CAN sickness glorify God?

[justinstout]

The sickness did NOT glorify God, YOU DID!

Amen!



That's what I'm trying to say here.

 

[LeeS]

One of our most faithful members is quadriplegic. He is not only a fine man but a self-supporting, self-giving pillar of our community. He credits the automobile accident that put him in a wheelchair 25 years ago as the reason for him turning to God.

When I asked him if he ever wanted to walk again he told me, after thinking about it, that he wasn’t sure. He finds people who aren’t in wheelchairs more “crippled” than he is and anyhow, he wouldn’t be who he is if it weren’t for his condition – in fact he might still be cruising bars for chicks. He is satisfied today with his relationship with Christ and that means more to him than ‘running’ after his own interests.

That is, IMO, a man whose physical infirmity glorifies Christ.

~Jim

It is still not the "condition" that is glorifying God. It is the man. It is wonderful that the condition brought him to God and apparently is the only reason the man continues to serve God. Personally I think it's sad that one's commitment to God may be bound only within the confines of a "condition".

 

[justinstout]

It is still not the "condition" that is glorifying God. It is the man. It is wonderful that the condition brought him to God and apparently is the only reason the man continues to serve God. Personally I think it's sad that one's commitment to God may be bound only within the confines of a "condition".

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[LeeS]

This is a caricature, Dids, and uncalled for. No one has said that having legs is an evil thing. Why would you say that? And why do you guys keep laying these smug red herrings in the path of truth? Are you trying to make us look foolish by misrepresenting what we say?

~Jim

I am not trying to make anyone look foolish. It seems though that others are trying to make us look foolish for serving God even though we have not had to have a "condition" force us to.

 

[oworm]

Lets try a different approach. By asking some questions.

1 How would we know what black was unless there was white?

2 How would we know what up meant unless there was down?

3 How would we know what pain was unless there was pleasure?

4 How would we know what rest was unless there was work?

5 how would we know what sadness was unless there was happiness?

6 how would we know what obedience was unless there was disobedience?

7 How would we know what and ending was unless there was a beggining?

8 how would we know perfection unless there was imperfection?

9 how would we know Love unless there was hate

10 How would we know mercy unless there was wrath?

 

[justinstout]

I am not trying to make anyone look foolish. It seems though that others are trying to make us look foolish for serving God even though we have not had to have a "condition" force us to.

I agree.

God's goodness is what keeps me serving Him, not some illness that's destroying my body.

 

[Evee]

It seems that people are still missing the point.

Was God glorified IN the sickness or BY the sickness?

There's a huge difference.

Sickness and disease itself does not glorified God.
It totally opposes His creation and desire for mankind.

If God's will is sickness and disease, then why didn't He create Adam sick?
Why isn't there going to be sickness and disease in heaven if it's God's will?

What I was saying I glorify God through it all.
I praised God in the sickness and I praise him for the healing no matter how the healing came to be.
The main thing is keep the faith.

 

[Evee]

I am not trying to make anyone look foolish. It seems though that others are trying to make us look foolish for serving God even though we have not had to have a "condition" force us to.

When someone says I am not trying to make anyone look foolish they are making it appear as if they are smarter.
The same Goes when someone says I am not trying to be rude well the statement tells me if the shoe fits wear it.
I see no point in these sorta statements.

 

[justinstout]

What I was saying I glorify God through it all.
I praised God in the sickness and I praise him for the healing no matter how the healing came to be.
The main thing is keep the faith.

That's great that you praised God in the sickness. But for you to praise God for the sickness, that would be unscriptural. We are not telling you that there's a time when you shouldn't praise God. We praise God in all things and in all circumstances, but we do not praise God for all things and for all circumstances.

Does this make sense?

 

[Evee]

That's great that you praised God in the sickness. But for you to praise God for the sickness, that would be unscriptural. We are not telling you that there's a time when you shouldn't praise God. We praise God in all things and in all circumstances, but we do not praise God for all things and for all circumstances.

Does this make sense?

Yes I never said God I want to thank you for my illness I was scared spitless.
I said God please heal me but if Not I will keep my trust in you.
I just kept my trust in him.
I have never been good at explaining.:o

 

[justinstout]

Yes I never said God I want to thank you for my illness I was scared spitless.
I said God please heal me but if Not I will keep my trust in you.
I just kept my trust in him.
I have never been good at explaining.:o

So... after all of this debate about whether God is glorified by sickness or not...

Answer the original question for us:

Can sickness glorify God?

It's yes or no.

1) Yes
2) No


The answer is NO.

 

[Evee]

So... after all of this debate about whether God is glorified by sickness or not...

Answer the original question for us:

Can sickness glorify God?

It's yes or no.

1) Yes
2) No


The answer is NO.

Yes I am not saying God puts sickness on us but yes he can be glorified.

 

[justinstout]

Yes I am not saying God puts sickness on us but yes he can be glorified.

Here we go again!!!!

So you still believe that sickness itself glorifies a Healer??

I guess I'll never figure that one out. lol.


I can promise you that that belief didn't come from God's Word.
It can't be found in Scripture.

 

[Evee]

Here we go again!!!!

So you still believe that sickness itself glorifies a Healer??

I guess I'll never figure that one out. lol.


I can promise you that that belief didn't come from God's Word.
It can't be found in Scripture.

No What I mean is Let God be glorified in all situations.
One of the things I am trying to say is God can take a sickness and show his power through this sickness.
He can take health and show his power he just is a powerful God.
Like Paul with the thorn even though I am not certain what the thorn was, God told him his grace was sufficient.
Hey I don't like to argue with you nice folks we will see things clearer some day.
I am chicken I am out of here Justin...lol

 

[justinstout]

No What I mean is Let God be glorified in all situations.
One of the things I am trying to say is God can take a sickness and show his power through this sickness.
He can take health and show his power he just is a powerful God.
Like Paul with the thorn even though I am not certain what the thorn was, God told him his grace was sufficient.
Hey I don't like to argue with you nice folks we will see things clearer some day.
I am chicken I am out of here Justin...lol

A Healer is glorified through healing.

We need to let His will be done.
Instead of trying to find God in everything, we need to find everything in God.


As I said, if God is glorified through sickness and disease, then get ready for it in heaven!


Sickness does not glorify my Father.





Grace and peace to you,
Justin

 

[oworm]

A Healer is glorified through healing.

Before healing there has to be a sickness.......think about it!!!!

 

[justinstout]

Before healing there has to be a sickness.......think about it!!!!

Before deliverance from sin takes place there has to be sin..... does that mean God wants us to be in sin and that He's glorified through it?!

 

[LeeS]

When someone says I am not trying to make anyone look foolish they are making it appear as if they are smarter.
The same Goes when someone says I am not trying to be rude well the statement tells me if the shoe fits wear it.
I see no point in these sorta statements.

Evee, this was said in response to someone who said we were trying to make them look foolish...I did not just pull the statement out of the air.

 

[LeeS]

Yes I am not saying God puts sickness on us but yes he can be glorified.

Is God glorified by the sickness or by you?

 

[LeeS]

Before healing there has to be a sickness.......think about it!!!!

and before sickness there is divine health.