Bible Translations

[Archie the Preacher]

"The population of London is very dense." Unknown English comedian to a largely American (soldier) audience during World War II. (Legend has it all the Americans cheered and the Brits looked puzzled.)

 

[Shibolet]

I've used NIV almost my whole life, I don't know why but I've always favoured that one and it never seems to make other people's most accurate translation lists. What are everyone's top three?

And I have always used the JPS which is a Jewish translation of the Tanach. For my studies of the NT, I like to use the KJV and the NAB aka New American Bible. So, I consider my top three, first and foremost the JPS, then next the KJV and the NAB.

 

[now faith]

And I have always used the JPS which is a Jewish translation of the Tanach. For my studies of the NT, I like to use the KJV and the NAB aka New American Bible. So, I consider my top three, first and foremost the JPS, then next the KJV and the NAB.

Why?
Here is a qoute from you in nondenominational
QUOTE =Shibolet
Jesus was a Jew and for that matter, he could have never compared himself
with HaShem. Don't forget that Hellenists wrote the NT.This is an evidence that not even a single Jew wrote a single page of the NT.
Un QUOTE

 

[Dave-W]

Grammar nazi speaking!

I don' make me no nevermind ....

 

[Shibolet]

Why?
Here is a qoute from you in nondenominational
QUOTE =Shibolet
Jesus was a Jew and for that matter, he could have never compared himself
with HaShem. Don't forget that Hellenists wrote the NT.This is an evidence that not even a single Jew wrote a single page of the NT.

Although a Hellenist Jew was allowed to keep his Jewish identity, the Hellenists who wrote the NT were no longer Jewish but Christians former disciples of Paul, also a Hellenist who lost his Jewish identity to found Christianity in the city of Antioch if you read Acts 11:26.

 

[now faith]

Although a Hellenist Jew was allowed to keep his Jewish identity, the Hellenists who wrote the NT were no longer Jewish but Christians former disciples of Paul, also a Hellenist who lost his Jewish identity to found Christianity in the city of Antioch if you read Acts 11:26.

That was not stated in your other post,nevertheless you are teaching Christ is not part of the God head in a Baptist Fourm.

 

[DeaconDean]

Although a Hellenist Jew was allowed to keep his Jewish identity, the Hellenists who wrote the NT were no longer Jewish but Christians former disciples of Paul, also a Hellenist who lost his Jewish identity to found Christianity in the city of Antioch if you read Acts 11:26.

Ah hum...what about Matthew, Mark, John, and Peter? Were they disciples of Paul?

I am aware that at least 8 maybe 9 of the NT books written were by these individuals.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Shibolet]

That was not stated in your other post,nevertheless you are teaching Christ is not part of the God head in a Baptist Fourm.

Probably because that's a Jew speaking the truth about another Jew. Did you know that Jesus was a Jewish man? I hope so. He would not agree with your
anti-Christ theology that he was part of a Hellenistic Trinity.

 

[Shibolet]

Ah hum...what about Matthew, Mark, John, and Peter? Were they disciples of Paul?

I am aware that at least 8 maybe 9 of the NT books written were by these individuals.

God Bless

Till all are one.

The real Matthew, Mark, John, and Peter were all Jews whom the Hellenists attributed their gospels to them in the hope to enhance their writings with apostolic credibility but they themselves never wrote a page into the NT. Jews
would not write against their own Faith.

 

[Shibolet]

Why?
Here is a qoute from you in nondenominational
QUOTE =Shibolet
Jesus was a Jew and for that matter, he could have never compared himself
with HaShem. Don't forget that Hellenists wrote the NT.This is an evidence that not even a single Jew wrote a single page of the NT.
Un QUOTE

Okay! Have I said any thing not true?

