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I think this has gone about as far as it should be allowed. &Abel, either stick to the subject of the thread, or cease to post here. Your non-Biblical, non-inspired "scriptures" are unwanted, unrecognized, and actively rejected here. If you cannot make your point from the recognized Protestant Canon, then you will be asked to refrain from comment. Further posting of such stuff will be seen as an intent to derail the thread, brinking, and intentionally trying to provoke. Do I make myself clear?
I second that.

&Abel stay on topic and use scripture.
 
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I think this has gone about as far as it should be allowed. &Abel, either stick to the subject of the thread, or cease to post here. Your non-Biblical, non-inspired "scriptures" are unwanted, unrecognized, and actively rejected here. If you cannot make your point from the recognized Protestant Canon, then you will be asked to refrain from comment. Further posting of such stuff will be seen as an intent to derail the thread, brinking, and intentionally trying to provoke. Do I make myself clear?

ok,

Ezekial 33

11"Say to them, '(O)As I live!' declares the Lord GOD, 'I take (P)no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked (Q)turn from his way and live (R)Turn back, turn back from your evil ways! Why then will you die, O house of Israel?'
12"And you, son of man, say to your fellow citizens, 'The (S)righteousness of a righteous man will not deliver him in the day of his transgression, and as for the wickedness of the wicked, he will (T)not stumble because of it in the day when he turns from his wickedness; whereas a righteous man will not be able to live by his righteousness on the day when he commits sin.'
13"When I say to the righteous he will surely live, and he so trusts in his righteousness that he (U)commits iniquity, none of his righteous deeds will be remembered; but in that same iniquity of his which he has committed he will die.
14"But when I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and he (V)turns from his sin and practices (W)justice and righteousness,
15if a wicked man restores a pledge, (X)pays back what he has taken by robbery, walks by the (Y)statutes which ensure life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
 
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Ezekial 33

11"Say to them, '(O)As I live!' declares the Lord GOD, 'I take (P)no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked (Q)turn from his way and live (R)Turn back, turn back from your evil ways! Why then will you die, O house of Israel?'
12"And you, son of man, say to your fellow citizens, 'The (S)righteousness of a righteous man will not deliver him in the day of his transgression, and as for the wickedness of the wicked, he will (T)not stumble because of it in the day when he turns from his wickedness; whereas a righteous man will not be able to live by his righteousness on the day when he commits sin.'
13"When I say to the righteous he will surely live, and he so trusts in his righteousness that he (U)commits iniquity, none of his righteous deeds will be remembered; but in that same iniquity of his which he has committed he will die.
14"But when I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and he (V)turns from his sin and practices (W)justice and righteousness,
15if a wicked man restores a pledge, (X)pays back what he has taken by robbery, walks by the (Y)statutes which ensure life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die.

and your point is???
 
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JF5000,

I should have left that post up....

NBF and all who are tired of this incessant rambling... I recommend you use the site's "ignore" feature, in which I am going to employ right now. :idea:
 
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Matthew 23

37"(AP)Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who (AQ)kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, (AR)the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38"Behold, (AS)your house is being left to you desolate!
39"For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, '(AT)BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!'"
 
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and your point is???
I would take Ezekiel over Enoch any day of the week.......:)

Ezekiel 8:3 And He putteth forth a form of a hand and is taking me by a lock of my head, and a spirit she is lifting me between the Land and the Heavens, and she is bringing me Jerusalem-ward in appearance of Elohiym to portal of gate the inner the one facing north-ward which there a seat of a figure/image of the jealously, the provoking jealously.

Reve 17:3 And he carries me away into a wilderness in spirit, and I saw a Woman sitting on a beast, scarlet, being replete of names of blasphemy having heads, seven, and horns, ten.
 
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1 John 2

1(A)My little children, I am (B)writing these things to you so that you may not sin And if anyone sins, (C)we have an [a](D)Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 2and He Himself is (E)the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also (F)for those of the whole world.
3(G)By this we know that we have come to (H)know Him, if we (I)keep His commandments.
4The one who says, "(J)I have come to (K)know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a (L)liar, and (M)the truth is not in him;
5but whoever (N)keeps His word, in him the (O)love of God has truly been perfected (P)By this we know that we are in Him:
 
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1 John 2

15Do not love (AO)the world nor the things in the world (AP)If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, (AQ)the lust of the flesh and (AR)the lust of the eyes and (AS)the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.
17(AT)The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who (AU)does the will of God lives forever.
 
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1 John 2

25(BK)This is the promise which He Himself made to us: eternal life. 26These things I have written to you concerning those who are trying to (BL)deceive you.
27As for you, the (BM)anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing (BN)teaches you about all things, and is (BO)true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
28Now, (BP)little children, abide in Him, so that when He (BQ)appears, we may have (BR)confidence and (BS)not shrink away from Him in shame at His (BT)coming.
29If you know that (BU)He is righteous, you know that everyone also who practices righteousness (BV)is born of Him.
 
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Jud 1:4 For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
 
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Jud 1:4 For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
May their judgement be swift and painful!!!! :bow:

2Peter 2:1 There became yet also False-Prophets in the people as also in ye shall be False-Teachers who-any shall be carrying in sects of destruction, and the One buying them, Owner/Master/despothn <1203>, disowning-- bringing on them swift destruction. [Matt 24:11/Jude 1:4]

Reve 6:10 And they cry out to a voice, great, saying "till when the Owner/Master/despothV <1203> the Holy and True not Thou are judging and avenging/out-justicing the blood of us out-of the ones homing upon the land?"
 
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1Ti 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (2) Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
 
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Tit 3:1-2 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, (2) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
 
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1Ti 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; (2) Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Matthew 15

7"You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you:
8'(F)THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
9'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING AS (G)DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'"
10After Jesus called the crowd to Him, He said to them, "Hear and understand.
11"(H)It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."
12Then the disciples came and said to Him, "Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?"
13But He answered and said, "(I)Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted.
14"Let them alone; (J)they are blind guides [b]of the blind And (K)if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
 
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Luke 21:9 Whenever yet ye should be hearing battles and tumults/akatastasiaV <181> no may be being dismayed for is binding these to be becoming but not immediately the End

1 Corinthians 14:33 for not is of tulmuts/akatastasiaV <181> the God but of Peace as in all the Outcalleds of the Saints.
 
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(Jud 1:4-5 ) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (5) I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
(8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
(10-13) But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. (11) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. (12) These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; (13) Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
 
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