Christian Forums Under New Management

[DarylFawcett]

Why not allow others to speak if they stay within forum guidelines with their posts?

I do think that anonymous titles should be removed. This would probably eliminate a lot of the reporting, and also a lot of the problems in the report threads.

Christianity works better with the lights kept on.

The problem is just that, as they are not staying within the guidelines/rules in those open reports.

 

[Stormy]

The problem is just that, as they are not staying within the guidelines/rules in those open reports.

It was much worse when they were closed.

The respect for the mods was much lower than it is now, and it was really hard to figure out what each individual mod would see as an infraction of the rules.

I was harassed through pm by a mod.. who has since turned Atheists.. for not having a more conservative Christian stance.

It seemed like I was getting warnings for nothing. If it was not worthy of a report then why a warning?

The secret world of CF was not a pretty place.

 

[Servant222]

BTW, if anyone has not yet seen what the "real" Lee looks like, you can go here:

http://foru.ms/t6355333-lee-dodds-the-new-owner-of-christian-forums.html

 

[Stormy]

BTW, if anyone has not yet seen what the "real" Lee looks like, you can go here:

http://foru.ms/t6355333-lee-dodds-the-new-owner-of-christian-forums.html

Stormy, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

 

[Servant222]

Sorry, I started that thread in the site supporter's section; here is the opening post. Maybe it could be moved to a place where everyone can access it.

Here's his bio:

http://www.leedodd.com/about-lee-dodd/


Could we reserve this thread for positive comments and insights from site supporters about Lee. Thanks!

Here is a verse for you, Lee, as you start this new endeavor:

Ephesians 4

1As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.

 

[Stormy]

Perhaps I am not allowed in because I am not a site supporter?

That is another question that I have. At one time Erwin said that since he signed up for the goggle adds that site support is no longer necessary... so I quit.

I do give to just about every worthy charity there is (especially for kids) and it would be no problem here ... if the money went to good use. But I did not see a reason to pad the owners wallet.

So... what is it? Is site support needed? And if it is not, then why penalize people who would rather donate to charities where there is real need?

 

[tulc]

Yeah yeah, family man, yadda yadda so on, so on. But where's the info we need most to know??
What kind of coffee do you drink?
tulc(come on ...who didn't see that coming?)

 

[ParsonJefferson]

http://www.leedodd.com/index.php

So this site has gone from a Christian forum, to a distinctly un-Christian forum, to a profit-based money-driven forum.

That pretty much sums up why my hopes have faded to nothing.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

Yeah yeah, family man, yadda yadda so on, so on. But where's the info we need most to know??
What kind of coffee do you drink?
tulc(come on ...who didn't see that coming?)

I think we both know he drinks Caribou Coffee - just like all smart, successful people!

 

[pgp_protector]

Perhaps I am not allowed in because I am not a site supporter?

That is another question that I have. At one time Erwin said that since he signed up for the goggle adds that site support is no longer necessary... so I quit.

I do give to just about every worthy charity there is (especially for kids) and it would be no problem here ... if the money went to good use. But I did not see a reason to pad the owners wallet.

So... what is it? Is site support needed? And if it is not, then why penalize people who would rather donate to charities where there is real need?

No one is "penalize" for not supporting, they get the default package that is offered to everyone.
It's just that supporters get a few perks.

 

[Stormy]

No one is "penalize" for not supporting, they get the default package that is offered to everyone.
It's just that supporters get a few perks.

But at the time the perks were given ... money to run the site was needed. Erwin was trying not to have to use the google adds.

Then when he decided that he had to add on the adds.. the money began to pour in. Erwin said donations were not needed.

So now you are telling me at a Christian site I should have to pay for perks? That everyone is not to be treated equally? That money talks?


Does that really seem right to you?

 

[Nadiine]

http://www.leedodd.com/index.php

So this site has gone from a Christian forum, to a distinctly un-Christian forum, to a profit-based money-driven forum.

That pretty much sums up why my hopes have faded to nothing.

PJ, I've been right with you on alot of your points about the problems with this forum falling apart.

But I wouldn't be so quick to leap to a judgment about Lee as to motive of his buying this site & taking it over. Many Christians are business savvy like my husband and as Paul taught, there is nothing wrong with reaping something from your ministry.

Let's just wait and see where this goes - in my opinion of this site as of right now, it's at meltdown point. Almost any step is a better step than where we are right now.

The worst case scenario is if he went totally secular with it & most of us would just need to take the high road out of here & find a Godly forum or whatever.
Second worst case scenario is it stays exactly the same as it is now (with alot of us ready to leave if this garbage keeps up).

I know the frustrations here are very high & we're all at boiling points, but let's just give Lee some space without judging about him personally or his motives which we cannot know right now.

 

[Nadiine]

But at the time the perks were given ... money to run the site was needed. Erwin was trying not to have to use the google adds.

Then when he decided that he had to add on the adds.. the money began to pour in. Erwin said donations were not needed.

So now you are telling me at a Christian site I should have to pay for perks? That everyone is not to be treated equally? That money talks?


Does that really seem right to you?

