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What personal belief?
That GOD will NOT nor EVER self-destruct????
Is total self-termination or total self-obliteration within the parameters of God's abilities? Or do we conclude that no matter how he might feel concerning his own existence, He is incapable of such an act?
Never apologize for your beliefs...just that you are sorry for their toes...there are several here (all across the boards) who will take it and try to take advantage of it..Christ like,huh?
Stick to your beliefs,sister!
BTW
You say that flesh counts for nothing? That goes completely contrary to what the Bible tells us about how precious Jesus' ransom sacrifice was. If indeed his body of flesh counted for nothing then you are still unredeemed.
Is total self-termination or total self-obliteration within the parameters of God's abilities? Or do we conclude that no matter how he might feel concerning his own existence, He is incapable of such an act?
Of course. If he's God, he can do anything by definition, including that. I doubt he would, but if he did, we'd go with him so we'd never know.
Well, if his personality doesn't permit certain things then we have to understand that when the Bible says that all things are possible with God it excludes sinful things including the sin of self termination.
1 Corinthians 14:33 ESV
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. ....
I think it is clear He has free will. Remember Hezekiah, God "added" 15 years to his life. The problem is we are dealing with a being that really is outside of our ability to understand to any great detail. We are in the flesh and finite, He is Spirit and eternal. We are simply limited on what we can or cannot grasp at this time. So, with what little we can grasp... if we see Him "repent" in various places (2 Samuel 24:16, Amos 7:3 to name two) then He can change His mind. And if true, and that seems to be the case, then He has free will.
The free will He gave us allows us to choose Him or the world. Thus, in the end, He is surrounded by those who WANTED to love Him, WANTED to be with Him.
The problem with free will and predestination is both exist in Scripture and too few are patient enough to work through it to reconcile them. I think it comes down to who's eyes are being looked through. While God has free will, He also knows the end from the beginning and is eternal... always existing. So from His perspective, He can see our timeline at any point and know what will become of any person, thing, thought, anything. Since he knows it in advance, from His perspective we can say "predestination" because it WILL happen because being eternal, He saw it happen already (He exists outside of time). But WE DON'T have a clue what tomorrow brings and so we live having to choose... between good and evil, life and death, blessing and cursing.
What do you mean by that?Well the word of GOD states
All sin shall
Only God could decide.Only GOD could decide the acceptable sacrifice before HIM
YES you are right about that
Just as you are right that HIS WAYS are higher
Please note that the forum is entitled CONTROVERSIAL theology. Since it is entitled CONTROVERISAL THEOLOGY I decided to post something CONTROVERSIAL. If CONTROVERSIAL theological subjects tend to offend then please consider that perhaps participation in the NON CONTROVERSIAL Theology forums would be best in order to avoid getting offended. Just a thought. Also, if I did offend you spiritually by my thread question I sincerely apologize. God Bless!This is a Christian forum isn't it?
Seems like the question itself is inappropriate for a Christian forum? I only posted it because I noticed that something CONTROVERIAL is required by this forum as a thread subject and the question happened spontaneously pop into my mind. Perhaps a bit too spontaneously on hindsight.why?Should it not be?
Aseity is an essential attribute of God.Is total self-termination or total self-obliteration within the parameters of God's abilities? Or do we conclude that no matter how he might feel concerning his own existence, He is incapable of such an act?
Strange response.The Bible does tell us that we should not stumble others and I am getting the strong impression that this subject has that potential. That makes me feel very badly. So I will request it be removed. Thanks for the contribution and interest.
But what color was the horse?More importantly, if a hen and a half, lays an egg and a half in a day and a half, how long would it take a bow-legged Cockroach to shingle a roof??
What is Aseity?Aseity is an essential attribute of God.
Exodus 3:14 has God's Name relating to his self-existence.
"God is self-existent, God has always been...Our Maker exists in an eternal, self-sustaining, necessary way, necessary, that is, in the sense that God does not have it in Him to go out of existence, just as we do not have it in us to live forever. We necessarily age and die, because it is our present nature to do that; God necessarily continues forever unchanged, because it is His eternal nature to do that. This is one of many contrasts between creature and Creator...God's self existence is basic truth. At the outset of his presentation of the unknown God to theAthenian idolaters, Paul explained that this God, the world's Creator, "is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else" (Acts 17:23-25). Sacrifices offered to idols, in today's tribal religions as in ancient Athens, are thought of as somehow keeping the god going, but the Creator (the I AM) needs no such support system. The word aseity, meaning that he has life in himself and draws his unending energy from Himself (a se in Latin means "from himself"), was coined by theologians to express this truth, which the Bible makes clear.
J.I. Packer Concise Theology pg. 26-7
Must of missed that. Let the chips fall where they may. We are all adults looking to reduce false beliefs.What is Aseity?
Also, what has this to do with his ability to self-terminate? No, I wasn't referring to him as being stumbled. I was referring to others who reacted as if they had been stumbled.
Must of missed that. Let the chips fall where they may. We are all adults looking to reduce false beliefs.
As to aseity,
I gave a definition of aseity in my post.
But here are some additional resources:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/god-necessary-being/
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/scholarly-articles/divine-aseity
It is important because it is the essential attribute you are asking about in your original post.
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