Chicken or the Egg?

[Wiccan_Child]

Source?

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[Wiccan_Child]

They'll just move the decimal point, and then agree with you.

While our faith moves mountains, theirs move decimal points.

Really? Moved any mountains recently?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Yawn.

Lol.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

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If UDFy-38135539 is 13 billion light years away and there is an infinite amount of space beyond that, then how old is the universe?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Really? Moved any mountains recently?

Science has always had difficulty with mountains moving, contintental drift, and expanding earth; it seems only faith in Expanding Earth or God allows for mountians to move.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

If UDFy-38135539 is 13 billion light years away and there is an infinite amount of space beyond that, then how old is the universe?

The scientific consensus is that the universe is at least 13.7 billion years old, and has expanded from a singularity to its current size and shape over that time. It is a popular misconception that this means the universe is a sphere 13.7 billion lightyears in radius - its volume is, in fact, much larger, and its edge is of unknown topology

Science has always had difficulty with mountains moving, contintental drift, and expanding earth; it seems only faith in Expanding Earth or God allows for mountians to move.

We know how mountains and continents move and change through natural processes, thanks to science. These phenomena are no more difficult than any other well-established fact in science.

AV, however, believes his faith moves mountains. Somehow, I'm sceptical.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

It is a popular misconception that this means the universe is a sphere 13.7 billion lightyears in radius - its volume is, in fact, much larger, and its edge is of unknown topology

Anything else God has told you that you'd like to share with us?

 

[Delphiki]

Anything else God has told you that you'd like to share with us?

Not God. It's what simply looking at things shows us. I don't believe my car is purple because God told me so. I believe it's purple because it's purple when I look at it. That's really how simple science really is, you know.

BTW, glad to see we talked you out of the ancient deprecated quotes. It shows you may actually be capable of learning something.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Not God.

So the atheist deity known as "Not Got" told you?

It's what simply looking at things shows us.

Not us: you.

Please don't include me in your us.

You've been looking through the wrong end of the telescope with the lenscap still on and telling us what you imagine you see. Do you see gravitons, black holes, and invisible pink unicorns?

Simply looking shows me the Big Bang is a joke.

"If you want to find evidence refuting Big Bang Theory, just point a telescope at the sky!" -- Tom Van Flandern, astronomer, 1993

I don't believe my car is purple because God told me so. I believe it's purple because it's purple when I look at it. That's really how simple science really is, you know.

So when a colorblind madman in a lunatic asylum says the sky is pink and green polkadots, you call that science?

 

[Nostromo]

So when a colorblind madman in a lunatic asylum says the sky is pink and green polkadots, you call that science?

We call that AoS.

Is it part of a study into mental health or colourblindness? If that is genuinely the way he perceives the world then it tells us something about his mental functions.

That said, spouting nonsense like you and this madman do isn't science on its own, no. Delphiki was just trying to illustrate that science isn't some weird kind of voodoo, in essence it is looking at the world in a methodical way.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Anything else God has told you that you'd like to share with us?

I'm curious as to why God would be masquerading as interstellar spectra...

 

[GrowingSmaller]

I have heard of the cosmic egg but not the cosmic chicken.

Cosmic egg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

I'm curious as to why God would be masquerading as interstellar spectra...

I think you'll have to ask God that question when you see Him...

 

[Wiccan_Child]

I think you'll have to ask God that question when you see Him...

If God exists, and I have the chance to question him, I'll have rather more important things to ask him

 

[AV1611VET]

If God exists, and I have the chance to question him, I'll have rather more important things to ask him

Let's hope the venue isn't the Great White Throne Judgment.

I can see an evolutionist standing there and starting to present all his evidence on why he believed what he believed, and God says, 'Show Me'; and the evolutionist turns around, only to find...

Revelation 20:11 ¶ And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Not even his evidence will stand by him in 'court'.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Let's hope the venue isn't the Great White Throne Judgment.

I can see an evolutionist standing there and starting to present all his evidence on why he believed what he believed, and God says, 'Show Me'; and the evolutionist turns around, only to find...

Revelation 20:11 ¶ And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Not even his evidence will stand by him in 'court'.

Why would God care whether someone is an evolutionists or a creationist? You have to believe in Christ, not specifically YEC, to be saved.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would God care whether someone is an evolutionists or a creationist? You have to believe in Christ, not specifically YEC, to be saved.

This is very true -- that's why I said, "Let's hope..."

The point of my post, is that, when the time comes, there will be no physical evidence being presented as to why someone didn't get saved.

Many people have the attitude, "If God exists, He and I are gonna have a long talk."

And that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

This is very true -- that's why I said, "Let's hope..."

The point of my post, is that, when the time comes, there will be no physical evidence being presented as to why someone didn't get saved.

Many people have the attitude, "If God exists, He and I are gonna have a long talk."

And that ain't gonna happen.

Why not? Is God above conversation?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why not? Is God above conversation?

He won't need to explain it -- they'll know beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Let me give you two examples we use to illustrate this:

In the story of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16), you don't see the rich man wondering why he ended up in Hell. Although he was a religious man (he called Abraham 'Father Abraham'), he doesn't ask Abraham why he ended up where he ended up. Instead, twice he begs Abraham to "send" someone to witness to his lost brothers.

In the story of the man who shows up at the feast without the proper attire, he is cast out, fully-aware of why he is being ejected.

Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

 

[Nostromo]

I doubt Allah will take kindly to you quoting the corrupted version of the Injil.