Certainty Jesus Returns No Later than 2023

[dana b]

Oh good grief - the latest empty Futuristic speculation. First it was 40 years (a generation) after the formation of modern day Israel in 1948. 1948 + 40 = 1988. 1988 came and went and was selectively forgotten.

Next it was stated that the "correct" starting date was actually 1967 with the capture of Jerusalem. So 1967 + 40= 2007. This also came and went - and was forgotten. Now it is 1948 + 75 years (the new generation definition) so this will be in 2023. What happened to the "Correct" starting date of 1967? Maybe the next speculation will be 75 years after the 1967 war which equals 2042.

With a negative credibility rating why would anyone believe this stuff. Not one futuristic speculation has come to pass in the last 60 years despite the fact that there are thousands of them.

Best not to put dates on speculations, but rather try to keep them all in the future where you cannot be proven to be wrong.

The 40 years is determined as a generation when God led the tribes of Israel around the desert for 40 years saying that he needed the generation who had seen the bad things in Egypt to die out.

The 40 years are again duplicated for the second Christian covenant during our "hour of temptation." Rev.3;10 When a day equals a thousand years then each of it's 24 "hours" is equal to 40 years. Our 40 years of temptation began in 2000AD according to these calculations.

 

[watchfulChristian]

Yes, the 2520 days do also interpret as "2520 years" according to Daniel. See the chart below;

No. Your 586 and 4 year adjustment are totally ad hoc. Never use the 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av converted into your year-day theory. Big no no!

As a result you have come up with the crazy idea only the 1st half of the Tribulation is completed by 2022. No! Jesus steps down on the mount of olives 2022 at the end of the Tribulation, the end of the 2,520 days.

The very lay man knows if there is 900 billion barrels of oil left in the world, according to industry reports, at 100 million a day on average, it is all used up by 2035, so a war over oil to control of the flow of oil in the middle east will occur a good 15 years before that rather than at the last drop. Hence the 6th and 7th trumpets of the Tribulation are from Aug. 20, 2020 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 when Jesus steps down.

 

[watchfulChristian]

The 40 years is determined as a generation when God led the tribes of Israel around the desert for 40 years saying that he needed the generation who had seen the bad things in Egypt to die out.

The 40 years are again duplicated for the second Christian covenant during our "hour of temptation." Rev.3;10 When a day equals a thousand years then each of it's 24 "hours" is equal to 40 years. Our 40 years of temptation began in 2000AD according to these calculations.

That's nonsense. Like I said when you apply the year day theory you make ridiculous claims.

1000 years / 40 = 25 not 24. Funny.

Any war that occurs to end all wars will occur long before 2035 the last drop of conventional oil.

Nothing began 2000 AD. The 120th Jubilee is 2015 not 2000 since the Jubilees started 3986 when Adam was the age of accountability at 18 years old and was born 4004 BC when you add up the ages in the Bible to derive that date.

Your dates violate the Jubilees.

Don't feel too bad. Isaac Newton made the same mistakes with the silly year day theory.

 

[watchfulChristian]

Understand the reasoning. "Right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) once the "branch is tender" (v.32) Israel a nation again. None of those other prophecies fit. "Right at the door" is within a lifetime, and Ps. 90.10 says a lifetime is 70 to 80 years, not 40 years. Read your Bible.

Hence, 2023 is at the latest, but as the proof shows in the opening post we can actually narrow it down the Tribulation from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 for 2,520 days to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022. We can know the day just not the hour.

Simple. None of those other prophecies are allowed because the 3 events must occur before Daniel's final seven begins: great earthquake (2010/11), unique solar eclipse (Nov. 3, 2013), unique lunar ecipse (2014/15) according to Rev. 6.12, Joel 2.31.

 

[watchfulChristian]

7000 years makes sense, 4000 under the law, 2000 years church age, 1000 millennial kingdom. Proper proportions and exponential like our exponential progression of conscience. This can mean a day is a thousand years in that context, but 2,520 days is not 2.52 million years, nor is 360 days 360,000 years. God forbid it would take that long.

You silly silly people.

 

[dana b]

That's nonsense. Like I said when you apply the year day theory you make ridiculous claims.

1000 years / 40 = 25 not 24. Funny.

Any war that occurs to end all wars will occur long before 2035 the last drop of conventional oil.

