Can Intelligent Design be a Logical & Rational Answer?

[bhsmte]

Really what they teach in an accredited college is opinion. Are you sure that is where you want to go. That means everything you have ever learned is simply an opinion. The entire education system is based on opinion. I think that contradicts the whole definition of science.

I can give you a clue. There are thinks that work and there are things that do not work. In the real world you do not get very far if you do not come up with a solution that works.

Things no longer become opinion, when they are supported with objective and verifiable evidence. That is how I roll, you obviously, roll differently.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Things no longer become opinion, when they are supported with objective and verifiable evidence.

You do not seem to understand the point I was making. Good teaching is the same for religion as it is for science. The Dean at the Bible college teaches in public school. The way she teaches remains the same if she is in the public school system or if she is teaching in the Bible College.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you are saying that you have never taken a science class at an accredited institution of higher learning.

Just psy 101 and sociology 101. Physics and trigonometry was a part of some classes I took. I had Biology, Algebra & Geometry in high school. Of course Biology 50 years ago was a lot different then it is now. I have a few Biology books that I got used from Amazon that I study. Even if I had only read ONE book on Evolution and I have read many, that would mean I know more about the subject than 98% of the people in the WORLD today.

 

[bhsmte]

You do not seem to understand the point I was making. Good teaching is the same for religion as it is for science. The Dean at the Bible college teaches in public school. The way she teaches remains the same if she is in the public school system or if she is teaching in the Bible College.

It depends what evidence teachings are based on.

 

[bhsmte]

Just psy 101 and sociology 101. Physics and trigonometry was a part of some classes I took. I had Biology, Algebra & Geometry in high school. Of course Biology 50 years ago was a lot different then it is now. I have a few Biology books that I got used from Amazon that I study. Even if I had only read ONE book on Evolution and I have read many, that would mean I know more about the subject than 98% of the people in the WORLD today.

Based on the content of your posts, i cant buy this claim.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Based on the content of your posts, i cant buy this claim.

What claim is that?

 

[joshua 1 9]

It depends what evidence teachings are based on.

I usually go by universal teaching. What is accepted by all the various denominations. There are universal standards here on this forum as to what constitutes Christianity and they have terms of service rules as to what is acceptable and what is not.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What claim is that?

The claim that you know more about evolution than 98% of people in the world today.
You have made that claim several times before and you have never once presented any evidence that you are right.

 

[quatona]

Can Intelligent Design be a Logical & Rational Answer?

To which question?

 

[joshua 1 9]

The claim that you know more about evolution than 98% of people in the world today.

Yes and I have substantiated that claim many times. In American people get confused by our prosperity and education here. Only 6.7% of the world’s population holds a college degree. Approximately one-third of all Americans hold a college degree.

Of course the question here has to do with how much I know about Evolution compared to the average person in the world today. If you are not aware of how much I know about the subject then you simply have not been reading my posts.

 

[bhsmte]

What claim is that?

You know more about evolution, than 98% of the population. From my observation, you may have that reversed.

 

[bhsmte]

I usually go by universal teaching. What is accepted by all the various denominations. There are universal standards here on this forum as to what constitutes Christianity and they have terms of service rules as to what is acceptable and what is not.

Cool.

 

[bhsmte]

Yes and I have substantiated that claim many times. In American people get confused by our prosperity and education here. Only 6.7% of the world’s population holds a college degree. Approximately one-third of all Americans hold a college degree.

Of course the question here has to do with how much I know about Evolution compared to the average person in the world today. If you are not aware of how much I know about the subject then you simply have not been reading my posts.

Major league LOL

 

[joshua 1 9]

You know more about evolution, than 98% of the population. From my observation, you may have that reversed.

LOL That says very little for your observation ability. Like I said, I have read at least a dozen books on evolution. Plus I have college Biology books and I am aware of what is in those books. Only 4% of Americans have a science degree where Biology is required. This would be much less on a world basis.

If you think that there are so many experts on evolution in this world then why do we have so many people like Dr Hovind?

So why don't you share with us what the extent is of your knowledge of evolution outside of the standard college text book. How many studies have you read and what is the extent of your research?

One area I have been esp interested in is the study of Botany and the Evolution of the Plants and animals in the Middle East. Because the Bible is a history book dealing with this subject. This way I can confirm that there is no conflict between science and the Bible. In addition to fact based Botany I have even read books dealing with the sort of speculation that Evolutionists are know for. An example of that is called: "The Botany of Desire". In this book the author examines: Sweetness (Apple), Beauty (Tulip), Intoxication (Marijuana) & Control (Potato). He explains his theory on how desire controls evolution.

This is a very small sample of a book I have studied that goes into evolution at a level beyond what we find in our college biology text book. Some other areas I have done extensive research on are the dinosaurs that we find the remains of at the Ghost Ranch in New Mexico. This was actually used by American paleontologist Dr. Edwin Colbert to verify plate tectonics.

