Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years

[DaisyDay]

The Hill's 12:30 Report — Cohen gets three years in prison | Fallout from Oval Office clash | House GOP eyes vote on $5B for wall

Michael Cohen is sentenced to 3 years in prison:

President Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen has been sentenced to serve 36 months in federal prison for a series of crimes he committed while working for Trump. I.e.: Cohen was Trump's personal "fixer." Cohen sentenced to three years in prison

What about Cohen allegedly lying to Congress?: "Judge sentenced him to 2 months for lying to Congress, to be served concurrently to 36-month sentence." I.e.: No additional time. Nicole Fuller on Twitter

 

[DaisyDay]

Michael Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years After Implicating Trump in Hush-Money Scandal

Federal agents raided Mr. Cohen’s office and home in April, and he later turned on Mr. Trump, making the remarkable admission in court that Mr. Trump had directed him to arrange the payments.

Mr. Trump at first denied knowing anything about the payments, but then acknowledged that he had known about them. This week, he insisted that the payments were “a simple private transaction” — not election-related spending subject to campaign-finance laws.

He also maintained that even if the hush-money payments were campaign transactions in violation of election regulations, that should be considered only a civil offense, not a criminal one.

Donald says he didn't do what Cohen said he did, but if he did do it, it was only a civil violation.

 

[evoeth]

NYT:

The Southern District depicted him as deceitful and greedy and unwilling to fully cooperate with its investigation. It said it declined to sign Mr. Cohen as a formal cooperator because he refused to discuss fully any crimes in his past or crimes by others that he was aware of — its policy for witnesses who seek to cooperate.
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Trump's guy just went down for covering for other Trump crimes and not so much as a Thank You from Trump.

What a heel.

 

[mark kennedy]

let that be a lesson to you, never pay off a inappropriate content star for a future President. Oh, and if you do be carefull who you lie to about it. Just wondering, can't they sue Stormy Daniels for disclosing something she agreed not to?

 

[camille70]

let that be a lesson to you, never pay off a inappropriate content star for a future President. Oh, and if you do be carefull who you lie to about it. Just wondering, can't they sue Stormy Daniels for disclosing something she agreed not to?

They went to court to get the disclosure agreement voided. Her lawyer at the time was working with Trump and Cohen against her and I think some of the language or the signatures were invalid. Trumps name wasn't signed it was that pseudonym he uses, and something about his lawyer not being able to enter or sign on his behalf. I don't remember how it turned out or if it's ongoing. Initially they just wanted her released from the agreement, but then they filed more charges for slander when Trump called her a liar. Eventually they came back and wanted to give her what she wanted, but either it was too late because of the other charges filed or Stormy was forced to accept the release and an agreement to pay back the cash. I forget which and am not able to search to figure it out now. I think there is still some sort of case going on because Avenatti mentions it from time to time on his Twitter timeline.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Ch]

They went to court to get the disclosure agreement voided. Her lawyer at the time was working with Trump and Cohen against her and I think some of the language or the signatures were invalid. Trumps name wasn't signed it was that pseudonym he uses, and something about his lawyer not being able to enter or sign on his behalf. I don't remember how it turned out or if it's ongoing. Initially they just wanted her released from the agreement, but then they filed more charges for slander when Trump called her a liar. Eventually they came back and wanted to give her what she wanted, but either it was too late because of the other charges filed or Stormy was forced to accept the release and an agreement to pay back the cash. I forget which and am not able to search to figure it out now. I think there is still some sort of case going on because Avenatti mentions it from time to time on his Twitter timeline.

Cohen will probably do a few months then get probation for the rest of the time.

 

[Aldebaran]

let that be a lesson to you, never pay off a inappropriate content star for a future President. Oh, and if you do be carefull who you lie to about it. Just wondering, can't they sue Stormy Daniels for disclosing something she agreed not to?

She should at least have to pay back whatever money she took in that agreement. It's strange how she could accept all that money in exchange for silence, and then turn around and be instrumental in getting the guy who paid her put in prison for 3 years, and yet she gets to keep the money.

 

[camille70]

Ch]

Cohen will probably do a few months then get probation for the rest of the time.

