"Christ is King" is being used as anti-semitic language

[David Lamb]

Probably because you haven't seen the ugly ways the phrase has been used. It's not a Biblical phrase. Christ means Messiah, which literally already means king, so the phrase is completely redundant.

It is certainly clear from the bible that Christ is a king:

“Pilate therefore said to Him, "Are You a king then?" Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."” (Joh 18:37 NKJV)

 

[David Lamb]

People saying "God bless you" in ugly ways is not a huge movement of people. Saying "Christ is King" as anti-semitic language certainly does have a movement behind it. That makes all the difference in the world.

The anti-Christ movement will be subtle, not overt. You fail to see in this instance that Satan's goal is to deceive, not make all-out war. War comes later when there are barely any Christians left in the world. Think Islam is taking over the world. That's more or less how I see the anti-Christ movement. It's not direct... at first... until they hold all the cards.

Surely the context of how we use the words "Christ is king" will make it clear whether we are being anti-semitic or not. I suggest few people if any go around just saying, "Christ is king." There is usually a context. For example, a preacher may be deliver a sermon about the three office of Christ (Prophet, Priest and King). He has dealt with "Prophet" and "Priest, and then he say, "Thirdly this morning, we see that Christ is king." Nothing anti-semitic there!

 

[All Becomes New]

Surely the context of how we use the words "Christ is king" will make it clear whether we are being anti-semitic or not.

It can. But it can also not.

I suggest few people if any go around just saying, "Christ is king."

I've seen plenty. Online debates are ripe with it and you never know if it is another Jew-hater or just a normal Christian Nationalist.

 

[David Lamb]

It can. But it can also not.



I've seen plenty. Online debates are ripe with it and you never know if it is another Jew-hater or just a normal Christian Nationalist.

But that is no reason for Christians not to acknowledge the kingship of Christ. There are many things which are part of the Christian gospel which can be misused, but that doesn't mean Christians should stop saying them. If there is the slightest possibility that the hearer(s) might think the Christian is being anti-semitic, then the Christian can explain what he means by affirming the Saviour's kingship.

 

[Valletta]

It can. But it can also not.



I've seen plenty. Online debates are ripe with it and you never know if it is another Jew-hater or just a normal Christian Nationalist.

Everyone should be able to express their faith in Jesus. As to those who hate Jews, they seem quite bold (as can be seen at university campuses) and don't seem to hide behind phrases that might be ambiguous. I don't think you're going to get many takers.

 

[All Becomes New]

But that is no reason for Christians not to acknowledge the kingship of Christ. There are many things which are part of the Christian gospel which can be misused, but that doesn't mean Christians should stop saying them. If there is the slightest possibility that the hearer(s) might think the Christian is being anti-semitic, then the Christian can explain what he means by affirming the Saviour's kingship.

I am not denying His kingship and I also gave other reason not to say, "Christ is King," (one of which you even quoted). I am saying to find another way of saying it. @2PhiloVoid, mentioned "King of Kings." I mentioned "King of the Jews." Both are Biblical, taken straight out of the Bible word for word.

 

[All Becomes New]

Everyone should be able to express their faith in Jesus. As to those who hate Jews, they seem quite bold (as can be seen at university campuses) and don't seem to hide behind phrases that might be ambiguous. I don't think you're going to get many takers.

Who is saying to not express their faith in Jesus? I never said anything resembling that. "Christ is King" is ambiguous in our current culture. Every times someone says it I have to ask myself if this is another Jew-hater. King of Kings is fine, not redundant, and Biblical.

 

[Valletta]

I am not denying His kingship and I also gave other reason not to say, "Christ is King," (one of which you even quoted). I am saying to find another way of saying it. @2PhiloVoid, mentioned "King of Kings." I mentioned "King of the Jews." Both are Biblical, taken straight out of the Bible word for word.

I don't have any qualms nor do I care about any difference between saying a phrase exactly as in the Bible or using different words that express the same meaning. For example, I have no problem stating the Apostle's Creed. And if someone told me that what some Jew-haters used it would not stop me.

 

[All Becomes New]

I don't have any qualms nor do I care about any difference between saying a phrase exactly as in the Bible or using different words that express the same meaning. For example, I have no problem stating the Apostle's Creed. And if someone told me that what some Jew-haters used it would not stop me.

If the Catholic church said you could not say "Christ is King" you would stop saying it immediately.

 

[All Becomes New]

I don't think you're going to get many takers.

This is a really bad way to try to motivate me.

 

[Valletta]

If the Catholic church said you could not say "Christ is King" you would stop saying it immediately.

Please see if you can withhold your anti-Catholic bias from the discussion.

 

[Valletta]

This is a really bad way to try to motivate me.

There are a lot of us who believe in freedom of speech. And a lot of us who love Jesus.

 

[All Becomes New]

Please see if you can withhold your anti-Catholic bias from the discussion.

Only if what I said is not true. I think Catholics are wrong on some issues. I think a lot of Protestants are wrong about some issues. My point still stands, which you have not addressed.

There are a lot of us who believe in freedom of speech. And a lot of us who love Jesus.

I am not commanding anyone to do anything. And is that a threat?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

"Isn't King" ?
I can't agree.

He's King of Kings., and Lord of Lords. In other words, He's more than just a king.

 

[jmldn2]

Satan twists what already exists. Satan cannot touch the Holy. The phrase is not a holy phrase as it does not appear once in the Bible.

Christ is King Bible Verses​

John 18:37 NKJV - Pilate therefore said to Him, "Are You a king then?" Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."

Revelation 19:16 - On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

John 18:36 - Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

1 Timothy 1:17 ​

17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 6:15 ​

15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,

 

[All Becomes New]

Christ is King Bible Verses​

John 18:37 NKJV - Pilate therefore said to Him, "Are You a king then?" Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."

Revelation 19:16 - On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

John 18:36 - Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

1 Timothy 1:17 ​

17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 6:15 ​

15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,

You clearly have not read the thread.

 

[Hoping2]

Christ means Messiah in Greek.

With Jesus having so many "nom de plumes", I am happy He will respond to all of them.

 

[Hoping2]

He's King of Kings., and Lord of Lords. In other words, He's more than just a king.

A king is a king, no matter how he is viewed.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

A king is a king, no matter how he is viewed.

The point of my earlier post was to emphasize understatement. Some people do that for rhetorical effect. Maybe keep that in mind.