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No.

According to the horrific accident that blatantly and needlessly caused a senseless death and was so bad that yet one more (at least) vehicle was involved in and fell prey to Bruce Jenner's criminal negligence and not giving a hoot about it.

How do you know she doesn't give a "hoot"?

That's why i stated Bruce Jenner is in need of a diagnosis.

I'm curious as to why you continue to refer to Jenner by one chosen name but won't refer to her by her legal name? "Bruce" was actually her middle name. Why one preferred name but not another?

He should have NEVER gotten the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.

She didn't get it for that.
 
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How do you know she doesn't give a "hoot"?



I'm curious as to why you continue to refer to Jenner by one chosen name but won't refer to her by her legal name? "Bruce" was actually her middle name. Why one preferred name but not another?



She didn't get it for that.

You seriously would like my opinion?

No problem.

Bruce Jenner is possibly one of the biggest scam artists in history.

How much do you know about what went on behind the scenes of the decision behind who to give the award to?
 
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You seriously would like my opinion?

No problem.

Bruce Jenner is possibly one of the biggest scam artists in history.

Because...?

And is that meant to explain why you know she doesn't give a "hoot"?

And why you won't use her legal name, but instead keep using an old preferred nickname?

How much do you know about what went on behind the scenes of the decision behind who to give the award to?

No I don't, but they publicly stated what it was for and it wasn't for causing a car accident. People who win awards are not necessarily perfect outside the reason why they get the award.
 
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Because...?

And is that meant to explain why you know she doesn't give a "hoot"?

And why you won't use her legal name, but instead keep using an old preferred nickname?



No I don't, but they publicly stated what it was for and it wasn't for causing a car accident. People who win awards are not necessarily perfect outside the reason why they get the award.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course.

Mine differs.

Perhaps it would behoove you to research the decision regarding granting the award to Bruce Jenner.

It may be very enlightening.
 
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You are entitled to your opinion, of course.

Mine differs.

Yes, you are free to cast aspersions at people all you want, but don't expect people not to call you on them.

Perhaps it would behoove you to research the decision regarding granting the award to Bruce Jenner.

Will I find that they didn't give her the award for getting into a car accident?

Why do you refuse to answer the simple questions I'm asking you?
 
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For the record:

On the subject of why Jenner was selected for the Ashe Award, Mandt said, “I think Caitlyn’s decision to publicly come out as a transgender woman and live as Caitlyn Jenner displayed enormous courage and self-acceptance. Bruce Jenner could have easily gone off into the sunset as this American hero and never have dealt with this publicly. Doing so took enormous courage. He was one of the greatest athletes of our time. That is what the Arthur Ashe Courage Award is about, somebody from the athletic community who has done something that transcends sport. One of the biggest platforms the Arthur Ashe Foundation has is educational, and I think in this choice we have the opportunity to educate people about this issue and hopefully change and possibly save some lives. I think that is why it was the right choice.”

Mandt said the process of Jenner being selected was the same as it had been in previous years. She and Schell said there are no finalists or runner-ups for Ashe Award. The final decision on the award was made shortly after Mandt met Jenner, which she said did not happen until early May. Mandt said that the process for vetting the Ashe winner includes meeting with the potential recipient and those close to him or her, as well as consulting with people within the community of the winner, and people from the Ashe Foundation.

Source.

Not sure what you think the award was about, but you now have the words of one of the decision makers as to why.
 
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Yes, you are free to cast aspersions at people all you want, but don't expect people not to call you on them.



Will I find that they didn't give her the award for getting into a car accident?

Why do you refuse to answer the simple questions I'm asking you?

Have you researched why Bruce Jenner was given the award?

Bruce Jenner is not noble, nor of good character, from what i have seen.

Your opinion differs?

Why?
 
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For the record:



Source.

Not sure what you think the award was about, but you now have the words of one of the decision makers as to why.

Please continue researching.
 
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Have you researched why Bruce Jenner was given the award?

Bruce Jenner is not noble, nor of good character, from what i have seen.

Your opinion differs?

Why?

I don't know whether she is a noble person or not. She is trying to help out the trans community now.

I don't believe I have the knowledge of who she is to claim that she is narcissistic, a sociopath, "conflicted feelings about females" including ""female-envy" and/or hatred (misogyny)". I am questioning whether you do either. You seem to have this opinion of her because of reasons you cannot explain.

That's why my opinion differs.

How much research have you even done on who she is and what she does?

And why are you still ignoring my questions?
 
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Please continue researching.

Your turn. Link me to why that is incorrect. There's a lot of internet out there and I'm not searching all of it for something you cannot even put into words for me.
 
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I don't know whether she is a noble person or not. She is trying to help out the trans community now.

I don't believe I have the knowledge of who she is to claim that she is narcissistic, a sociopath, "conflicted feelings about females" including ""female-envy" and/or hatred (misogyny)". I am questioning whether you do either. You seem to have this opinion of her because of reasons you cannot explain.

That's why my opinion differs.

How much research have you even done on who she is and what she does?

And why are you still ignoring my questions?

from what you have read, seen, what can you point out that is noble, altruistic, kind, heroic, compassionate, and the antithesis to selfishness/narcissm?
 
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Your turn. Link me to why that is incorrect. There's a lot of internet out there and I'm not searching all of it for something you cannot even put into words for me.

further research is a good thing in this case.....

otherwise, one might be duped into thinking something is so when it isn't.
 
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from what you have read, seen, what can you point out that is noble, altruistic, kind, heroic, compassionate, and the antithesis to selfishness/narcissm?

Her work to improve conditions for trans people.

By the way, you don't have to be the embodiment of the opposite of narcissism to not be a narcissist.

further research is a good thing in this case.....

otherwise, one might be duped into thinking something is so when it isn't.

By all means, tell me what I'm missing. I am not going to search the internet if I don't even know what you want me to see.
 
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Again: her legal name is Caitlyn. Her first name was never "Bruce". It was her middle name. Why do you keep calling her by one preferred name over the legal one?

What is the title of this thread?
 
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Her work to improve conditions for trans people.

By the way, you don't have to be the embodiment of the opposite of narcissism to not be a narcissist.



By all means, tell me what I'm missing. I am not going to search the internet if I don't even know what you want me to see.

Bruce is the epitome of narcissist.

Narcissism and altruism are not cohesive. They're complete opposites.
 
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Bruce is conflicted over using the name "Bruce" and/or "Caitlin", depending on which name benefits him at the moment (it's still on "reserve" if he needs it).

**cough cough opportunist**

There is a need for some serious therapy.

Seriously.

 
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