If you don't want perks then by all means don't "buy" them, it's like buying any other service --
Lots of sites do this - they offer people a "subscription" to a site and they get benefits; it does cost money to host sites and time and work to run them and have the responsiblity of them.

Geeesh guys.

Somehow if "Christian" is put onto anything, people expect that you have to lay on your back & give all you own to everyone and not ask for a dime in return.

There's no "membership" fee here - it's not like you're forced to pay something to enjoy the site & make friendships & fellowship w/ people. It's FREE FOR YOU - is that not enough?

If he changes it to a pay membership, then get out the whip & give 39 lashes. lol

 

[Stormy]

I would be happy to start a new thread somewhere, to discuss this stuff, if someone would like to direct to the place to do so.

I'm not quite sure where that would happen though.

There is a thread in GA to discuss the changes. Have you been there?

But if you wish to speak with primarily Christians..not to many come to the "outer ghetto". Christianity seems to be more about Christians than unbelievers.

So maybe someone else can point you in the right direction.

 

[ParsonJefferson]

PJ, I've been right with you on alot of your points about the problems with this forum falling apart.

But I wouldn't be so quick to leap to a judgment about Lee as to motive of his buying this site & taking it over. Many Christians are business savvy like my husband and as Paul taught, there is nothing wrong with reaping something from your ministry.

Let's just wait and see where this goes - in my opinion of this site as of right now, it's at meltdown point. Almost any step is a better step than where we are right now.

The worst case scenario is if he went totally secular with it & most of us would just need to take the high road out of here & find a Godly forum or whatever.
Second worst case scenario is it stays exactly the same as it is now (with alot of us ready to leave if this garbage keeps up).

I know the frustrations here are very high & we're all at boiling points, but let's just give Lee some space without judging about him personally or his motives which we cannot know right now.

I'm not denying that many Christians are extremely business savvy. But are you able to find one single thing, in Lee's website, that mentions faith, or belief, or ministry? If you did, you're doing better than me.

I'm not saying he's not Christian. What I am saying is that if he's simply profit-driven, this site will continue its meltdown.

 

[Nadiine]

No one is "penalize" for not supporting, they get the default package that is offered to everyone.
It's just that supporters get a few perks.

One perk site supporters of 1 year or more should have is No reports can be made on you.
LOL

 

[Stormy]

If you don't want perks then by all means don't "buy" them, it's like buying any other service --
Lots of sites do this - they offer people a "subscription" to a site and they get benefits; it does cost money to host sites and time and work to run them and have the responsiblity of them.

Geeesh guys.

Somehow if "Christian" is put onto anything, people expect that you have to lay on your back & give all you own to everyone and not ask for a dime in return.

There's no "membership" fee here - it's not like you're forced to pay something to enjoy the site & make friendships & fellowship w/ people. It's FREE FOR YOU - is that not enough?

If he changes it to a pay membership, then get out the whip & give 39 lashes. lol

I appreciate your input, but would rather have an answer from Lee or one of the folks he chose to answer questions.

You sure are dramatic! lol

 

[ParsonJefferson]

I understand that you have a complaint, and that you also hope that your complaint is addressed. That is what we are all doing here.

But why do you feel the need to repeat yourself over and over again? That is what I do not understand.

I want two things:

1. For the staff to admit that there is a HUGE problem, and that their behavior has been part of it.

2. To see some verifiable evidence that we aren't going to simply have more of the same old same old.


So far this has not happened. To date, I have conversed with ONE STAFF MEMBER - COUNT THAT, ONE - THAT HAS BEEN DECENT AND CORDIAL. The rest have either been totally unresponsive, or have been belligerent and argumentative.

 

[Nadiine]

I'm not denying that many Christians are extremely business savvy. But are you able to find one single thing, in Lee's website, that mentions faith, or belief, or ministry? If you did, you're doing better than me.

I'm not saying he's not Christian. What I am saying is that if he's simply profit-driven, this site will continue its meltdown.

I know Christians with websites that don't have it broadcast on their sites/blogs.
It isn't what their main site is about or the main focus of.

I'm not going to judge him on something like that right up front. I'm as conservative as they come and come from a hardcore Baptist upbringing -- but I don't judge people like this due to a site.

Feel free to hang onto your suspicions and keep a watchful eye - I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong in your assessment. We just do not know & shouldn't claim we do know. I would hope people wouldn't judge me so quickly.
It doesn't make him a nonChristian or a lukewarm one by the website. I'll wait to see what happens here with some hope & prayer. Time will tell if this site is salvagable; I don't know yet.

God bless you and your love & concern for souls.

 

[Servant222]

Well, I disagree with that and I'm a Christian... so it's not as black and white as you think. Christianity is very diverse, and if it's supposed to be a site for ALL Christians, then it shouldn't treat some doctrines as better than other.

O.K.- then could you please tell us what specifically you disagree with, and provide Biblical references to support your position.


This is important and topical here because I think it is very important that LeeD has a clear statement of faith; what he and the site stands for.

My guess he will have no problem doing this, and recognizing its importance.