Border Crisis

[ralliann]

All children matter. And our country can take care of our own children and take steps to address the root causes of illegal immigration in places like Guatemala. They are not mutually exclusive.

Well when we take care sufficiently of our own then we can worry about helping other nations to address their own problems. Legal immigration should be our concern as a nation. Plenty of people legally immigrate here, and have done so since this nation began.

 

[Valletta]

He made deals or no deals i believe concerning trade with Mexico based upon their co operation on enforcing their own borders. Biden has not kept border enforcement period. He has invited them in.

Joe canceled Operation Talon, and thus there is going to be more sex trafficking.

All children matter. And our country can take care of our own children and take steps to address the root causes of illegal immigration in places like Guatemala. They are not mutually exclusive.

Joe Biden is the biggest cause of illegal child immigration from Guatemala at this time. While Joe is obviously cognitively impaired it is hard to say how long the major media can hide the truth. The people of this country need to wake up and act.

 

[Ringo84]

We can take care of our own and people in other countries that also need help. Multi-tasking exists.

"We have to take care of our own" is just an excuse for inaction. The people who tend to say things like that don't care about either "our" people or immigrants; they just don't want those people in our country.
Ringo

 

[ralliann]

Joe canceled Operation Talon, and thus there is going to be more sex trafficking.

Joe Biden is the biggest cause of illegal child immigration from Guatemala at this time. While Joe is obviously cognitively impaired it is hard to say how long the major media can hide the truth. The people of this country need to wake up and act.

Yes, I agree Joe is the cause. I am not hopeful concerning the media. So many are no longer just journalists, but activists. It is quite difficult for them to speak to problems they themselves helped to create. As one of the accusers of Cuomo said, Andrew Cuomo became so bold because (in her opinion) he belived he was invincible. The media had so exalted him that he could do pretty much as he pleased. I think that sentiment is true.

 

[Always in His Presence]

"Chain migration" is a scare term for the very simple and understandable phenomenon of one family member preceding the rest of their family immigrating to a country. To people who think that brown people are scary and gross, I'm sure this seems extremely frightening. To the rest of us, it doesn't.

Request: Please stop using the 'brown people scary" tactic - as a "little brown man", it is highly offensive and rude. You want to make a stand on racism, use your own race and leave mine out of your conversations. IMHO it is just as racist. Please stop.

Which news source, I've never heard or read it on FoxNews.
I don't think the poster that I was speaking with knows either so maybe you can enlighten both of us? Thanks

I didn't make the claim, but it has been discussed in any number of places over the last four years.

You can find loads of info if you are willing to utilize Google:

Oh, look!

Mexico meets migrants at southern border with armed forces

Mexico meets migrants at southern border with armed forces

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican soldiers, armed police and migration officials blocked hundreds of migrants after they crossed the border from Guatemala in a caravan into southern Mexico on Wednesday, and detained dozens of them, a witness from a migrant aid group and an official said.
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The operation in Chiapas coincided with a meeting of Mexican and U.S. officials at the White House on Wednesday to thrash out a deal that would avoid blanket tariffs on Mexico threatened by U.S. President Donald Trump last week.

Trump announced the tariffs in retaliation for what he called Mexico’s failure to stop Central American migrants from reaching the U.S. border.
​

Well looky there - less than 22 seconds and there is an article from Rueters showing how President Trump stopped the practice in cooperation with Mexico.

But wait! There is more!

Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scares Migrants From Crossing (Published 2019)

Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scares Migrants From Crossing
​

How many more would you like, it only takes seconds....

Mexico stops at sothern border at DuckDuckGo

 

[ralliann]

Request: Please stop using the 'brown people scary" tactic - as a "little brown man", it is highly offensive and rude. You want to make a stand on racism, use your own race and leave mine out of your conversations. IMHO it is just as racist. Please stop.



I didn't make the claim, but it has been discussed in any number of places over the last four years.

You can find loads of info if you are willing to utilize Google:

Oh, look!

Mexico meets migrants at southern border with armed forces

Mexico meets migrants at southern border with armed forces

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican soldiers, armed police and migration officials blocked hundreds of migrants after they crossed the border from Guatemala in a caravan into southern Mexico on Wednesday, and detained dozens of them, a witness from a migrant aid group and an official said.
​

The operation in Chiapas coincided with a meeting of Mexican and U.S. officials at the White House on Wednesday to thrash out a deal that would avoid blanket tariffs on Mexico threatened by U.S. President Donald Trump last week.

