 Kings 11: 2).

Moses married a black woman when he was "king of Cush", after fleeing Egypt and before going to Midian, which marriage was politically expedient, only.

Moses did not marry a black woman. Once again you are adding to scripture which is unbiblical. The Bible is clear the wife of Moses was a Midianite, the daughter of Jethro a Midian priest.

Jews returning to Israel are all colors, today, having been mingled with the tribes of the Gentiles and marrying white, black, red, yellow, green, and so on and so forth, wives, through the centuries.

The sin of the Jews once they returned to Judah after the Babylonian captivity was taking foreign wives. The Bible speaks against intermarriage.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

No where does the Book of Daniel state Nebuchadnazzar was King of the globe. Looks like you are adding to the Bible again, but more importantly this shows how far removed your views are from reality and history. How could Nebuchadnazzer be king of the entire globe? The Neo-Babylonian Empire only extended across the Mesopotamian region..

Please read the Word of God and search out true history before making statements against both, in ignorance of what is written.
Thanks.
Nebuchadnezzar was the "king of kings" of the whole entire earth, which is a globe. Wherever man, beast or fowl dwelt, Nebuchadnezzar ruled them. He was represented by the head of gold in the dream vision, and no king since him has ruled the entire globe, and never shall -not even the antichrist- until Jesus Christ comes and rules as "The King of Kings".
There was travel and trade around the globe, in the days of Nebuchadnezzar, and which continued until the 4th century and a dark age began and travel was curtailed -but not stopped, totally for several more centuries.
The Olmecs were in delcline in the 6th century BC, when Nebuchadnezzar ruled the kings who ruled the kings who ruled----the Olmecs, as well as all North and South America; for man and beasts and fowl dwelt there.
Do you deny that?


Dan 2:37 Thou, O king, [art] king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. Dan 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou [art] this head of gold.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Nimrod and Nebuchadnezzar were not black either.

We know what Nebuchadnezzar looked like based from artwork which depicts him from his own period. Look up the famous Nebuchadnezzar engraving unearthed on an onyx stone for example, it shows him with a thin nose and straight hair - both which are non-negroid features. .

You are the most racially biased and blindly prejudiced person whom I think has ever posted here, and you are filled with ignorance on what "race" is, biblically.
We are all one race, whom God created "male and female" and called "Adam".
The only other race of human beings is called "Israel", and the Firstborn of that New Man race is God the Word, come in flesh, and in whose image Adam was made, as Romans 5:14 states.

Ham was black, Nimrod was black, Nebuchadnezzar was black.

The Ethiopian wife of Moses was black.

The Egyptian wife of Abraham, Hagar, was black.
The Canaanite wife of Abraham, Keturah, was black.
Joseph's Egyptian wife was black.
Several wives of the sons of Jacob were black Canaanite women.
Today, there are black Jews from Ethiopia, asian JEws from India/China border, white, green, and every colors God intended for the race of Adam, in the beginning, when He made Eve Black, Adam white, and their children of mixed colors.


The Olmecs were black -and "Chinese" -from China- to boot, according to writings of the ancients, which has weight from Chinese Olmec artifact connections.

Olmec Head at La Venta Park, Villahermosa. Tabasco, Mexico
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KdcWntyPm...8WhKwxFwwU/s1600/Cabeza+olmeca+olmec+head.jpg
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Most lurkers who click on this thread will call you a poe.

Do you honestly expect people to take your claim seriously that Nebuchadnazzer ruled the entire globe?

Basic history lesson: the Neo-Babylonian Empire only existed in the Mesopotamian region.

Perhaps you also believe the earth is flat if you are reading these Bible passages so literally? There's nothing wrong with reading literally, as long as you understand the ANE context...

Here's some help on Daniel 2: 38 -

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

''And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field, and the fowls of the heavens, hath he given into thy hand - This is evidently general language, and is not to be pressed literally.

It is designed to say that he ruled over the whole world; that is, the world as then known. This is common language applied in the Scriptures to the Babylonian, Persian, Grecian, and Roman kingdoms. Thus in Daniel 2:39, the third of these kingdoms, the Grecian, was to "bear rule over all the earth." Compare Daniel 8:5 : "And, as I was considering, behold, an he-goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth." So of the Roman empire, in Daniel 7:23 : "The fourth beast shall devour the whole earth."

--- You have to read these verses in the ANE context of a limited geographical knowledge.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Gen 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

The sinites -Chinese -were also from Canaan, and the isolation of the tribes after Babel caused the limited gene pools of today. Before that, you could not claim a feature belonged to only one tribe, and you really cannot do that today, as you can find every feature, assorted, in the isolated tribes even today. Some are more pronounced than they would be, if not for the isolation by language division.

And marrying was never forbidden by color of skin. Because of their jealousy of Moses for marrying a black Ethiopian woman, Miriam was struck with leprosy for one week, as discipline.

Num 12:1 ¶ And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. Num 12:9 ¶ And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. Num 12:10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam [became] leprous, [white] as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, [she was] leprous.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Do you honestly expect people to take your claim seriously that Nebuchadnazzer ruled the entire globe?

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Bible believing Christians and historians who are informed of world travel up and until the dark ages will think you are totally ignorant of both the Word and of true history.
The Word says men were scattered over the earth -which is a tebel/globe [translated "world"], after the fall of the tower of Babel, which began with the division of tongues and continued thereafter.

The Word says Nebuchadnezzar ruled all kings of the earth, wherever man, beast, or fowl dwelt. The Olmecs are just one of the tribal groups, spread out, which we have knowledge of being in the western continents at the same time Nebuchadnezzar ruled the entire globe, the whole earth, wherever man, beast, or fowl dwelt.