I think he is going to do at least two years. They are wanting to make an example out of him, and they have bigger fish they want to go after for similar crimes. It makes no sense that people directing or benefiting from his actions would get less time. SDNY wasn't impressed with him, but I think he is going to become a lot more helpful and get the 3 years reduced. He also got 2 mos in relation to charges with the special counsel, but they are being served concurrently.

Edit: I was mistaken. The two months was for lying to congress.

 

[Lost4words]

I bet Trump is giving him a substantial back hander for taking the rap.

 

[Aldebaran]

I bet Trump is giving him a substantial back hander for taking the rap.

The biggest backhander would be to not pardon him. He may have done that if Cohen hadn't turned. It's hard to tell if Cohen ended up revealing things against Trump that were true, or if he was telling the prosecution what they wanted to hear in order to reduce or eliminate his sentence. It's really no different than using torture to get information out of someone. Sometimes the tortured person will say what the torturer wants to hear. Same for the one facing prison time--unless they "cooperate".

 

[Go Braves]

She should at least have to pay back whatever money she took in that agreement. It's strange how she could accept all that money in exchange for silence, and then turn around and be instrumental in getting the guy who paid her put in prison for 3 years, and yet she gets to keep the money.

She offered to do just that in exchange for being released from the hush agreement.

 

[camille70]

The biggest backhander would be to not pardon him. He may have done that if Cohen hadn't turned. It's hard to tell if Cohen ended up revealing things against Trump that were true, or if he was telling the prosecution what they wanted to hear in order to reduce or eliminate his sentence. It's really no different than using torture to get information out of someone. Sometimes the tortured person will say what the torturer wants to hear. Same for the one facing prison time--unless they "cooperate".

So you expect me to believe he was just saying what the prosecutors wanted to hear to avoid jail time? Does he also possess a time machine to go back and create transactions, documents and paper trails to go along with said commentary?

 

[Go Braves]

I bet Trump is giving him a substantial back hander for taking the rap.

Doubt it. Trump went from singing praise about Cohen to all but pulling his britches down & crapping on him.

 

[Aldebaran]

She offered to do just that in exchange for being released from the hush agreement.

Offered? Was her offer accepted? Did she end up paying it back so she could do what she ended up doing?

 

[Nithavela]

 

[Go Braves]

Offered? Was her offer accepted? Did she end up paying it back so she could do what she ended up doing?

It was offered on the condition that she be released from the hush agreement, Aldebaran.

 

[TLK Valentine]

She should at least have to pay back whatever money she took in that agreement. It's strange how she could accept all that money in exchange for silence, and then turn around and be instrumental in getting the guy who paid her put in prison for 3 years, and yet she gets to keep the money.

Silence about what? Doesn't Donald still swear nothing happened?

 

[TLK Valentine]

The biggest backhander would be to not pardon him. He may have done that if Cohen hadn't turned.

Indeed -- Donald prefers loyal criminals in his employment.

It's hard to tell if Cohen ended up revealing things against Trump that were true, or if he was telling the prosecution what they wanted to hear in order to reduce or eliminate his sentence.

How hard can it be? They figured out he was lying the first time...

It's really no different than using torture to get information out of someone. Sometimes the tortured person will say what the torturer wants to hear. Same for the one facing prison time--unless they "cooperate".

Ironic, considering that Donald supports torture, but is against cooperating with the authorities.

 

[Sparagmos]

The biggest backhander would be to not pardon him. He may have done that if Cohen hadn't turned. It's hard to tell if Cohen ended up revealing things against Trump that were true, or if he was telling the prosecution what they wanted to hear in order to reduce or eliminate his sentence. It's really no different than using torture to get information out of someone. Sometimes the tortured person will say what the torturer wants to hear. Same for the one facing prison time--unless they "cooperate".

The filings on Cohen say his claims were corroborated by other evidence. From what I hear Cohen might have been required to provide the leads on the corroboration himself. A good prosecutor would never rest their case on uncorroboted witness statements.

 

[KCfromNC]

Just a reminder - in addition to being Trump's personal attorney this is also ex-RNC Deputy Finance Chair going to federal prison for campaign finance violations.

Lots of swamp-draining in the past week or so.