Nothing began 2000 AD. The 120th Jubilee is 2015 not 2000 since the Jubilees started 3986 when Adam was the age of accountability at 18 years old and was born 4004 BC when you add up the ages in the Bible to derive that date.

Your dates violate the Jubilees.

Don't feel too bad. Isaac Newton made the same mistakes with the silly year day theory.

Your Jubilees were written and prescribed for the Old Testament people who lived under the ordinances of the Moon. They lived in the night.

But we Christians have been practicing following Jesus's light for the entire 2000 "times of the Gentiles." Lk.21;24 They were living in the night. The first covenant Law is just a shadow of good things to come. Paul called the old Tesament with it's Jubillee counts as a school to prepare us for Jesus's Christianity.

Compared to what the Old Testament scribes and pharases knew, we today's Christians can calculate much more than that. We follow the law from within as foretold in Jer.31;31. We follow our Christian conscience and thereby develope our consciousness much more that the old law followers. Jesus taught us that when you follow your conscience, the law from your mind and heart, then your consciousness will increase. You will be truly called the "son of man." For you would be the finial generation produced by six millennias of Civilization beginning from Adam. You would be the "second Adam," and Eve.

ps. The day equals year formula that the Apostle Peter gave to us Christian Bible readers was important. It matches our Christian Calendar which begins from Jesus. Look how well it corresponds God's seven Genesis days to mankinds history from Adam until now! When you examine this with a historians knowledge you see that it was pre designed by God, not by men.

 

[watchfulChristian]

Also the branch is tender no later than 1948 as the Jews were already returning several decades before 1948. The branch is not tender 1967. That's 18 years. If anything 1967 is the leaves showing, not the tender branch.

 

[NumberOneSon]

The very lay man knows if there is 900 billion barrels of oil left in the world, according to industry reports, at 100 million a day on average, it is all used up by 2035...

Troy's back.

JimBack: “The 900 billion barrels of oil left in the world at an average of 100 million barrels a day runs out in 2035.”

 

[watchfulChristian]

Your Jubilees were written and prescribed for the Old Testament people who lived under the ordinances of the Moon. They lived in the night.

Goofy comment.

But we Christians have been practicing following Jesus's light for the entire 2000 "times of the Gentiles." Lk.21;24 They were living in the night. The first covenant Law is just a shadow of good things to come. Paul called the old Tesament with it's Jubillee counts as a school to prepare us for Jesus's Christianity.

It's all a rehearsal.

Compared to what the Old Testament scribes and pharases knew, we today's Christians can calculate much more than that. We follow the law from within as foretold in Jer.31;31. We follow our Christian conscience and thereby develope our consciousness much more that the old law followers. Jesus taught us that when you follow your conscience, the law from your mind and heart, then your consciousness will increase. You will be truly called the "son of man." For you would be the finial generation produced by six millennias of Civilization beginning from Adam. You would be the "second Adam," and Eve.

Ezekiel knew when Israel would become a nation again on his side for 390 days which brings us to exactly May, 1948. Only Jesus is the Son of Man, the only begotten Son. Jesus is the second Adam, and you sound like a Mormon. At least know this when the first rapture occurs Sept. 14, 2015 you will reject it, accusing the brethren day and night and when Jesus steps down Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 you will confuse Him for another. Your year-day theory is a product of another Christ.

The day equals year formula that the Apostle Peter gave to us Christian Bible readers was important. It matches our Christian Calendar which begins from Jesus. Look how well it corresponds God's seven Genesis days to mankinds history from Adam until now! When you examine this with a historians knowledge you see that it was pre designed by God, not by men.

Peter never gave us the year day theory as you use it.

The contradiction you face is there would then be 2,520,000 years before Jesus returns. Silly.

 

[watchfulChristian]

Who had the audacity to call himself the number one son above Jesus?

 

[watchfulChristian]

Understand your flawed thinking. You violate Scripture, for the great earthquake, unique solar eclipse and unique lunar eclipse (Joel 2.31, Rev. 6.12) before the first trumpet (8.7) of the Tribulation would have had to have occurred before the year 2000 if what you say is true Dana B, so you know your thinking is false.