Trump announced the tariffs in retaliation for what he called Mexico’s failure to stop Central American migrants from reaching the U.S. border.
​

Well looky there - less than 22 seconds and there is an article from Rueters showing how President Trump stopped the practice in cooperation with Mexico.

But wait! There is more!

Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scares Migrants From Crossing (Published 2019)

Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scares Migrants From Crossing
​

How many more would you like, it only takes seconds....

Mexico stops at sothern border at DuckDuckGo

Yep and just what color is ruling in these peoples government to create such awful conditions? Guatamalans are in charge of the guatamalan government. Same with the other countries. So obviously color has nothing to do with it. It's a part of the human condition period. That is why our founding fathers attempted to create a country with branches of power, originating from the people. They knew full well how much power can corrupt, due to the human condition of weakness in much. Skin color has not a wit to do with it.

 

[Ringo84]

Yep and just what color is ruling in these peoples government to create such awful conditions? Guatamalans are in charge of the guatamalan government. Same with the other countries. So obviously color has nothing to do with it. It's a part of the human condition period. That is why our founding fathers attempted to create a country with branches of power, originating from the people. They knew full well how much power can corrupt, due to the human condition of weakness in much. Skin color has not a wit to do with it.

The Guatemalan government didn't "create" anything; we did with our terrible Central American policies. Now these people are migrating here because we broke their countries, but we're too afraid of "scary" caravans to give a single thought for these people.

You squawk that "it's not about skin color", but you're the one who was assuming that migrants were engaging in child trafficking and heaven knows what's else. Assuming things about people based on their circumstances seems discriminatory to me.
Ringo

 

[Ringo84]

Request: Please stop using the 'brown people scary" tactic - as a "little brown man", it is highly offensive and rude. You want to make a stand on racism, use your own race and leave mine out of your conversations. IMHO it is just as racist. Please stop.

Being "a little brown man" yourself, you should join us in advocating against racist claptrap like assuming that migrants "bring disease" or are engaging in child trafficking. Hope this helps.
Ringo

 

[Speedwell]

Yep and just what color is ruling in these peoples government to create such awful conditions? Guatamalans are in charge of the guatamalan government.

No, not Guatemalans. Kleptocrats and drug lords are in charge of Guatemala.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Being "a little brown man" yourself, you should join us in advocating against racist claptrap like assuming that migrants "bring disease" or are engaging in child trafficking. Hope this helps.
Ringo

Being the son of a legal immigrant and a “little brown man”. I find your dismissing of my request to advance your political position as dismissing and rude.

is my race only valid to you when it matches your political stance? Is that the only time you show a modicum of decency and respect for a race other than your own?

I will ask you a second time to stop.

 

[Hank77]

Joe canceled Operation Talon, and thus there is going to be more sex trafficking.

According to ICE, Operation Talon wasn't a project until Jan. of this year and hadn't taken effect before Biden took office. ICE was the agency that decided to put it on a temporary hold. This doesn't mean that these criminals aren't be picked up and deported Ice is still doing so under the same program as before, a division of SOAR.

An official from DHS told Reuters via email that Operation Talon was not canceled, but postponed, and that the logistical decision to delay the schedule was made by operator-level officers, not the Biden administration or DHS leadership. (ICE is an agency operating under DHS.)

The DHS representative explained that Operation Talon is part of a larger and longstanding initiative known as Operation SOAR (“Sex Offender Alien Removal”), which is still ongoing (here).

You can always check out the program/s on the ICE or DHS.gov pages.

 

[Speedwell]

Being the son of a legal immigrant and a “little brown man”. I find your dismissing of my request to advance your political position as dismissing and rude.

is my race only valid to you when it matches your political stance? Is that the only time you show a modicum of decency and respect for a race other than your own?

I will ask you a second time to stop.

You think that there are no right-wingers who oppose granting asylum to Central Americans because they are mostly Roman Catholic people of color?

But why are these Central American refugees considered such a threat compared to ordinary economic migrants from Mexico?

 

[wing2000]

Joe canceled Operation Talon, and thus there is going to be more sex trafficking.

Are you sure about that?

What's True
"Operation Talon," a program planned in the final weeks of the Trump administration aimed at deporting sex offenders, was suspended by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

What's False
The Biden administration had "nothing to do with this decision," according to an ICE official. Homeland Security Investigations, a division of ICE, still investigates sex crimes committed by noncitizens.

What's Undetermined
It's unclear whether or not Operation Talon was ever in operation. It is also unclear whether the suspension is temporary or permanent, though officials have referred to ICE's new guidelines as "interim."