There has never been another king of kings of earth since Nebuchadnezzar, according to the Word of the LORD given through the dream vision of the statue of gold, which Nebuchadnezzar's Babylonian kingdom was the "chief/the head of: and there never will be another, until Jesus Christ takes possession of the earth which He redeemed, and rules all kings.

Nimrod built Babylon, and his descendants ruled there. Nebuchadnezzar descended from Nimrod, who was black.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

...Compare Daniel 8:5 : "And, as I was considering, behold, an he-goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth." So of the Roman empire, in Daniel 7:23 : "The fourth beast shall devour the whole earth."

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The statue of Nebuchadnezzar's dream vision, Daniel chapter 2, tells world history from the time of Nebuchadnezzar to Christ.

Alexander destroyed the "cartel" -so to speak, of kingdoms, but did not have the control of the kings whom Nebuchadnezzar did: but even the Greeks still traveled to the western continents, and settled them, as history proves, if you go learn it from real sources instead of just believing the made up history of the world that is put forth by those who have ignorance by will, to push the agenda of Evolution.

 

[Research1]

You are the most racially biased and blindly prejudiced person whom I think has ever posted here, and you are filled with ignorance on what "race" is, biblically.

I read the Old Testament in its ANE context, i understand therefore that Adam and his descendants are only one race of people - Caucasians (as the archeology and history of the middle-east shows).

Ethnologists who study ancient Sumeria and Babylonia know that the inhabitants in ancient times there were always Caucasian, either of the Mediterranean phenotype, or the fairer Nordic white sub-type.

Most ethnologists since the 19th century have labeled the Sumerians and earliest inhabitants of the middle-east as belonging to the Caspian Mediterranean white sub-race (look it up), while acknowledging a minority fairer Nordic population (for example some Sumerian busts have blue painted eyes and blonde or red hair, while the Gutians in their own cuneiform writings described themselves as blonde and pale).

The authors of Genesis had little (if any) contact with other races, and it it made clear throughout Genesis that all the events described took place in the Mesopotamian or middle-eastern region.

Cush (ethiopia) is not the ethiopia of Africa but an Asiatic Ethiopia, which is found also described in Greek mythology. Herodotus, Strabo, Pausanias and many other ancient Greek writers all noted that Ethiopia was a kingdom in the middle-east, not Africa. Again research this.

None of this has anything to do with racial prejudice, instead its about looking at the ANE history and archeology and understanding about the context of the Old Testament.

Ham was black, Nimrod was black, Nebuchadnezzar was black.

The Ethiopian wife of Moses was black.

The Egyptian wife of Abraham, Hagar, was black.
The Canaanite wife of Abraham, Keturah, was black.
Joseph's Egyptian wife was black.
Several wives of the sons of Jacob were black Canaanite women.
Today, there are black Jews from Ethiopia, asian JEws from India/China border, white, green, and every colors God intended for the race of Adam, in the beginning, when He made Eve Black, Adam white, and their children of mixed colors.

If i have time i will later go through all these and show why you are wrong, and i have many sources. Until then try researching some of the stuff i wrote above.

The Olmecs were black -and "Chinese" -from China- to boot, according to writings of the ancients, which has weight from Chinese Olmec artifact connections.

And out of thousands of Olmec heads which distplay typical Mesomaerican Indian features, only 3 or 4 show Negroid features. Yes, they are out of place, but it doesn't suddenly mean the entire Olmecs or their civilization was founded by blacks.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Moses did not marry a black woman. Once again you are adding to scripture which is unbiblical. The Bible is clear the wife of Moses was a Midianite, the daughter of Jethro a Midian priest.

Zipporah was the second wife of Moses, and the first was a black Ethiopian.

Even at that, Zipporah was descended from Abraham and Keturah, the third wife of Abraham, and the Midianites intermarried with Ismael's descendants, and Ishmael was descendend from Abraham and a black Egyptian woman, Hagar, so the color of skin was darker for Keturah than for Sarah, who was "white", but the darkest skinned of the three was Hagar, who was black.
Abraham married three women and bore sons by all three, and they were three shades of color, for Sarah was white, as the bit written by Abraham included in the Genesis Apocryphon in the Dead Sea Scrolls states.
There are black Jews and Asian Jews as well as white and green and yellow Jews in Israel today. They are mixed in colors, just like the Creator first made the race of Adam.

You are so prejudiced against color of skin, which God genetically designed for our human being race, that your prejudiced comments are making this thread stink.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

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And out of thousands of Olmec heads which distplay typical Mesomaerican Indian features, only 3 or 4 show Negroid features. Yes, they are out of place, but it doesn't suddenly mean the entire Olmecs or their civilization was founded by blacks.

I deleted your racist ignorant comments, as I have replied to them already using the Word.
But I left your false comments which I guess in your blindness you have begun to make up because of your heart of dark prejudiced bias against the colors of the race of Adam, so as to refute it publically, and rebuke you.
170 does not make "thousands" -see below. and of those the heads and figures show black and asian priminent features from isolated genetic information after Babel.

Olmec Heads
Over 170 Olmec monuments have been found within the area, and eighty percent of those occur at the three largest Olmec centers, La Venta, Tabasco (38%), San Lorenzo Tenochtitlan, Veracruz (30%), and Laguna de los Cerros, Veracruz (12%).

This site [http://www.essaysbyekowa.com/olmecs.htm] is not up on the Chinese black -Olmec connection, but they do tell you that only twenty two colossal stone heads have been found, which rebukes you, again.