 

[watchfulChristian]

Will Jesus return within 75 years from when Israel became a nation (by 2023 at the latest)? Yes,

• because 75 years is within a lifetime (Ps. 90.10);
• because Abraham entered the promise land at 75 (Gen. 12.5);
• because "you know the summer is near" (Matt. 24.32) when the "fig tree...branch is tender" (v.32);
• Ezekiel's prophecy on his side for 390 days takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel became a nation again;
• thus, you "know that it is near, even at the doors" (v.33).

Can we narrow down the time of the Tribulation and when Jesus returns? Yes,

• because before the great and terrible day of the Lord (Joel 2.31, Rev. 6.12) there is a great earthquake (2010/11), unique solar eclipse (Nov. 3, 2013) and unique lunar eclipse (2014/15);
• thus, the Tribulation can start no sooner than 2015.

How do we get even more exact for the time the Tribulation starts?

• Each year there are from Feast of Trumpets 2,520 (Dan. 9.27, 12.7, Rev. 12.6) days to Tisha B'Av or 2,550 (Dan. 12.11) days to Day of Atonement;
• there are 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from the day before Passover to Tisha B'Av from 2016 to 2022 and for 2017 to 2023;
• thus, we know the Tribulation starts on Feast of Trumpets either Sept. 14, 2015 or Oct. 3, 2016.

Which year does the Tribulation start?

• There are seven sets of seven from June 7, 1967 (double fulfilment of Dan. 9.25) when Israel became a nation to the Day of Atonement June 23, 2015 (total of 17,640 days);
• when Jesus returns, He judges the nations for 30 days from the 1260th to the 1290th day;
• 2015 is a Jubilee year once every 50 years and it is a Sabbath year once every seven years (these years are confirmed going back to the start of the first Jubilee which was 3986 BC when Adam was 18 years old;
• thus, the Tribulation must start on Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14 in 2015.

What day does Jesus step down on the mount of olives?

• Jesus would step down on the 2,520th day which would be Aug. 7, 2022.

 

[watchfulChristian]

The 1335th day (Oct. 21, 2022, Dan. 12.12) is the 4th day from Simchat Torah, the last of Israel's holidays, just after Tabernacles is done in 2022, but not for 2023;

 

[gods prophetess]

NO ONE KNOWS WHEN HE WILL RETURN NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN KNOW FROM WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS ME

 

[ViaCrucis]

No.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[NumberOneSon]

Who had the audacity to call himself the number one son above Jesus?

LOL, yeah its Troy.

 

[watchfulChristian]

NO ONE KNOWS WHEN HE WILL RETURN NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN KNOW FROM WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS ME

Jesus returns before the millennial kingdom starts not at the end of it. Noone knows when the end of the world is (Matt. 24.35,36) and nobody could know when Jesus returns prior to 1948, but now we know. Actually if a person was discerning enough with Ezekiel's prophecy about when Israel would become a nation again and they could determine when the Tetrads occur they could know when Jesus returns.

 

[Markusanthem]

Jesus appears at the end of the 7 year Tribulation, and the Tribulation starts with the first rapture to 3rd heaven "before the throne" (7.9) before the 1st trumpet (8.7) of the Tribulation begins. There was no rapture, according to readiness, in 2006, 2007 or 2008. It would have been on the news.

Before the great and terrible day of the Lord (Joel 2.31) 3 events must occur before the Tribulation starst: 1) great earthquake, 2) unique solar eclipse, 3) unique lunar ecipse in that precise order (Rev. 6.12). None of these happened in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009.

The devil only gets 42 months. period.

Revelation 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

 

[Markusanthem]

Jesus returns before the millennial kingdom starts not at the end of it. Noone knows when the end of the world is (Matt. 24.35,36) and nobody could know when Jesus returns prior to 1948, but now we know. Actually if a person was discerning enough with Ezekiel's prophecy about when Israel would become a nation again and they could determine when the Tetrads occur they could know when Jesus returns.

Generally, yes. Specifically, (day and hour) no.

 

[watchfulChristian]

The devil only gets 42 months. period.

Revelation 13:And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

That the Tribulation is 2,520 days doesn't mean the Antichrist is in the Temple at the start of the 2,520 days. He reigns in the Temple the second half of the Tribulation 1260 days. Just as all of Daniel's sevens were 2,520 days each, so too is the 70th seven. Wake up!