Catalyst to the Russian War.

[Bobber]

the 10 horns exist but do not have to be publicly known, then Mystery Babylon is attacked & taken over, then the 10 horns receive power to become 10 kings with the 11th horn.

Rev 17

12And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. 13These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast.​

I'm curious to what people think about this. Is this the globe separated into 10 regions or rather something like just the European nations or Middle Eastern ones?

 

[Bobber]

Christians are people from every tribe, kindred, tongues, and peoples - including Jews.

Most Jews though have not embraced Jesus or the gospel. Those Jews, Israel, will believe in Jesus and the gospel in the middle of the 7 years. Ezekiel 38-39 takes place before the 7 years begin.

That the Jews, Israel, embrace the Jesus and the gospel is in Revelation 12:10, after the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6, which itself is followed by the war in the second heaven and Satan cast down to earth Revelation 12:7-9, having a time, times, half time left.



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What does it mean on your chart the rapture takes place before the TOD act?

 

[Douggg]

What does it mean on your chart the rapture takes place before the TOD act?

The rapture can happen "anytime", but it has to be before the ToD act. The ToD term comes from Daniel 8:13.

The ToD (transgression of desolation) act is when the Antichrist goes into the temple, sits, and claims to have achieved God-hood. Revealing the Antichrist to be the man of sin (and not the messiah as the Jews will mistakenly think following Gog/Magog). It is the 2Thessalonians2:4 act, that triggers the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

It is different from the AoD thing setup to be worshiped, placed in the temple. One is an act, the other is a thing, a statue idol.

They are closely related though because the AoD is made of the slain and come back to life revealed man of sin. God will have the revealed man of sin killed for his claim to have achieved God-hood. It is in Ezekiel 28:1-10. The prince of tyre is merely a code name for the person. As the king of tyre, in the same chapter, is a code name for Satan.

Anyway, the act by the Antichrist, begins the Day of the Lord. In 1Thessalonians5, a continuation of 1Thessalonians4, the rapture chapter, God's wrath takes place when the Day of the Lord begins (note the Day of the Lord lasts for eternity, so it is only talking about the beginning years).

We cannot pinpoint when during the 7 years the ToD takes place, as far as an exact day on a chart like we can with the AoD (1335 days before Jesus returns)

In 1Thessalonians5, it says Christians have not been appointed to wrath, that will take place when the Day of the Lord begins. Which the rapture verses are in 1Thessalonians5:9-11. If you look at my chart, you will also see I have shown them saying peace and safety (because the Jews and the world will mistakenly think they have entered the messiah age at the time) ahead of the ToD act.

1Thessalonians5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

 

[Dave L]

Do you know how many have died in Russia by the K.G.B?

Executions in prisons and concentration camps, an estimated 40 MILLION people.

You are to pray for leaders, not misrepresent them from the bible, or incite bombing them.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Do you know how many have died in Russia by the K.G.B?

Executions in prisons and concentration camps, an estimated 40 MILLION people.

KGB was established 1954. They hardly had time to finish off 40 million of their own people during the cold war.

 

[Bobber]

The rapture can happen "anytime", but it has to be before the ToD act. The ToD term comes from Daniel 8:13.

The ToD (transgression of desolation) act is when the Antichrist goes into the temple, sits, and claims to have achieved God-hood. Revealing the Antichrist to be the man of sin (and not the messiah as the Jews will mistakenly think following Gog/Magog). It is the 2Thessalonians2:4 act, that triggers the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

It is different from the AoD thing setup to be worshiped, placed in the temple. One is an act, the other is a thing, a statue idol.

They are closely related though because the AoD is made of the slain and come back to life revealed man of sin. God will have the revealed man of sin killed for his claim to have achieved God-hood. It is in Ezekiel 28:1-10. The prince of tyre is merely a code name for the person. As the king of tyre, in the same chapter, is a code name for Satan.

Anyway, the act by the Antichrist, begins the Day of the Lord. In 1Thessalonians5, a continuation of 1Thessalonians4, the rapture chapter, God's wrath takes place when the Day of the Lord begins (note the Day of the Lord lasts for eternity, so it is only talking about the beginning years).

We cannot pinpoint when during the 7 years the ToD takes place, as far as an exact day on a chart like we can with the AoD (1335 days before Jesus returns)

In 1Thessalonians5, it says Christians have not been appointed to wrath, that will take place when the Day of the Lord begins. Which the rapture verses are in 1Thessalonians5:9-11. If you look at my chart, you will also see I have shown them saying peace and safety (because the Jews and the world will mistakenly think they have entered the messiah age at the time) ahead of the ToD act.

1Thessalonians5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Thanks for explaining it. Going back to your chart I now see you did have it explained further down.

 

[keras]

I'm curious to what people think about this. Is this the globe separated into 10 regions or rather something like just the European nations or Middle Eastern ones?

google: ten world regions.
Daniel 7:23 makes it quite clear that the end times government will be worldwide.

 

[tranquil]

I'm curious to what people think about this. Is this the globe separated into 10 regions or rather something like just the European nations or Middle Eastern ones?

