Can a Homosexual be a Christian?

[EnemyPartyII]

That is your opinion.
What if you are wrong?

What if you are?

That trying to scare people with Pasdcal's wager-ism is pretty lame as far as testimony and witnbess goes... I mean, someone might as well say... "What if Odin worshippers are right and you are wrong? What THEN?"

See my point? So, to convince all us evil homosexuals that we are the aberrant sub-human scum that so many Christians want us to believe we are, you'll need to come up with something MORE than Pascal's wager, and something MORE than "the Bible SEZ!"... but by all means, if you have something new to bring to the discussion that doesn't boil down to those two extremely well flogged dead horses, I'm very much open to discussion

 

[Ohioprof]

Ok. Then how come some believe that you can practice sin and do what you just said in the second paragraph at the same time?

Being gay and loving a spouse are not sins. No one has advocated following Jesus and practicing sin at the same time. I reject the belief that same-sex love is a sin.

 

[Ohioprof]

Do you think I could serve others and spead Christ's message of love, REPENTANCE (now, there's something most don't like talking about nowandays) and eternal life if I indulged in sleeping around with different men, regardless if they're married or not? Or steal? Or be a habitual liar? Or what about being a troublemaker due to my jealousy? Or maybe even an oppressor of people?

The practices you have named are sins. Loving a same-sex spouse is not a sin.

 

[Ohioprof]

this discussion is over.

Why?

 

[Ohioprof]

With all due respect Ohioprof.I have a few questions for you regarding your reply to my post.
You say that you believe that Jesus was a good teacher.
Do you believe that Jesus is the son of God?
Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet, a teacher thats all.
Christians believe that Jesus was the Son of God.
Did God make man and from the mans rib make Eve?
Where did you get this information about the creation?
How did you find out about Jesus?
Where did you find his teachings?

I do not believe that Jesus is any more the son of God than we all are children of God.

I get information about Jesus from the various historical sources that we have available, including the 4 canonical Gospels, the various Gnostic Gospels, and other fragments of evidence. Scholars have scrutinized and analyzed this evidence, and they continue to do so, to try to get an accurate picture of the historical Jesus: who Jesus really was, apart from the myths and beliefs that have come to surround him.

 

[Ave Maria]

Celibate homosexuals most certainly can be Christians. Practicing homosexuals, on the other hand, cannot be
Christians in good standing.

 

[Ohioprof]

That is your opinion.
What if you are wrong?

I don't think there is any reason to worry about this. The idea that "homosexuality is a sin" is just a belief. There is no substance to this belief. People base this belief on what they were taught growing up, and on a few vague Bible passages.

 

[Ohioprof]

Celibate homosexuals most certainly can be Christians. Practicing homosexuals, on the other hand, cannot be
Christians in good standing.

And how do you know which Christians are "in good standing?" Do you have a list that the rest of us do not know about?

Do you think the chaplain at Harvard, a gay man, is not a Christian "in good standing?"

Do you think Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson is not a Christian "in good standing?"

Why would Christians choose as their Bishop someone who is not "in good standing?"

 

[Ohioprof]

Celibate homosexuals most certainly can be Christians. Practicing homosexuals, on the other hand, cannot be
Christians in good standing.

I guess I must be accidentally "in good standing" as a Christian, as I happen to be celibate because I am single.

 

[Leah]

The practices you have named are sins. Loving a same-sex spouse is not a sin.

You're very right in repeatedly saying that loving a same-sex person is not a sin. Simply because millions of people do this every second of every day. And that is what God likes, but with the love based on I Corinthians 13:4-7. You know what it says.

However, the difference is that in homosexuality, there are sexual feelings involved.

Why does one have to marry the same-sex person he/she loves?

 

[Leah]

Being gay and loving a spouse are not sins. No one has advocated following Jesus and practicing sin at the same time. I reject the belief that same-sex love is a sin.

Again, same-sex love is not a sin. Jesus loved the disciples and they were all men.

I love my mom and sisters in Christ and all the female members of my blood family.

Nope. Same-sex love is not a sin.

 

[lincolngreen50]

What if you are?

That trying to scare people with Pasdcal's wager-ism is pretty lame as far as testimony and witnbess goes... I mean, someone might as well say... "What if Odin worshippers are right and you are wrong? What THEN?"

See my point? So, to convince all us evil homosexuals that we are the aberrant sub-human scum that so many Christians want us to believe we are, you'll need to come up with something MORE than Pascal's wager, and something MORE than "the Bible SEZ!"... but by all means, if you have something new to bring to the discussion that doesn't boil down to those two extremely well flogged dead horses, I'm very much open to discussion

You didnt answer the question directly

 

[lincolngreen50]

Again, same-sex love is not a sin. Jesus loved the disciples and they were all men.

I love my mom and sisters in Christ and all the female members of my blood family.

Nope. Same-sex love is not a sin.

An opinion of the few

 

[lincolngreen50]

And how do you know which Christians are "in good standing?" Do you have a list that the rest of us do not know about?

Do you think the chaplain at Harvard, a gay man, is not a Christian "in good standing?"

Do you think Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson is not a Christian "in good standing?"

Why would Christians choose as their Bishop someone who is not "in good standing?"

Apostate Church is arising.

 

[Ohioprof]

An opinion of the few

There are many Christians and non-Christians who do not regard same-sex love as a sin. Gallup polls show a majority of Americans now believe that "homosexuality is an acceptable alternative lifestyle." I dislike the phrasing of the question, since being gay is not a "lifestyle." But the poll results show that most Americans do not regard same-sex relationships as a sin.

 

[Ohioprof]

Apostate Church is arising.

I think that what's rising is a choice among more and more Christians to treat gay people fairly and to accept gay people as we are. I think that's wonderful. As a gay person, I certainly appreciate the growing acceptance by my fellow Christians of me and people like me.

 

[shepsgirl]

There are many Christians and non-Christians who do not regard same-sex love as a sin. Gallup polls show a majority of Americans now believe that "homosexuality is an acceptable alternative lifestyle." I dislike the phrasing of the question, since being gay is not a "lifestyle." But the poll results show that most Americans do not regard same-sex relationships as a sin.

I know you don't believe in it, but the Bible warns of people becoming more accepting of sin in the end times.

 

[Ohioprof]

I know you don't believe in it, but the Bible warns of people becoming more accepting of sin in the end times.

I'm not worried about that.

 

[shepsgirl]

It doesn't matter wether your worried about it or not, it is not going to stop it from happening. Happy Thanksgiving, btw.

 

[Ohioprof]

It doesn't matter wether your worried about it or not, it is not going to stop it from happening. Happy Thanksgiving, btw.

Happy Thanksgiving to you, also! Many blessings to you and your loved ones.