Christians do not "own" morality

[Ruthie24]

But this all powerful God who knew what he created and how people would act can then justify killing portions of his creation as his only option and you are ok with that, coming from an all loving, all powerful, all knowing God.

I can't buy that, you may be able to, but I can't and it wouldn't be a God I would feel good about.

If a portion of a population became so corrupted and evil to where they were sacrificing their own children, cannibalizing people, to where their DNA had been genetically altered when they agreed to sell their women and daughters to be raped by fallen angels, to where their conscience had been genetically altered by these demonic angels, then these people are no longer human beings but nephilim and progeny of such. They were not God's creation any longer.

There is a history behind why things happen in our history that is not being told. You have to go back to Genesis and the ancient texts as well as look at archeological finds and cultural history. Then compare it to Revelations and today's times.

 

[Gadarene]

If a portion of a population became so corrupted and evil to where they were sacrificing their own children, cannibalizing people, to where their DNA had been genetically altered when they agreed to sell their women and daughters to be raped by fallen angels, to where their conscience had been genetically altered by these demonic angels, then these people are no longer human beings but nephilim and progeny of such. They were not God's creation any longer.

I'm gonna need a lot more to justify a genocide than a claim of "they were the spawn of evil angels, no really" coming from the guy who ordained the genocide in the first place and/or his cronies.

I mean, DNA alteration, are you serious? Got any kind of DNA proof of this?

 

[Gadarene]

Hmm.....claiming it's ok to genocide a people because of their genetics....where have I heard that before

But you lot aren't relativists, oh no

 

[Ruthie24]

The stuff that isn't considered canonical by most of Christianity? Sure about that?

The Ethiopian church includes all of those books. Yes I'm sure about that. I'm also sure that the seed of Satan has entered the church and this is the exact reason why some churches include the cannons and some don't. The books of Enoch, Jasher, etc were mentioned in the Bible. The very early 1st century church, the apostles all knew about these documents or they would not have been mentioned in the Bible.

 

[Ruthie24]

Hmm.....claiming it's ok to genocide a people because of their genetics....where have I heard that before

But you lot aren't relativists, oh no

You are missing the point and inferring something I did not say. In one post I mentioned several authors. If you want to understand more and don't feel like reading their books they also have lectures on YouTube.

The best ones are:
Douglas Hamp, Steve Quayle, Chuck Missler, Tom Horn, Michael Heiser and two others. But the above is where you can start off.

 

[PsychoSarah]

The Ethiopian church includes all of those books. Yes I'm sure about that. I'm also sure that the seed of Satan has entered the church and this is the exact reason why some churches include the cannons and some don't. The books of Enoch, Jasher, etc were mentioned in the Bible. The very early 1st century church, the apostles all knew about these documents or they would not have been mentioned in the Bible.

Ever read some of the books removed from canon? They are nuts.

 

[bhsmte]

If a portion of a population became so corrupted and evil to where they were sacrificing their own children, cannibalizing people, to where their DNA had been genetically altered when they agreed to sell their women and daughters to be raped by fallen angels, to where their conscience had been genetically altered by these demonic angels, then these people are no longer human beings but nephilim and progeny of such. They were not God's creation any longer.

There is a history behind why things happen in our history that is not being told. You have to go back to Genesis and the ancient texts as well as look at archeological finds and cultural history. Then compare it to Revelations and today's times.

Makes no sense and certainly does not justify the need of an all powerful God to choose killing his creation. This is one area some Christians need to perform psychological gymnastics to make the story work.

 

[Ruthie24]

Ever read some of the books removed from canon? They are nuts.

It's your choice to believe that. You can YouTube those authors if you care too.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Makes no sense and certainly does not justify the need of an all powerful God to choose killing his creation. This is one area some Christians need to perform psychological gymnastics to make the story work.

What is interesting is that god stating that Cain should not be killed for his crime seems to take a stance against death penalties, but then god kills people for being bad later -_-

 

[Gadarene]

Makes no sense and certainly does not justify the need of an all powerful God to choose killing his creation. This is one area some Christians need to perform psychological gymnastics to make the story work.

And yet again - why is God choosing to create these people he knows will just turn into Saturday morning cartoon vi- I mean Nephilim - anyway?

 

[Gadarene]

You are missing the point and inferring something I did not say.

Er, no, dehumanising people based on their genetics is straight out of the Nazi playbook.

 

[Ruthie24]

Makes no sense and certainly does not justify the need of an all powerful God to choose killing his creation. This is one area some Christians need to perform psychological gymnastics to make the story work.

Like I said, read the books, watch the YouTube lectures if you want too become more informed. It's your choice.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Like I said, read the books, watch the YouTube lectures if you want too become more informed. It's your choice.

To, not too.

 

[bhsmte]

And yet again - why is God choosing to create these people he knows will just turn into Saturday morning cartoon vi- I mean Nephilim - anyway?

If God created mankind, then he either wasn't capable of creating man that wouldn't sin, or he was capable and instead chose to make man flawed, knowing he would justify killing them.

However you slice it, it ain't good.

 

[Ruthie24]

To, not too.

OK, whatever.

 

[bhsmte]

Like I said, read the books, watch the YouTube lectures if you want too become more informed. It's your choice.

I don't believe everything someone writes in a book Ruthie, especially when it can't be reconciled with evidence or reality. If you want to, then knock yourself out.

 

[Gadarene]

If God created mankind, then he either wasn't capable of creating man that wouldn't sin, or he was capable and instead chose to make man flawed, knowing he would justify killing them.

However you slice it, it ain't good.

To then try and remove any and all responsibility and fault from the entity with the greatest amount of control and say in the situation is absolutely laughable.

Yeah, it's all the fault of the humans, beings with the least knowledge, will and understanding of existence.

 

[Ruthie24]

Er, no, dehumanising people based on their genetics is straight out of the Nazi playbook.

Your missing the point again. This has nothing to do with Nazis and I am not at all saying that nor do I believe in these evil people. If you don't want to read a book or watch a lecture about any of this subject it's your choice. So whatever. I never once mentioned Nazism or anything regarding what those evil people did.

 

[Ruthie24]

I don't believe everything someone writes in a book Ruthie, especially when it can't be reconciled with evidence or reality. If you want to, then knock yourself out.

And if you want to be ignorant be my guest. Once again it just goes to show you do not read or investigate anything.

 

[Syd the Human]

Your missing the point again. This has nothing to do with Nazis and I am not at all saying that nor do I believe in these evil people. If you don't want to read a book or watch a lecture about any of this subject it's your choice. So whatever. I never once mentioned Nazism or anything regarding what those evil people did.

Nazi's hated the Jews because they thought they were genetically inferior to the Aryan race, so they sought to eliminate them from the face of the Earth.

You claimed that the people were so corrupted that their DNA was changing and that they were so evil they had to be eliminated from the face of the Earth.

Pretty similar.