Can a child molester be saved?

[onetwopi]

I feel like a better question would be, "Can you love a child molester like Jesus commanded you to do?"

 

[Numbers In The Sky]

Well, when I was 13 or 14 years old, myself and about 6 of my friends (well, just neighbors) including two children, brother and sister probably at age 6, 7, 8 or maybe even 9 years old, were really acting crazy. In trying to be popular or something, I exposed myself. There was laughing, etc., and I felt stupid ever since. I think it actually earned me a bad name among those I tried to be popular with.
But my question now is, am I considered a child molester for that?
Some three or four years later, I heard those "friends" had gang raped another girl.

Now while I was still at about 13 or at most 14, a few days after the crazy encounter mentioned above, the brother and sister came by where I was using the outhouse. I called them over to me. They didn't attract me. I have never been attracted to little children, but for some reason I just wanted to show them. I did expose myself to the brother and sister and explained sex - or what I thought I knew about it. Well, I guess I felt I could just because I had already acted crazy when my "friends" were around. They explained that they had seen their parents naked, so I guess I wasn't the first.
But another question is, I guess I am considered a child molester for that second exposure and discussion - right? But I have never done anything like that since.

 

[Jven79]

Well, when I was 13 or 14 years old, myself and about 6 of my friends (well, just neighbors) including two children, brother and sister probably at age 6, 7, 8 or maybe even 9 years old, were really acting crazy. In trying to be popular or something, I exposed myself. There was laughing, etc., and I felt stupid ever since. I think it actually earned me a bad name among those I tried to be popular with.
But my question now is, am I considered a child molester for that?
Some three or four years later, I heard those "friends" had gang raped another girl.

Now while I was still at about 13 or at most 14, a few days after the crazy encounter mentioned above, the brother and sister came by where I was using the outhouse. I called them over to me. They didn't attract me. I have never been attracted to little children, but for some reason I just wanted to show them. I did expose myself to the brother and sister and explained sex - or what I thought I knew about it. Well, I guess I felt I could just because I had already acted crazy when my "friends" were around. They explained that they had seen their parents naked, so I guess I wasn't the first.
But another question is, I guess I am considered a child molester for that second exposure and discussion - right? But I have never done anything like that since.

You we’re a kid yourself

 

[Kenny'sID]

I feel like a better question would be, "Can you love a child molester like Jesus commanded you to do?"

An active child molester as you seem to be saying?

There are things that God hates, and it would not surprise me if an active Child molester was one of them, or I'd even go do far as to say some of, if not THE people he hates the most.

I know they are at the top of my list...right up there with murder.

 

[DM25]

I feel like a better question would be, "Can you love a child molester like Jesus commanded you to do?"

If they have become a new creation in Christ, then yes and we are called to do it.

 

[Arthur B Via]

OK, suit yourself.

Please prove this wrong by using God's Word as written... Can not be done!

 

[BNR32FAN]

What I initially stated was, they must repent and turn from their wicked ways. THEN, I said they should also turn themselves in. The "also" was a seperate sentense from the first sentence and non inclusive for salvation.

There are many scriptures though that tell us what we should do when we have wronged someone. I don't think it's an "in order to be saved" but is still quite important in turning away from one's wicked ways. Refusing (not to be confused with you no longer have contact with them and are unable to ask for forgiveness) to do as scripture instructs is sin also. (James 4:17) If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them. And in the event that the harm done was a "crime" such as molestation, I believe they should turn themselves in.

I found this site fairly informative on the subject of restitution to those whom we have harmed: https://www.gotquestions.org/restitution-Bible.html

I’m sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying it is required for salvation.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Please prove this wrong by using God's Word as written... Can not be done!

Did I say anything was wrong? I've no interest in proving it wrong or right.

I questioned you and you would not answer, I basically told you that's up to you to answer or not, and ended it...oh well.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

I’m sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying it is required for salvation.

No problem

 

[Arthur B Via]

Did I say anything was wrong? I've no interest in proving it wrong or right.

I questioned you and you would not answer, I basically told you that's up to you to answer or not, and ended it...oh well.

Please ask me again friend. I'm having problems with this computer and lost info. I'll find the correct answer in God's Word. Thank you...

 

[Kenny'sID]

Please ask me again friend. I'm having problems with this computer and lost info. I'll find the correct answer in God's Word. Thank you...

