Certainty Jesus Returns No Later than 2023

[watchfulChristian]

Generally, yes. Specifically, (day and hour) no.

Generally no, way too vague. God is specific. Satan is vague. We know the Tribulation starts on Feast of Trumpets. All that matters is to determine what year. Since the Tribulation can't start before the great earthquake, unique solar and lunar eclipses, we know the Tribulation can't start before 2015. Nor can it start after 2016 because 2023 is 75 years (Ps. 90.10) from when Israel became a nation and that Jesus would return "right at the door" (Matt. 24.32,33). Surely not more than a lifetime.

Since there are seven sets of seven from June 7, 1967 to Day of Atonement Sept. 23, 2015 (17,640 days) we know 2015 is the year. It is also a Jubilee year and a Sabbath year. It is also the year there are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 (not so for 2016-23), the day Jesus steps down on the mount of olives, judges the nations for 30 days from the 1260th to 1290th day, and then sets up Israel as the center of all nations on the 1335th day. In 2023 the 1335th day is mid November not near Tabernacles and Simchat Torah at all.

It's so obvious. What more proof would one need?

 

[Markusanthem]

That the Tribulation is 2,520 days doesn't mean the Antichrist is in the Temple at the start of the 2,520 days. He reigns in the Temple the second half of the Tribulation 1260 days. Just as all of Daniel's sevens were 2,520 days each, so too is the 70th seven. Wake up!

There is no scripture that says the tribulation is 2520 days.

There is no scripture that says the antichrist reigns in the Temple during the second half of the tribulation.

This is an error in your understanding.

 

[Markusanthem]

Generally no, way too vague. God is specific. Satan is vague. We know the Tribulation starts on Feast of Trumpets.

This is not true.

The return of Christ on the clouds with the immortal church will be during the Feast of Trumpets.

All that matters is to determine what year. Since the Tribulation can't start before the great earthquake, unique solar and lunar eclipses, we know the Tribulation can't start before 2015.

The tetrad on feast days starts in the Spring (Passover) of 2014.

Since there seven sets of seven from June 7, 1967 to Day of Atonement Sept. 23, 2015 (17,640 days) we know 2015 is the year. It is also a Jubilee year and a Sabbath year.

This is impossible to know. They stopped counting Jubilees a long time ago.

 

[watchfulChristian]

There is no scripture that says the tribulation is 2520 days.

There is no scripture that says the antichrist reigns in the Temple during the second half of the tribulation.

This is an error in your understanding.

Of course there. is Matt. 24.15 refers to "in the middle of the 7 years" (Dan. 9.27).

Of course the Bible says the Antichrist reigns in the second half: "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thess. 2.4). "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand" (Matt. 24.15). "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months" (Rev. 13.5).

The error is in your heart.

 

[Markusanthem]

Of course there. is Matt. 24.15 refers to "in the middle of the 7 years" (Dan. 9.27).

Of course the Bible says the Antichrist reigns in the second half: "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thess. 2.4). "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand" (Matt. 24.15). "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months" (Rev. 13.5).

The error is in your heart.

The abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel is found in Daniel 11. It refers to the Roman desolation of Israel. It specifically says that this occurs before the time of the end; that the time of the end is yet for a time appointed.

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.


Matt 24:15 does not refer to "the middle of the seven years" at all.

Daniel 9 is only about Israel, Jerusalem and Jesus. The 70th week is only about Jesus and the New Covenant. The antichrist isn't even in it.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[watchfulChristian]

The return of Christ on the clouds with the immortal church will be during the Feast of Trumpets.

Jesus is not on earth during the start of the Tribulation nor on earth for they 7 years. No. He returns at the end of the Tribulation to step down onthe mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7, 19.11-16), at the end of armaggedon, on the 2,520th day. At the start of the 7th trumpet He meets the saints in the air in the general rapture and resurrection (Rev. 11.15, 1 Thess. 4.14-18). The 7th trumpet starts Aug. 20, 2020 and lasts for 24 months (since the 5th trumpet is 5 months, 6th trumpet is 13 months). Feast of Trumpest is Sept. 14, 2015. You're confused. The first rapture is Feast of Trumpets of just those ovecomers alive at the time who kept the word of His patience, were watchful and prayerful (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10).

