Cohen Sentenced to 3 Years

[Sparagmos]

Offered? Was her offer accepted? Did she end up paying it back so she could do what she ended up doing?

You know you could google that if you are really curious.

 

[Lost4words]

Doubt it. Trump went from singing praise about Cohen to all but pulling his britches down & crapping on him.

A smoke screen.

 

[evoeth]

A smoke screen.

Smock screen, comrade. Learn the newspeak

 

[camille70]

The filings on Cohen say his claims were corroborated by other evidence. From what I hear Cohen might have been required to provide the leads on the corroboration himself. A good prosecutor would never rest their case on uncorroboted witness statements.

Fox News: Prosecutors Have Evidence of Trump Felony and Will use it


Career prosecutors here in New York City have evidence that the president of the United States committed a felony by ordering and paying Michael Cohen to break the law,” Napolitano said. “How do we know that? They told that to a federal judge. Under the rules, they can’t tell that to a federal judge unless they have that hardcore evidence. Under the rules, they can’t tell that to a federal judge unless they intend to do something with that evidence.

The felony is paying Michael Cohen to commit a felony. It’s pretty basic,” Napolitano replied, explaining: A hires B to shoot someone. A is as liable as if he had pulled the trigger. You pay someone to commit a crime, they commit the crime, you’re liable, criminally liable for their commission of that crime. That’s what the prosecutors told the federal judge.

 

[mark kennedy]

They went to court to get the disclosure agreement voided. Her lawyer at the time was working with Trump and Cohen against her and I think some of the language or the signatures were invalid. Trumps name wasn't signed it was that pseudonym he uses, and something about his lawyer not being able to enter or sign on his behalf. I don't remember how it turned out or if it's ongoing. Initially they just wanted her released from the agreement, but then they filed more charges for slander when Trump called her a liar. Eventually they came back and wanted to give her what she wanted, but either it was too late because of the other charges filed or Stormy was forced to accept the release and an agreement to pay back the cash. I forget which and am not able to search to figure it out now. I think there is still some sort of case going on because Avenatti mentions it from time to time on his Twitter timeline.

Thanks for the details, personally I think her and that centerfold are a couple of hookers that agreed to get paid, then rolled the John when the political scandal got juicy. Don't get me wrong I'm no Trump enthusiast but the lawyer client privilege should have blocked the sopnea. Now Cohen has been a bad boy, borrowing money for a home improvement load and using it politically. I've never got how these guys lie so often, they should know that's just blood in the shark infested waters. I just don't like what is supposed to be a legally binding agreement is set aside and I guarentee I'm going to be real careful what I tell a lawyer because judges appear to have broad discretionary powers and lawyer client privilege is only as good as the political climate it exists in.

 

[Tanj]

Thanks for the details, personally I think her and that centerfold are a couple of hookers that agreed to get paid, then rolled the John when the political scandal got juicy.

I'm disappointed that you only managed to cram a few pointlessly derogatory comments about "hookers" in that sentence. Surely you could have tried a bit harder to further marginalize and deride them? Such a great Christian attitude, like that bit I read in the bible where Jesus stays far away from the prostitutes and never goes near them.

"Hate the sin and not the sinner...unless they're hookers, in which case it's open season on the hate".

 

[iluvatar5150]

Michael Cohen Granted Prison Work Release For New Job With Trump 2020 Campaign

 

[Go Braves]

A smoke screen.

You think Trump is nothing but smock & mirrors?

 

[mark kennedy]

I'm disappointed that you only managed to cram a few pointlessly derogatory comments about "hookers" in that sentence. Surely you could have tried a bit harder to further marginalize and deride them? Such a great Christian attitude, like that bit I read in the bible where Jesus stays far away from the prostitutes and never goes near them.

"Hate the sin and not the sinner...unless they're hookers, in which case it's open season on the hate".

Of course your right, my apologies. I just think it's more of the same tabloid trash that continues to erode our democracy. I just hate it, I think Cohen got what he had coming but an agreement made in good faith shouldn't result in a warrant to search a lawyers records for dirt on a sitting President. Perhaps my ire was ill conceived, but I still feel strongly that this was wrong. I don't like Trump, I don't support him politically, but I felt very strongly this was tabloid nonsense. Perhaps I got a little carried away.

Perhaps you can forgive my meager attempt at satire, I just think a free people are better then this.

 

[Kentonio]

I just hate it, I think Cohen got what he had coming but an agreement made in good faith shouldn't result in a warrant to search a lawyers records for dirt on a sitting President. Perhaps my ire was ill conceived, but I still feel strongly that this was wrong.