You can use the arrow by the name preceding any quote, click on it, and it will back track to prior posts. Just keep going till you find what you need.

As in this post, see the arrow by "Arthur B Via said:"? Hard to tell but that is a clickable link

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

From abuse to healing

 

[pintail]

Society always tries to find a group of people to single out for special contempt. I guess it makes one feel better about oneself. At least I'm not like THAT loser. This need to find some group that you can hang your hat of anger/contempt/accusation on is a dangerous one.

Child molesters, sex offenders are today's lepers. They have to register wherever they go so that everyone will know they are unclean

Check out how Jesus dealt with lepers and other outcasts of society and I think you'll be given insight into whether or not a child molestor can be saved.

 

[Eric Abbott]

Based on Matthew 18:6, my opinion is not a chance

A child molester cannot be saved, but a child molester who puts their faith in Christ with the heart becomes changed and is no longer considered a child molester, and Jesus paid for that persons penalty.

Liars, fornicators, child molesters, homosexuals, who never put their faith in Christ all end up side by side each other in hell and have no chance of being saved.

 

[Jven79]

Society always tries to find a group of people to single out for special contempt. I guess it makes one feel better about oneself. At least I'm not like THAT loser. This need to find some group that you can hang your hat of anger/contempt/accusation on is a dangerous one.

Child molesters, sex offenders are today's lepers. They have to register wherever they go so that everyone will know they are unclean

Check out how Jesus dealt with lepers and other outcasts of society and I think you'll be given insight into whether or not a child molestor can be saved.

Jesus forgave them

 

[Jven79]

A child molester cannot be saved, but a child molester who puts their faith in Christ with the heart becomes changed and is no longer considered a child molester, and Jesus paid for that persons penalty.

Liars, fornicators, child molesters, homosexuals, who never put their faith in Christ all end up side by side each other in hell and have no chance of being saved.

I’m confused. Are you saying they can or cannot be saved

 

[Eric Abbott]

I’m confused. Are you saying they can or cannot be saved

It is a bit confusing.. its like this
I am guilty of many things, I have broken all 10 commandments.. yet, because I put my faith in Christ, its like I have not. The only difference is now that when I mess up, the Holy Spirit convicts me since I am saved.

When I was not saved, I had no shame in it and kept on willingly breaking the commandments against my own conscience without much regret at all.

Me being guilty of sinning thousands of times in my life, without Christ I would be side by side with the exact same judgement of a child molester who never put their trust in Christ.. I would be exactly the same as the child molester, the rapist, the murderer, separated from God. I would get no lesser punishment or more of a punishment.

Likewise if a child molester put their faith in Christ and repented (Changing their minds about molesting children and turning away from it, and felt regret) The Holy Spirit then comes into the child molester or sinner, and changes them into a new heart and a new person.. as if they are not that same person any longer.. they are then saved as if they never did anything like any other sinner.

They would get no better reward or lesser reward, they will be filled with the same joy any other saved person has regardless if people still hate them for what they did or not..

Likewise the sinner who never did put their faith in Christ would get no lesser punishment or greater punishment for sinning.

Its like the child molester when putting their faith and trust in Christ, they were whipped, tortured and punished on the cross for what they did.. (And yes they sure deserved this beating and torture for molesting children) -- However, Jesus took the beating for them so they would not have too. Jesus paid for their penalties in full when he was resurrected.

Good news for the child molester.. just like its good news for us. The child molester who does not cling to Christ will not receive this free gift that they did not deserve.

The child molester did not deserve it, but they get it out of grace anyway if they surrender and cling to Jesus and repent.

That is why the child molesters who say they love Jesus yet continue molesting children, are not really saved

Likewise, those who say they are Christian yet keep living in their sin, is just like that.. not really saved.

 

[sunshineforJesus]

Not quite. The sin of Blaspheming the Holy Sprint is the unforgivable sin, so not all sin is the same in God's eyes

Oops I forgot about that one.

 

[sunshineforJesus]

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[Eric Abbott]

Not quite. The sin of Blaspheming the Holy Sprint is the unforgivable sin, so not all sin is the same in God's eyes

I use to blaspheme the Holy Spirit all the time when I was an agnostic. Now that I put my faith in Christ, I repented of my sins and put my faith in Christ that I will not end up in hell.
Am I still going to hell as of right now according to your understanding of the scripture?