The tetrad on feast days starts in the Spring (Passover) of 2014.

That's right and the Tetrad is before the Tribulation starts since Rev. 6.12 occurs before the first rapture (7.9) and 1st trumpet (8.7), and Joel 2.31 says it is before the great and terrible day of the Lord.

This is impossible to know. They stopped counting Jubilees a long time ago.

It's easy to know when the Jubilees were and it has been calculated. Once you know when you can just keep adding 50 years each time. The 120th Jubilee is 2015 to make a total of 6000 years (120 x 50). Jews also say it is a Sabbath year. And we know there are seven sets of seven from June 7, 1967 to Sept. 23, 2015 Day of Atonement. Easy. 17,640 days.

 

[Markusanthem]

Jesus is not on earth during the start of the Tribulation nor on earth for they 7 years. No. He returns at the end of the Tribulation to step down onthe mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7, 19.11-16), at the end of armaggedon, on the 2,520th day. At the start of the 7th trumpet He meets the saints in the air in the general rapture and resurrection (Rev. 11.15, 1 Thess. 4.14-18). The 7th trumpet starts Aug. 20, 2020 and lasts for 24 months (since the 5th trumpet is 5 months, 6th trumpet is 13 months). Feast of Trumpest is Sept. 14, 2015. You're confused. The first rapture is Feast of Trumpets of just those ovecomers alive at the time who kept the word of His patience, were watchful and prayerful (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10).

Jesus said that the tribulation is over before the wrath begins. You are confused about the scriptural difference between tribulation and wrath.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

That's right and the Tetrad is before the Tribulation starts since Rev. 6.12 occurs before the first rapture (7.9) and 1st trumpet (8.7), and Joel 2.31 says it is before the great and terrible day of the Lord.

You do not know that the tetrad will bring the rapture, although I suspect the rapture will occur by 2015. The tetrads, so far, are about Israel.

It's easy to know when the Jubilees were and it has been calculated. Once you know when you can just keep adding 50 years each time. The 120th Jubilee is 2015 to make a total of 6000 years (120 x 50). Jews also say it is a Sabbath year. And we know there are seven sets of seven from June 7, 1967 to Sept. 23, 2015 Day of Atonement. Easy. 17,640 days.

There is no way to determine that 2015 is the year 6000.
The Jubilee is the 50th year, scripturally, not the 49th.

 

[dana b]

Understand your flawed thinking. You violate Scripture, for the great earthquake, unique solar eclipse and unique lunar eclipse (Joel 2.31, Rev. 6.12) before the first trumpet (8.7) of the Tribulation would have had to have occurred before the year 2000 if what you say is true Dana B, so you know your thinking is false.

The Sun and the Moon darkened and like blood means the Covenenant of Chritianity and the Old Testement Covenant of the Law are darkened. It is a prediction of how Jesus's two Christian commandments and the law of Justice are today being cast aside by so many. The darkening of these two covenants is what these scriptures mean.

Here is a chart showing these things.

 

[watchfulChristian]

The abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel is found in Daniel 11. It refers to the Roman desolation of Israel. It specifically says that this occurs before the time of the end; that the time of the end is yet for a time appointed.

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

No, the abomination of desolation is that which is placed in the Temple and there are 2,520 days in which the abomination is placed during the middle of the 70th seven. How strange the 69 sevens are 2,520 days each but not the 70th seven. No 7 year period occurred in history during 70 AD.

Daniel 11 is about Antiochus IV and some allusion to the Tribulation at the end of this age.

Matt 24:15 does not refer to "the middle of the seven years" at all.

