Bruce Jenner

[HitchSlap]

"And they'll know we are Christians by our love..."

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

The recent media coverage of Bruce Jenner has revealed that he claims to be a Christian. Some might dispute his claim.

It should be everybody, Christian and atheist alike. He's about as much a Christian as I am an atheist. A aging man with children, an ex-wife of decades, and plenty of wealth going and getting a sex change is not 'walking wounded' on a spiritual battlefield. That didn't stop him from a getting a literal medal for courage, though. Where's God on that? Nowhere, it's worldly and absurd, let all that be anathema, he's not a Christian.

 

[HitchSlap]

It should be everybody, Christian and atheist alike. He's about as much a Christian as I am an atheist. A aging man with children, an ex-wife of decades, and plenty of wealth going and getting a sex change is not 'walking wounded' on a spiritual battlefield. That didn't stop him from a getting a literal medal for courage, though. Where's God on that? Nowhere, it's worldly and absurd, let all that be anathema, he's not a Christian.

You would know.

 

[brinny]

..well SOMEBODY had to do it....

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

You would know.

One of the main problems with modern Christianity is abandoning any conceptualization of what a Christian is. We let people run rampant with the title, and then eventually there's a myriad of people misleading each other as well as others.

The Jews would never accept this, the Muslims would never except this- why are Christians?

"And they'll know we are Christians by our love..."

Luke warm lip service. Just perpetuates it all.

 

[brinny]

One of the main problems with modern Christianity is abandoning any conceptualization of what a Christian is. We let people run rampant with the title, and then eventually there's a myriad of people misleading each other as well as others.

The Jews would never accept this, the Muslims would never except this- why are Christians?




Luke warm lip service. Just perpetuates it all.

BIG time.

 

[Cute Tink]

What is the title of this thread?

Cop out.

Bruce is the epitome of narcissist.

Narcissism and altruism are not cohesive. They're complete opposites.

You cannot even define why and now you have jumped to hyperbole?

Bruce is conflicted over using the name "Bruce" and/or "Caitlin", depending on which name benefits him at the moment (it's still on "reserve" if he needs it).

**cough cough opportunist**

There is a need for some serious therapy.

Seriously.

That show was filmed before her name was legally changed. You can keep trying to justify your responses, but you are just being disrespectful.

 

[Cute Tink]

As to some posts in this topic:

 

[Cute Tink]

It should be everybody, Christian and atheist alike. He's about as much a Christian as I am an atheist. A aging man with children, an ex-wife of decades, and plenty of wealth going and getting a sex change is not 'walking wounded' on a spiritual battlefield. That didn't stop him from a getting a literal medal for courage, though. Where's God on that? Nowhere, it's worldly and absurd, let all that be anathema, he's not a Christian.

Not my call to question whether someone believes that Jesus is the son of God and died for our sins.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

Not my call to question whether someone believes that Jesus is the son of God and died for our sins.

An empty belief is not belief. The Bible has all kinds of things to say about this, it's actually amazing that it ever got to a point of people declaring as you just stated.

 

[Cute Tink]

An empty belief is not belief. The Bible has all kinds of things to say about this, it's actually amazing that it ever got to a point of people declaring as you just stated.

You are capable of judging the level of someone else's belief? That's quite an ability.

You can believe that her transition is sinful if you'd like, but Biblical backup is lacking there.

 

[brinny]

Cop out.



You cannot even define why and now you have jumped to hyperbole?



That show was filmed before her name was legally changed. You can keep trying to justify your responses, but you are just being disrespectful.

Bruce Jenner IS drama, and lives and breeeathes it.

He's shnookered ev'rybody (well almost)

He's a self-absorbed narcissist.

 

[Maren]

"And they'll know we are Christians by our love..."

I'm also reminded of Matthew 7:1-3. I really don't think some Christians here would appreciate being judged by God using the standard they are using to judge a celebrity they don't know, making the judgement strictly off of rumor and their own personal bias.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

You are capable of judging the level of someone else's belief? That's quite an ability.

You can believe that her transition is sinful if you'd like, but Biblical backup is lacking there.

Matthew 7:16
You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

Three wives, millions of dollars. He had six children as a man, and has made himself a woman after the age of 60. You've never seen him with a Bible but you've seen him with a medal of courage by a group opposed to God.

There is nothing Christian of his entire life. He chose and lives in a world very much unlike the one God calls us to. Him sitting there calling himself a Christian and other Christians heralding him for it is a complete sham, and an insult to injury in light of what's been going on with Christians under attack.

 

[Cute Tink]

Bruce Jenner IS drama, and lives and breeeathes it.

He's shnookered ev'rybody (well almost)

He's a self-absorbed narcissist.

I understand that you believe that.

 

[Cute Tink]

Matthew 7:16
You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

Three wives, millions of dollars. He had six children as a man, and has made himself a woman after the age of 60. You've never seen him with a Bible but you've seen him with a medal of courage by a group opposed to God.

There is nothing Christian of his entire life. He chose and lives in a world very much unlike the one God calls us to. Him sitting there calling himself a Christian and other Christians heralding him for it is a complete sham, and an insult to injury in light of what's been going on with Christians under attack.

The ESPY's are opposed to God?

I've never seen you with a Bible either. Should I doubt your faith?

As for multiple marriages, millions of dollars and having children, there is no reason why that means a person cannot be Christian.

Being transsexual doesn't mean a person isn't Christian either.

 

[brinny]

I understand that you believe that.

Bruce speaks for himself.

He's a sham who scammed

BIG TIME.

Hey, he's good at it.

Jus' sayin'

 

[Cute Tink]

Bruce speaks for himself.

He's a sham who scammed

BIG TIME.

Hey, he's good at it.

Jus' sayin'

A sham who scammed. What do you even mean by that?

 

[brinny]

A sham who scammed. What do you even mean by that?

Please read it again.

It's self-explanatory.

 

[Cute Tink]

Please read it again.

It's self-explanatory.

Is it that hard to be clear?

A sham? In what way is she a "sham"?

Who is she "scamming" and what is the "scam"?