Err what? They managed to get a warrant because they had evidence of Cohen breaking the law with his dealings with Trump. Judges don't just hand out warrants for lawyers on a whim. If you want your communications with your lawyer to be safe, then simply don't commit crimes with him/her.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Thanks for the details, personally I think her and that centerfold are a couple of hookers that agreed to get paid, then rolled the John when the political scandal got juicy. Don't get me wrong I'm no Trump enthusiast but the lawyer client privilege should have blocked the sopnea. Now Cohen has been a bad boy, borrowing money for a home improvement load and using it politically.

When the lawyer becomes an accomplice in the client's crime, privilege no longer applies.

I've never got how these guys lie so often, they should know that's just blood in the shark infested waters. I just don't like what is supposed to be a legally binding agreement is set aside and I guarentee I'm going to be real careful what I tell a lawyer because judges appear to have broad discretionary powers and lawyer client privilege is only as good as the political climate it exists in.

Using campaign money to influence an election without reporting it is illegal. No illegal contract is binding.

 

[KCfromNC]

Of course your right, my apologies. I just think it's more of the same tabloid trash that continues to erode our democracy.

You mean like electing as president a reality-TV show host who has cheated on his nude model wife with inappropriate content stars? That kind of thing?

Seems kind of weird to now start complaining about antics which degrade the office and all that.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You mean like electing as president a reality-TV show host who has cheated on his nude model wife with inappropriate content stars? That kind of thing?

Seems kind of weird to now start complaining about antics which degrade the office and all that.

But all those alleged acts of immorality were done back when Donald Trump was a Democrat and before he embraced the True Political Party and accepted Jesus as his personal savior. This highlights the levels of depravity of the Democratic Party and using the scientific formula of “One = All”( this formula has been around since the ancient Greeks and was originally formulated by the great Greek economists Trumpopularpoulis who took one Drachma he found on the road to Sparta and turned it into a great fortune, the formula goes as follows… if one member of a city state or tribe does something detestable, then all of the city state or tribe are guilty of the same collusion. The only way to wipe clean this stain is to change ones city states or tribes, then there is no collusion). You cannot trust anything a Democrat says because they are as depraved as Trump once was, unless they become Republicans. The triple flipper Arlen Specter does not count.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Just a reminder - in addition to being Trump's personal attorney this is also ex-RNC Deputy Finance Chair going to federal prison for campaign finance violations.

Lots of swamp-draining in the past week or so.

How thoughtful of Donald to bring his own swamp.

 

[mark kennedy]

You mean like electing as president a reality-TV show host who has cheated on his nude model wife with inappropriate content stars? That kind of thing?

Seems kind of weird to now start complaining about antics which degrade the office and all that.

It's more than his extramarital pursuits. The way these scandals are paradded endlessly smothers the actual issue we should really be better informed about. I think we are in the final stages of a highly politicised court system. Cohen apparently was guilty of tax fraud, that's a nasty one, Federal Courts are known to be vindictive. I just wonder if he would have been found out had he never gotten involved with Trump or brokered the deal that was paraded endlessly in the TV media. I imagine Manifort and a host of others wonder the same thing.

 

[cow451]

How thoughtful of Donald to bring his own swamp.

If you want it done right, do it yourself.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It's more than his extramarital pursuits. The way these scandals are paradded endlessly smothers the actual issue we should really be better informed about. I think we are in the final stages of a highly politicised court system. Cohen apparently was guilty of tax fraud, that's a nasty one, Federal Courts are known to be vindictive. I just wonder if he would have been found out had he never gotten involved with Trump or brokered the deal that was paraded endlessly in the TV media. I imagine Manifort and a host of others wonder the same thing.

What's to wonder? Of course they wouldn't have gotten caught. But OTOH, my understanding is that Manafort was trying to use his access to Trump as a way to pay off his debt to some Russians. He was probably screwed either way.

 

[mark kennedy]

What's to wonder? Of course they wouldn't have gotten caught. But OTOH, my understanding is that Manafort was trying to use his access to Trump as a way to pay off his debt to some Russians. He was probably screwed either way.

Just read an article that the allocution of Cohen indicates Trump commited a felony, it was actually reported by Fox. Oh my, does this mean another President will face inpeachment for getting involved with these little sleep around...ladies? He had better learn what the definition of is, is, it proved significant in Clinton's testimony.

 

[camille70]

Just read an article that the allocution of Cohen indicates Trump commited a felony, it was actually reported by Fox. Oh my, does this mean another President will face inpeachment for getting involved with these little sleep around...ladies? He had better learn what the definition of is, is, it proved significant in Clinton's testimony.

Not for sleeping with them. For paying them off and lying about them as IT services in the case of Stormy's payment.

 

[Fantine]

Yes, there has been swamp draining, but John Kelly, a relative, albeit misogynistic, voice of reason in the administration, is exiting and is now expected to be replaced by Jared Kushner.

Only a relative will take the job, it seems. So the swamp is filling up again.