When Mystery Babylon is burned by the 10 horns, it becomes a 'prison'. Revelation 18:2
Revelation 18:2 Interlinear: and he did cry in might -- a great voice, saying, 'Fall, fall did Babylon the great, and she became a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird,

1st comes the abomination idol, which starts the apostasy/ rebellion/ 'transgression', which causes the wrath of God at the 6th Seal, starting 1335 days of transgression. (the 6th King of Revelation 17:10)

45 days later, Mystery Babylon is burned (Revelation 17:16) which occurs at the 2nd Trumpet: the 'burning mountain' is a reference to Babylon burning (Jeremiah 51:24-25). The people of the prince to come destroys the 'city' (10 kings have burned Babylon) (the 7th king of Revelation 17:10 punishes the 6th king). (city & sanctuary of Daniel 9:26)

Trumpets 1-4 are the judgments upon Mystery Babylon. The kings that joined in worshiping the idol are punished. This is the 1st woe (the start of the 5th Trumpet) (= Revelation 18:9-13)

5 months later, at the 6th Trumpet, the 2nd woe, the people of the prince to come destroys the 'sanctuary' (7th king destroys the sanctuary, which is somehow associated with the US being taken over on July 4, 2021, breaking the Declaration of Independence in the middle of 70 7 years (490/2 = 245 years after July 4, 1776)

At the start of the 2 witnesses 1260 days, nation state Israel breaks the covenant (with God) by giving the the outer court to the nations (Ezekiel 44:7 = Revelation 11:2 = Isaiah 1:12-26) & to the Assyrian (aka the 7th head) via a covenant (Daniel 9:27). At the end of the 1260 days, the Assyrian breaks the covenant. Again, at the start of the 1260 days, Israel breaks the covenant with God by giving the Assyrian the 'outer court' via a covenant. The Assyrian breaks the covenant with Israel at the end of the 1260 days.

The 10 kings in relation to the USA as Mystery Babylon would be the 10 FEMA state governors under martial law (after Babylon has 'fallen', then she becomes a 'cage/ prison' via the mark of the beast that is offered after falling whereby the 'cage' is martial law. (Revelation 14:8-10). The people who 'come out of Babylon' (Revelation 18:4-6) (there is no such thing as a 'whisked away' rapture) are gathered after 'coming out of Babylon'. The trick here is that some people 'come out of Babylon' (the 6th king's Babylon) only to go back into Babylon (the 7th king). These people who have come out of Babylon are the 144,000 & 'great multitude' of Revelation 7/ the 7th Seal. (These people are part of the 'people of the prince to come' aka Jesus' 2nd advent.)

So,
The #6 king makes the covenant of Daniel 9:27.
3.5 days later, the people of the prince to come (#6 king) 'spiritually destroys/ corrupts' the 'city & sanctuary' in the middle of the week with the abomination idol. start 1335 days. (6th Seal)

the people of the prince to come (#7 king) punishes #6 king & his idol. #7 king destroys the city, cutting off the sacrifices (start 1290 days). (Trumpets 1-4, start of the 5th Trumpet's 5 months)

5 months later, #7 king destroys the sanctuary. (the US)

In the middle of 7 years (Israel's 70th anniversary to 77th anniversary), Israel breaks the covenant with God to give via covenant the outer court to the Gentiles & the Assyrian (#7 king) (Revelation 11:2). The Assyrian makes the covenant of Daniel 9:27.

The Assyrian breaks the covenant at the end of the 2 witnesses 1260 days. #8 king, the false prophet is co-ruler with the Assyrian.

The 10 kings will be associated with each of these - the 6th, 7th, & 8th king of Revelation 17:10.

 

[Marilyn C]

You are to pray for leaders, not misrepresent them from the bible, or incite bombing them.

Who is not praying for leaders, and who is inciting bombing who?

 

[Marilyn C]

KGB was established 1954. They hardly had time to finish off 40 million of their own people during the cold war.

I also said `concentration camps,` and they have been prior to the KGB.

 

[Marilyn C]

I'm curious to what people think about this. Is this the globe separated into 10 regions or rather something like just the European nations or Middle Eastern ones?

I believe it is the 10 nations of the coming Islamic Federation.

 

[Dave L]

Who is not praying for leaders, and who is inciting bombing who?

According to Grace Halsell,Prophecy and Politics, several in upper government who were Dispensationalists expected a nuclear holocaust under their watch. And Blacklisting Russia only deludes them further. Christians are peacemakers, not warmongers. This is why I believe many share in the bloodshed from war and terror using biblically unsound interpretations.

 

[Douggg]

According to Grace Halsell,Prophecy and Politics, several in upper government who were Dispensationalists expected a nuclear holocaust under their watch. And Blacklisting Russia only deludes them further. Christians are peacemakers, not warmongers. This is why I believe many share in the bloodshed from war and terror using biblically unsound interpretations.

God has issues will the leader of Gog/Magog. Maybe you should try to figure out what those issues are.

Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

 

[Dave L]

God has issues will the leader of Gog/Magog. Maybe you should try to figure out what those issues are.

Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

You are Rorschaching this, seeing what you think it is. It says nothing about Russia.

 

[Douggg]

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[Douggg]

It says nothing about Russia.

Some people at high noon can look straight up and stare into the sun and still not see the light.

 

[Dave L]

Some people at high noon can look straight up and stare into the sun and still not see the light.

Produce the word Russia from Ezekiel and make me think like you.

 

[Dave L]

Some people at high noon can look straight up and stare into the sun and still not see the light.

This is quite philosophical....

 

[Douggg]

This is quite philosophical....

I wish I could take credit for the saying, but I cannot.

 

[Douggg]

Produce the word Russia from Ezekiel and make me think like you.

There is supposed to be some language tracement of Rosh being root for Russia.

That aside, look at who is supplying the muslims in the region with arms, which they in turn to use against Israel. And the Russians are heavily into Syria, just north of Israel.

It appears that Russia at some point is going to try and disengage itself from its involvement in Syria, but God is somehow going to draw them back, to lead an attack on Israel by the muslim nations. It doesn't say what will trigger the draw back. Russia has the size of army, and strength, and geographical position, that will necessitate burial for 7 months. Of course, it is talking about the whole coalition, not just Russia, which is to be a huge force.