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Cerberus~ said:
Ok, so explain to me how the 1 1/2 billion Muslims aren't evidence for Islam? Or about a billion Hindus? Ya'll could be being duped. Ya'll might be in one of Satan diversionary religions keeping you from worshiping Shiva. Ya'll might be lying, it maybe a conspiracy. You maybe aliens for all I know.

You existence, and numbers prove nothing.

Don't get me started on Islam I used to be a Muslim.

The Bible is the only book that contians Prophesy and many of them have been fullfilled.
 
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The information I know about Wicca comes from a christian woman I know who used to be a wiccan.

If what you've been telling me comes from her, you need to stop listening to her.

If you're actually interested in knowing and understand what Wicca is, then you need to, at the very least, listen to the other side.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm

Or you can keep slandering Wiccans and spreading lies about their beliefs further making their lives more difficult.
 
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I read the thread my husband was a satanist and He says that wicca leads to satan worship but a lot of Wiccans don't even know this just like a lot of Catholics do not know that there beliefs are not Biblical but babylonian

Jesus said the truth shall set you free.

Please read the Bible.
 
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Cerberus~ said:
Ok, so explain to me how the 1 1/2 billion Muslims aren't evidence for Islam? Or about a billion Hindus? Ya'll could be being duped. Ya'll might be in one of Satan diversionary religions keeping you from worshiping Shiva. Ya'll might be lying, it maybe a conspiracy. You maybe aliens for all I know.

You existence, and numbers prove nothing.

I won't deny that every faith has their faithful. I also won't deny that it only proves that is what they believe.

I am saying we are one evidence that Christ is the Messiah. We believe Christ is the Messiah.

Cerberus, are you wiccan? You're defending them pretty vehemently, as if you had a vested interest.
 
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I read the thread my husband was a satanist and He says that wicca leads to satan worship but a lot of Wiccans don't even know this just like a lot of Catholics do not know that there beliefs are not Biblical but babylonian

Why don't you talk to an actual Wiccan, instead of ppl that say they use to be Wiccans. You'll get a much better understanding of what they really believe.
 
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Andrea77 said:
Don't get me started on Islam I used to be a Muslim.

The Bible is the only book that contians Prophesy and many of them have been fullfilled.

Are you happy to be freed from Islam, Andrea? Which faith, in your experience, allows more freedom for you?
 
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Cerberus~ said:
Yea, cause Nostradamus and Edgar Casey never got anything right.

2 Thessalonians 2:5-11

Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
 
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Andrea77 said:
I read the thread my husband was a satanist and He says that wicca leads to satan worship but a lot of Wiccans don't even know this just like a lot of Catholics do not know that there beliefs are not Biblical but babylonian

Jesus said the truth shall set you free.

Please read the Bible.
This kind of thinking potentially leads to this kind of behavior.

“They beat me with bamboo sticks and metal rods and tried to pull my nails out. ‘You are a witch, admit it,' they screamed at me again and again,” Manjhi said, tearfully recalling four days of captivity in June
http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=613e8993-2f80-440c-931c-6795314efc68
 
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JJB said:
Are you happy to be freed from Islam, Andrea? Which faith, in your experience, allows more freedom for you?

Christianity is free here is what Islam is:

NOTE: Differing Quranic translations use slightly different numbering systems - if you do not find the verse in the Quran as quoted here it will be a few verses up or down from its reference.

VERSES FROM THE QURAN
VIOLENCE

Sura 9:29
Fight against such of those to whom the scriptures were given as believe in neither God nor the last day.

Sura 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike of their heads and, when you have laid them low bind your captives firmly.

Sura 5:51
Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their numbers. God does not guide the wrongdoers.

Sura 5:51;9:5,29,41
'Take not the Jews and Christians as friends....slay the idolaters [non Muslims) wherever ye find them....fight against such....as believe not in Allah....'

ISLAM ALLOWS PEDOPHILIA

Sura 65:4
If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those wives who have not yet menstruated. [Children do not have menstruation].

WIFE BEATING PERMITTED

Sura 4:24
Men have authority over a woman because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their money on them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts. As for those from whom you fear disobedience admonish them and send them to their beds apart and beat them.

ISLAM ALLOWS POLYGAMY

Sura 4:3
A man may marry up to four wives at one time. "Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four ... "
 
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Cerberus~ said:
Why don't you talk to an actual Wiccan, instead of ppl that say they use to be Wiccans. You'll get a much better understanding of what they really believe.

So can we also assume you think we should talk to Christians only, and not people who used to be them?

I've spoken with Wiccans. They don't seem to have any coherent belief system other than the rede. So I guess it's a religion you can create as you go along. Drugs? Yeah, sure, if you want. God? You can be it, or you can worship something else. etc., etc. It's also a modern religion -- created this century.

Is that how it goes?
 
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Andrea77 said:
Christianity is free here is what Islam is:

NOTE: Differing Quranic translations use slightly different numbering systems - if you do not find the verse in the Quran as quoted here it will be a few verses up or down from its reference.

VERSES FROM THE QURAN
VIOLENCE

Sura 9:29
Fight against such of those to whom the scriptures were given as believe in neither God nor the last day.

Sura 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike of their heads and, when you have laid them low bind your captives firmly.

Sura 5:51
Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their numbers. God does not guide the wrongdoers.

Sura 5:51;9:5,29,41
'Take not the Jews and Christians as friends....slay the idolaters [non Muslims) wherever ye find them....fight against such....as believe not in Allah....'

ISLAM ALLOWS PEDOPHILIA

Sura 65:4
If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those wives who have not yet menstruated. [Children do not have menstruation].

WIFE BEATING PERMITTED

Sura 4:24
Men have authority over a woman because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their money on them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts. As for those from whom you fear disobedience admonish them and send them to their beds apart and beat them.

ISLAM ALLOWS POLYGAMY

Sura 4:3
A man may marry up to four wives at one time. "Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four ... "

Thank God for Jesus! Women gained a lot through Him. :thumbsup:
 
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2 Thessalonians 2:5-11

Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

Your contradictory interpretation of Scripture is not an objective basis to conclude Nostradamus and Edgar Casey as counterfeit.
 
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