 

[Geralt]

i previously used the NIV.

now i also used these 3 for variety in reading and study:

1. NKJV study bible ; KJV Westminster Bible
2. RSB & MacArthur ESV study bible
3. The Complete Jewish Study Bible

! Cheers

 

[DeaconDean]

The real Matthew, Mark, John, and Peter were all Jews whom the Hellenists attributed their gospels to them in the hope to enhance their writings with apostolic credibility but they themselves never wrote a page into the NT. Jews
would not write against their own Faith.

Then I guess we are in disagreement.

Therefore, I must respectfully ask your to "cease" debating here. It is apparent that you are not a Baptist, therefore by the rules of this area, you are not entitled to debate here.

According to the rules, you may post in fellowship, but you are not allowed to debate here.

In addition, if you are not a member of this faith group, you may not debate issues or teach against it's theology. You may post in fellowship. Active promotion of views contrary to the established teachings of this group will be considered off topic.

Source

Your opinion has been made, it is noted, therefore you must cease debating.

Thank you.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Shibolet]

Then I guess we are in disagreement. Therefore, I must respectfully ask your to "cease" debating here. It is apparent that you are not a Baptist, therefore by the rules of this area, you are not entitled to debate here.

According to the rules, you may post in fellowship, but you are not allowed to debate here. Source Your opinion has been made, it is noted, therefore you must cease debating. Thank you. God Bless. Till all are one.

Wait! Don't shoot so fast! Did you know that there is no learning in the chit-chattering of common beliefs? Wisemen usually say that learning comes only
from controversies. The first time we meet, you already have your finger on the trigger? Wait! We might still learn a thing or two from each other. Do you agree that Jesus was a Jewish man? If so, he taught us to listen to "Moses" aka the Law. (Luke 16:29-31) As you can see, Jesus and I share the same Faith with each other. I thought you could be more friendly with Jesus' coreligionists.

 

[DeaconDean]

According to the rules, you may post in fellowship, but you are not allowed to debate here.

Source

Your opinion has been made, it is noted, therefore you must cease debating.

Thank you.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Michael Snow]

List of major textual variants in the New Testament - Wikipedia

The Textus Receptus is the most accurate and complete scripture we have ....

NO evangelical New Testament scholar would affirm that. KJVOnly has become a cult beyond reason (loving God with all our mind).

 

[now faith]

NO evangelical New Testament scholar would affirm that. KJVOnly has become a cult beyond reason (loving God with all our

 

[DeaconDean]

A cult beyond reason?
Wouldent it be ironic if the circumstances were reversed?
But the devil is a liar,so who knows?

KJVOnlyism elevates the King James Version to a level it should not be.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[OzSpen]

A cult beyond reason?
Wouldent it be ironic if the circumstances were reversed?
But the devil is a liar,so who knows?

KJV only promoters seem to be oblivious to the facts that:

• The Textus Receptus (TR) from which the KJV NT is translated was based on only about 6 late MSS compiled by Erasmus.
  
• Of these, not one MSS was found that contained the last 6 verses of the Book of Revelation. How did he know there were 6 verses in addition to those in the TR? He had access to the Latin Vulgate.
• So what did Erasmus do? He translated these 6 verses from Latin to Greek and added them to his MSS. However, since that time, not one MSS has been found that agrees exactly with the Greek translation by Erasmus.
• Thousands of earlier MSS, including parts of MSS, have been found since Erasmus gathered his MSS. These confirm that Erasmus used Greek MSS that ADDED material to earlier MSS. Examples include Mk 16:9-20.

I'd recommend a read of, 'The Majority Text and the Original Text: Are They Identical?' (Daniel Wallace), to gain a more comprehensive understanding of the issues.

Oz

 

[TaylorSexton]

Just for fairness, I would recommend reading this article by a well-respected textual critic and scholar, Maurice Robinson. Please note that I am not a promoter of either text, although I primarily use the critical. I am very intrigued by Robinson's arguments in this article.

 

[now faith]

KJVOnlyism elevates the King James Version to a level it should not be.

God Bless

Till all are one.

I never thought I would see the day,that Christians consider people who rely on the King James Bible part of a cult.
That's the only reason I posted anything,not to debate Bibles anymore.