Daniel 9 is only about Israel, Jerusalem and Jesus. The 70th week is only about Jesus and the New Covenant. The antichrist isn't even in it.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

"He shall confirm a covenant with many for one unit of seven, and in the middle he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" (Dan. 9.27). Jesus wouldn't do this. Jesus does not make desolate. Satan does. Jesus returns to stop such evil.

If what you say were true then transgressions would have ended according to Dan. 9.24.

 

[Markusanthem]

The Sun and the Moon darkened and like blood means the Covenenant of Chritianity and the Old Testement Covenant of the Law are darkened. It is a prediction of how Jesus's two Christian commandments and the law of Justice are today being cast aside by so many. The darkening of these two covenants is what these scriptures mean.

Here is a chart showing these things.

Allegorically, it might mean that but given all the astronomical anomalies in Revelation, the actual sun and actual moon are going to be darkened.

Matthew and Revelation are speaking about actual events, not allegories.

 

[Markusanthem]

No, the abomination of desolation is that which is placed in the Temple and there are 2,520 days in which the abomination is placed during the middle of the 70th seven. How strange the 69 sevens are 2,520 days each but not the 70th seven. No 7 year period occurred in history during 70 AD.

Daniel 11 is about Antiochus IV and some allusion to the Tribulation at the end of this age.


"He shall confirm a covenant with many for one unit of seven, and in the middle he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" (Dan. 9.27). Jesus wouldn't do this. Jesus does not make desolate. Satan does. Jesus returns to stop such evil.

If what you say were true then transgressions would have ended according to Dan. 9.24.

No, there is no scripture that says the 70th week has anything to do with the abomination of desolation that Jesus mentioned in Matt 24, referring to Daniel 11.

Daniel 9 doesn't even mention "the abomination of desolation".

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Daniel 11:
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

 

[watchfulChristian]

Jesus said that the tribulation is over before the wrath begins. You are confused about the scriptural difference between tribulation and wrath.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The Tribulation is over before the wrath begins? Funny. Read Rev. 15 & 16 and observe the wrath taking place in that future period of the 7 bowls of wrath.

The reason why the last 2,520 days is the Tribulation because indeed it is Tribulation. Even before it starts in the 6th Seal people are hiding in caves. Rev. 8 is the first 4 trumpets that hurt the earth. The last 3 trumpets in Rev. 9-11 hurt and kill people.

Rev. 9.18 says 1/3 of people are killed in nuclear holocaust and you say this is avoided?

You do not know that the tetrad will bring the rapture, although I suspect the rapture will occur by 2015. The tetrads, so far, are about Israel.

There is no way to determine that 2015 is the year 6000.
The Jubilee is the 50th year, scripturally, not the 49th.

Of course the Tetrad brings the rapture since Joel 2.31 and Rev. 6.12 occur right before the Tribulation starts. The Tribulation's seven years impacts not just Israel but the whole world, but the focus is on Israel once the first rapture takes place.

It has already been calculated how we know the 120th Jubilee is 2015 which is 6000 years. Just do a search on Google for the "3986 BC 120 Jubilees". Stop shutting your mind down. The Jubilee is the 50th year not the 49th year.

 

[watchfulChristian]

No, there is no scripture that says the 70th week has anything to do with the abomination of desolation that Jesus mentioned in Matt 24, referring to Daniel 11.

Daniel 9 doesn't even mention the abomination of desolation.

Read Dan. 9.27 "overspreading of abominations". Jesus confirmed it: "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand" (Matt .24.15).

Dan. 11 is talking about Antiochus IV as well as some further allusion to the Tribulation.

Paul confirms: "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thess. 2.4).

The False Prophet actually erects an idol of the Antichrist in the Temple to honor him: "he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. He had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev. 13.15).

What an abomination!

 

[Markusanthem]

"He shall confirm a covenant with many for one unit of seven, and in the middle he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" (Dan. 9.27). Jesus wouldn't do this. Jesus does not make desolate. Satan does. Jesus returns to stop such evil.

If what you say were true then transgressions would have ended according to Dan. 9.24.

