Can Intelligent Design be a Logical & Rational Answer?

[Skreeper]

E quill air tyme.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And science can't explain the difference, can it?

Indeed. Reason is unable to tell the difference between both in terms of accuracy value.

So science gives them equal airtime.

Actually, science gives it the same treatment as any other proposition that can't be differentiated from falsehoods. And that is not any airtime whatsoever.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Muslims talk about the Quran, the literal word of god.

It does not matter what people say about the Quran, what does the Quran say?

Isaiah 55 10 "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; 11 So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Just like people have different opinions on the bible.

We do not need people to teach us the Bible, we have the Holy Spirit of God to be our Teacher and Guide us, to lead us into all truth. "The Holy Ghost shall teach you all things", John 14:26 "But when He the, Spirit of truth, shall come, He will guide you into all the truth" John 16 13

 

[joshua 1 9]

Science is myopic.

There is true Science and there is counterfeit science. Just like we live in a day and age of fake news there is plenty of fake science.

 

[joshua 1 9]

How can we know the Bible is a credible source?

There are two ways to know, seek to prove the Bible true or seek to prove that the Bible is not true. Either way you have to seek. Matthew 7 7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

 

[bhsmte]

There is true Science and there is counterfeit science. Just like we live in a day and age of fake news there is plenty of fake science.

And I am sure, you will tell us what is "true science" and what is "counterfeit science".

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

There is true Science and there is counterfeit science. Just like we live in a day and age of fake news there is plenty of fake science.

Translation- "Anything that contradicts my beliefs is fake science"

But you're right, there is plenty of pseudoscience. Acupuncture, homeopathy, chiropractor, astrology, creationism, intelligent design, etc, etc.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And I am sure, you will tell us what is "true science" and what is "counterfeit science".

To be fair, I have asked him what the difference is before. And it's exactly what you think it is.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It does not matter what people say about the Quran,

Indeed, it doesn't. And the same goes for what people say about the bible - or any other book.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

We do not need people to teach us the Bible, we have the Holy Spirit of God to be our Teacher and Guide us, to lead us into all truth

Funny then, how just about all christians have their own personal interpretation of this book.
Funny also, how their interpretation of what god wants / says, always seems to align with the personal opinions of them.

For every christian I ever talked to, I've met other christians who said "that guy is not a 'real christian' and this is what the bible really says".

But you don't have to rely on my anecdote there... All I require to show your statement to be nonsense, is by pointing at the MANY different denominations. All those people read the same book. They all draw very different conclusions.

 

[AV1611VET]

For every christian I ever talked to, I've met other christians who said "that guy is not a 'real christian' and this is what the bible really says".

But you don't have to rely on my anecdote there... All I require to show your statement to be nonsense, is by pointing at the MANY different denominations. All those people read the same book. They all draw very different conclusions.

That you're not a real Christian?

Why are you moaning and groaning that Tom says Joes isn't a real Christian (and vice versa), when both Tom and Joe would agree that you're not a real Christian either?

In fact, sir, even you claim you're not a real Christian.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That you're not a real Christian?

Why are you moaning and groaning that Tom says Joes isn't a real Christian (and vice versa), when both Tom and Joe would agree that you're not a real Christian either?

In fact, sir, even you claim you're not a real Christian.

If you are going to stick your nose in a conversation, at least try to get a grip of what the conversation topic is.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you are going to stick your nose in a conversation, at least try to get a grip of what the conversation topic is.

I'm just wondering if you are bragging or complaining when you say this:

For every christian I ever talked to, I've met other christians who said "that guy is not a 'real christian' and this is what the bible really says".

 

[bhsmte]

To be fair, I have asked him what the difference is before. And it's exactly what you think it is.

I know.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Funny then, how just about all christians have their own personal interpretation of this book.

Yes that is very interesting how that works. We all see in part but the day will come when we will all fully understand.

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you are going to stick your nose in a conversation, at least try to get a grip of what the conversation topic is.

Do you mean if we want to talk to infidels then we have to think like an infidel? It simply does not work that way. We have the Mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. As Christians we become Born Again and a New Creation in Christ and we have no desire to go back to our old way of thinking. That sort of stinking thinking did nothing but get us in trouble. It simply is not and was not worth it.

 

[Speedwell]

Yes that is very interesting how that works. We all see in part but the day will come when we will all fully understand.

It's just too bad that some of these various denominations are so hostile to the others about their differences.

 

[bhsmte]

Do you mean if we want to talk to infidels then we have to think like an infidel? It simply does not work that way. We have the Mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God. As Christians we become Born Again and a New Creation in Christ and we have no desire to go back to our old way of thinking. That sort of stinking thinking did nothing but get us in trouble. It simply is not and was not worth it.

If christians have the mind of christ, why do christians have so many different interpretations?

 

[bhsmte]

It's just too bad that some of these various denominations are so hostile to the others about their differences.

Yep, i dont think jesus would like that.