Did Biden Cancel Operation Talon?

Joe Biden is the biggest cause of illegal child immigration from Guatemala at this time. While Joe is obviously cognitively impaired it is hard to say how long the major media can hide the truth. The people of this country need to wake up and act.

How is Biden the biggest cause of illegal child immigration?

 

[wing2000]

According to ICE, Operation Talon wasn't a project until Jan. of this year and hadn't taken effect before Biden took office. ICE was the agency that decided to put it on a temporary hold. This doesn't mean that these criminals aren't be picked up and deported Ice is still doing so under the same program as before, a division of SOAR.

An official from DHS told Reuters via email that Operation Talon was not canceled, but postponed, and that the logistical decision to delay the schedule was made by operator-level officers, not the Biden administration or DHS leadership. (ICE is an agency operating under DHS.)

The DHS representative explained that Operation Talon is part of a larger and longstanding initiative known as Operation SOAR (“Sex Offender Alien Removal”), which is still ongoing (here).

You can always check out the program/s on the ICE or DHS.gov pages.

Thank you.

 

[rambot]

Joe canceled Operation Talon, and thus there is going to be more sex trafficking.

False
Fact check: Decision to postpone Operation Talon was made by ICE and not Biden administration, DHS says

Joe Biden is the biggest cause of illegal child immigration from Guatemala at this time..

The biggest "cause"?
There are "push" and "pull" factors that people to choose to immigrate. Do you HONESTLY think that some 6 year old Guatemalan is SOOOOOO enamoured with Biden that they will FINALLY choose to risk death to immigrate to the US?
Or is it possible that the lack of safety in Guatemala is, maybe, a bigger cause.

 

[Always in His Presence]

You think that there are no right-wingers who oppose granting asylum to Central Americans because they are mostly Roman Catholic people of color?

But why are these Central American refugees considered such a threat compared to ordinary economic migrants from Mexico?

I have an issue using the terminology

 

[wing2000]

Well when we take care sufficiently of our own then we can worry about helping other nations to address their own problems. Legal immigration should be our concern as a nation. Plenty of people legally immigrate here, and have done so since this nation began.

Illegal immigration is our problem to solve together with the countries from which people flee. For four decades plus, we Americans have exploited illegal labor and funded criminal enterprises (cartels) through our demand for illegal drugs. I reject any notion that we can simply put up a wall and pretend that we - as Americans - are not part of the problem....and the solution.

 

[Hank77]

Request: Please stop using the 'brown people scary" tactic - as a "little brown man", it is highly offensive and rude. You want to make a stand on racism, use your own race and leave mine out of your conversations. IMHO it is just as racist. Please stop.



I didn't make the claim, but it has been discussed in any number of places over the last four years.

You can find loads of info if you are willing to utilize Google:

Oh, look!

Mexico meets migrants at southern border with armed forces

Mexico meets migrants at southern border with armed forces

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican soldiers, armed police and migration officials blocked hundreds of migrants after they crossed the border from Guatemala in a caravan into southern Mexico on Wednesday, and detained dozens of them, a witness from a migrant aid group and an official said.
​

The operation in Chiapas coincided with a meeting of Mexican and U.S. officials at the White House on Wednesday to thrash out a deal that would avoid blanket tariffs on Mexico threatened by U.S. President Donald Trump last week.

Trump announced the tariffs in retaliation for what he called Mexico’s failure to stop Central American migrants from reaching the U.S. border.
​

Well looky there - less than 22 seconds and there is an article from Rueters showing how President Trump stopped the practice in cooperation with Mexico.

But wait! There is more!

Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scares Migrants From Crossing (Published 2019)

Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scares Migrants From Crossing
​

How many more would you like, it only takes seconds....

Mexico stops at sothern border at DuckDuckGo

Thank you, I appreciate your help.

What I'm getting from this is that there wasn't any written deal that Biden canceled. Trump threatened Mexico with tariffs in order to get them to comply.

It appears that Biden hasn't threatened Mexico with tariffs. Is that correct?
Maybe he should? What is your opinion?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Thank you, I appreciate your help.

What I'm getting from this is that there wasn't any written deal that Biden canceled. Trump threatened Mexico with tariffs in order to get them to comply.

It appears that Biden hasn't threatened Mexico with tariffs. Is that correct?
Maybe he should? What is your opinion?

If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.

 

[ralliann]

No, not Guatemalans. Kleptocrats and drug lords are in charge of Guatemala.

Oh so Guatemalans are a morally superior race that cannot be drug Lords or kleptocrats?