No, it doesn't say what you said it does. I'll copy and paste it for you:

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


It is Jesus/God who sent the Romans to destroy Israel.

Isaiah 47:“Sit in silence, go into darkness,
Daughter of the Babylonians;
no more will you be called
queen of kingdoms.
6 I was angry with my people
and desecrated my inheritance;
I gave them into your hand,
and you showed them no mercy.
Even on the aged
you laid a very heavy yoke.

Matt 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

 

[watchfulChristian]

No, it doesn't say what you said it does. I'll copy and paste it for you:

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Read it again, it doesn't say what you said it says. This seventieth seven is 2,520 days like the 69 sevens were each. There was no 2,520 day period in 70 AD.

It is Jesus/God who sent the Romans to destroy Israel.

Isaiah 47:“Sit in silence, go into darkness,
Daughter of the Babylonians;
no more will you be called
queen of kingdoms.
6 I was angry with my people
and desecrated my inheritance;
I gave them into your hand,
and you showed them no mercy.
Even on the aged
you laid a very heavy yoke.

Matt 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Jesus never made a covenant with anyone for 1 week in 70 AD. Jesus was in 3rd heaven. Jesus doesn't destroy the Temple. The Romans did.

Matt. 22 is talking about the millennial kingdom. The millennial kingdom didn't arrive 70 AD. How silly.

 

[Markusanthem]

Read it again, it doesn't say what you said it says. This seventieth seven is 2,520 days like the 69 sevens were each. There was no 2,520 day period in 70 AD.

The 70th week has nothing to do with the abomination of desolation.

Jesus never made a covenant with anyone for 1 week in 70 AD. Jesus was in 3rd heaven. Jesus doesn't destroy the Temple. The Romans did.

The 70th week has nothing to do with 70AD.

Jesus/God said he sent the armies to destroy the temple/city.

Matt. 22 is talking about the millennial kingdom. The millennial kingdom didn't arrive 70 AD. How silly.

So, in your mind, the Jews killed the people God sent during the millennium???


Matt 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


No, Jesus said that Israel would be desolated because of these things:

Matt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

 

[watchfulChristian]

"And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city" (Dan. 9.26).

The Romans are not the people of Jesus. How silly.

 

[Markusanthem]

"And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city" (Dan. 9.26).

The Romans are not the people of Jesus. How silly.

You might think it's silly, but God is the One who said it.


Isaiah 47:“Sit in silence, go into darkness,
Daughter of the Babylonians;
no more will you be called
queen of kingdoms.
6 I was angry with my people
and desecrated my inheritance;
I gave them into your hand,
and you showed them no mercy.
Even on the aged
you laid a very heavy yoke.

Matt 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Markusanthem]

Do you know why God sent the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple?

Think about it. What kingdom that destroyed God's people can be called "daughter of the babylonians"?

 

[watchfulChristian]

The 70th week has nothing to do with the abomination of desolation.

The abomination has everything to do with the 70th seven, the last seven of Daniel's sevens.

The 70th week has nothing to do with 70AD. Jesus/God said he sent the armies to destroy the temple/city.

Jesus never said He sent armies to destroy the Temple, but He certainly allowed it to take place. I am glad you now agree the 70th seven has nothing to do with 70 AD, but "the people of the" future "prince [Antichrist] that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary" (Dan. 9.26) does refer to 70 AD.

So, in your mind, the Jews killed the people God sent during the millennium???

Those who did not get to enter the millennium though saved lose this reward to reign for 1000 years. Matt. 22.7 was fulfilled 70 AD since the Jews rejected God.

Matt 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


No, Jesus said that Israel would be desolated because of these things:

Matt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

v.8 "They that were bidden were not worthy"—Those that were bidden were obviously the Jews, but simply because they have rejected the invitation does not mean that the abundance of God is going to be wasted. He will give it to others.

Dan. 9.26 is 70 AD. Dan. 9.27 is the Tribulation.