Another study I have done has to do with artifacts and what the earliest example is of artifacts around 40,000 years ago. This allowed our species to leave Africa and move into a bio-diverse ecosystem and take the place of Neanderthal man. In addition to this I have studied about the Paleo diet and also I have done research on fire and the effect fire and cooking food had on evolution.

I am only talking about the study of history and pure unadulterated science. Plus the fact that I am 65 years old and so I have been around long enough to do some serious study and research. My High School Biology teacher was a Harvard graduate and he got me started on the study of Biology over 50 years ago. Just like I began my study on Ancient History at that time. Once they wet your appetite and got me started I have spent my whole life to continue to study and learn. I remember reading "The Double Helix" back in the 60 when it first came out. Now I am reading France Collins book about DNA and the work his is doing with the Human Gnome project and the impact they feel that is having on Medicine and finding a cure for genetic diseases.

There are a lot of things people will learn when they get to Heaven but I am getting an early start on a lot of that based on what we are given here and now to work with.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

LOL That says very little for your observation ability. Like I said, I have read at least a dozen books on evolution. Plus I have college Biology books and I am aware of what is in those books. Only 4% of Americans have a science degree where Biology is required. This would be much less on a world basis.

If you think that there are so many experts on evolution in this world then why do we have so many people like Dr Hovind?

So why don't you share with us what the extent is of your knowledge of evolution outside of the standard college text book. How many studies have you read and what is the extent of your research?

One area I have been esp interested in is the study of Botany and the Evolution of the Plants and animals in the Middle East. Because the Bible is a history book dealing with this subject. This way I can confirm that there is no conflict between science and the Bible. In addition to fact based Botany I have even read books dealing with the sort of speculation that Evolutionists are know for. An example of that is called: "The Botany of Desire". In this book the author examines: Sweetness (Apple), Beauty (Tulip), Intoxication (Marijuana) & Control (Potato). He explains his theory on how desire controls evolution.

This is a very small sample of a book I have studied that goes into evolution at a level beyond what we find in our college biology text book. Some other areas I have done extensive research on are the dinosaurs that we find the remains of at the Ghost Ranch in New Mexico. This was actually used by American paleontologist Dr. Edwin Colbert to verify plate tectonics.

Another study I have done has to do with artifacts and what the earliest example is of artifacts around 40,000 years ago. This allowed our species to leave Africa and move into a bio-diverse ecosystem and take the place of Neanderthal man. In addition to this I have studied about the Paleo diet and also I have done research on fire and the effect fire and cooking food had on evolution.

I am only talking about the study of history and pure unadulterated science. Plus the fact that I am 65 years old and so I have been around long enough to do some serious study and research. My High School Biology teacher was a Harvard graduate and he got me started on the study of Biology over 50 years ago. Just like I began my study on Ancient History at that time. Once they wet your appetite and got me started I have spent my whole life to continue to study and learn. I remember reading "The Double Helix" back in the 60 when it first came out. Now I am reading France Collins book about DNA and the work his is doing with the Human Gnome project and the impact they feel that is having on Medicine and finding a cure for genetic diseases.

There are a lot of things people will learn when they get to Heaven but I am getting an early start on a lot of that based on what we are given here and now to work with.

But you don't know more about evolution than 98% of the people in the world today.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes and I have substantiated that claim many times. In American people get confused by our prosperity and education here. Only 6.7% of the world’s population holds a college degree. Approximately one-third of all Americans hold a college degree.

Of course the question here has to do with how much I know about Evolution compared to the average person in the world today. If you are not aware of how much I know about the subject then you simply have not been reading my posts.

Except that I have seen your posts, and they do not read like someone who knows more about evolution than 98% of people in the world. You are consistently wrong about what you claim about evolution, and when you are called out on being wrong, you do not rectify your mistakes and learn from your errors and then you keep making the same false claims again and again and again. In fact, virtually all of your posts about evolution reads like someone who does not know anything about evolution but lies about what they know in a prideful display of intellectual vanity.
Just do the Christian thing and be humble and admit that you do not know more about evolution than 98% of people in the world.

(And cue inane and off-topic response in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...)

 

[joshua 1 9]

You are consistently wrong

Do know that you are guilty of what you accuse others of? God does not give us the ability to judge others. He only gives us the ability to judge ourselves and project that out on others.

Titus 1:15 "To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted."

 

[joshua 1 9]

But you don't know more about evolution than 98% of the people in the world today.

You do not know what I know and what I do not know. You have already admitted that.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Do know that you are guilty of what you accuse others of? God does not give us the ability to judge others. He only gives us the ability to judge ourselves and project that out on others.

Titus 1:15 "To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted."

But we can judge you from what you post and from what you have posted, we can easily judge that you do not know about evolution enough to claim that you know more about it than 98% of the people in the world.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You do not know what I know and what I do not know. You have already admitted that.

Where have I admitted that?
All I have said is that you are wrong when you say that you know more about evolution than 98% of people in the world, which your posting history shows.