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Beware That Swine Flu Shot / Watch This CBS Video

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During the great Swine Flu scare of 1976 ~ 46 million Americans took the vaccine and 4000 ended up seeking damages which amounted to 3.5 Billion dollars. Most of the problems were neurological and death. Mike Wallace nailed the Center for Disease Control official in a 60 Minutes interview that was only shown once and is eerily similar to the current Swine Flu scare : Allen L Roland

According to the Department of Health and Human Services, the federal government is committing more than $800 million to buy more of the two key ingredients to make the H1N1 swine flu vaccine .


Unfortunately many mandatory vaccines are thinly-veiled attempts to grow the pandemic in order to enrich the coffers of US pharmaceutical and security corporations ~ who are sometimes the actual architects of the flu pandemic.

OpEdNews - Article: Beware That Swine Flu Shot / Watch This CBS Video

Chances Are Your Doctor Will Not Get the Flu Vaccine. Does He know Something You Don’t?

http://www.optimumhealthreport.com/articles/flu-vaccine.asp

Flu shots are virtually worthless according to the British Medical Journal!

http://www.optimumhealthreport.com/articles/worthless-flu-shots.asp

Flu Pandemic Hype: Another Pretext for World Government
2009 April 28


April 27, 2009

During the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) Summit in Montebello, Canada in 2005, the “three amigos” (Bush, Harper and Calderon) released “North American Plan for Avian and Pandemic Influenza,” described as a “collaborative North American approach that recognizes that controlling the spread of avian influenza or a novel strain of human influenza, with minimal economic disruption, is in the best interest of all three countries.” The plan outlines how “Canada, Mexico and the United States intend to work together to prepare for and manage avian and pandemic influenza.”


http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/flu-pandemic-hype-another-pretext-for-world-government/


Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
Last Updated: 27th February 2009, 3:26pm


http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html

Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor
(NaturalNews) There's a popular medical thriller novel in which a global pandemic is intentionally set off by an evil plot designed to reduce the human population. In the book, a nefarious drug company inserts live avian flu viruses into vaccine materials that are distributed to countries around the world to be injected into patients as "flu shots." Those patients then become carriers for these highly-virulent strains of avian flu which go on to infect the world population and cause widespread death.

There's only one problem with this story: It's not fiction. Or, at least, the part about live avian flu viruses being inserted into vaccine materials isn't fiction. It's happening right now.

http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html

Obama urges Americans to get swine flu shot
updated 2:59 p.m. ET, Tues., Sept . 1, 2009


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32645510/ns/health/?gt1=43001
 
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My wife(works in Dr office in Indiana), says the health dept there won't be offering
the vaccine to the general public.
The VA said they would be extensively vaccinating.

If the health dept doesn't offer vaccine, they will have to scramble to catch up, and Goverment involved in healthcare will be a negitive.

I have wondered why the H1N1 explodes in colleges. Seems some lower education have had explosions of cases.
I do not believe in vast conspiracies, so I have no reasons why the numbers are booming after school starts.
Tranfered in School books, or papers sealed until used in class? My reasoning: Look at the start of the H1N1, it transfered slowly and originated in or near Mexico. But all the sudden it is transfering quickly?
 
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Soblessed, there doesn't seem to be a single conspiracy theory you haven't promoted on these forums.

Unless you can disprove them I don't think you have anything to say!

You go right ahead and stand in line for your "death shot"!:doh:
 
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My wife(works in Dr office in Indiana), says the health dept there won't be offering
the vaccine to the general public.
The VA said they would be extensively vaccinating.

If the health dept doesn't offer vaccine, they will have to scramble to catch up, and Goverment involved in healthcare will be a negitive.

I have wondered why the H1N1 explodes in colleges. Seems some lower education have had explosions of cases.
I do not believe in vast conspiracies, so I have no reasons why the numbers are booming after school starts.
Tranfered in School books, or papers sealed until used in class? My reasoning: Look at the start of the H1N1, it transfered slowly and originated in or near Mexico. But all the sudden it is transfering quickly?

Might it have something to do with forcing students into close quarters for hous on end with others? Also, at college, one is far less likely to skip even when sick for the mere fact you will miss so much more than at public school. That and the cafeteria is down right stupid about how they serve the food, leading to germs transfering like wildfire.
 
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vaccines are toxic. What do you think they make them out of?

My brother in law is a resp therapist at the hospital here and they are saying that most of us have already been exposed and built up a natural immunity. The regualr flu, and the swin flu vaccine, are more of a threat than swine flu.


So, just be wise and be hygenic. It's generally a good idea anyways.
 
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vaccines are toxic.
No, no they really arent. If you follow the CDC vaccination schedule, you'll be fine.

What do you think they make them out of?
Dead bits of the target microorganism to stimulate the immune system into being more prepared when the real bug comes along.

My brother in law is a resp therapist at the hospital here and they are saying that most of us have already been exposed and built up a natural immunity. The regualr flu, and the swin flu vaccine, are more of a threat than swine flu.
While I agree that the swine flu is not as much of a threat as people say it is, we have most certainly not built up an immunity to the influenza virus.


So, just be wise and be hygenic. It's generally a good idea anyways.[/quote]
 
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yes, they are toxic. They are made of things that are poisonous. They use a minute amount, but they are toxic nonethe less. Plus, the preservatives and other little treats.

Vaccine Ingredients - Formaldehyde, Aspartame, Mercury, Etc

Boy am I glad you pointed out that immunity has not likely been bult up. I was about to believe my doctors and friends in the industry.
 
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Soblessed, there doesn't seem to be a single conspiracy theory you haven't promoted on these forums.

A little melodramatic arent we?

The idea that vaccinations are somehow toxic is so far beyond the realm of rationality I wonder why anyone gives it any thought.


And CBS is not to be believed either,huh?:doh:

Like I said,you go right ahead and jump in line for your "death shot",can't say there wasn't plenty of evidence that you chose to ridicule!
 
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yes, they are toxic. They are made of things that are poisonous. They use a minute amount, but they are toxic nonethe less. Plus, the preservatives and other little treats.

Vaccine Ingredients - Formaldehyde, Aspartame, Mercury, Etc

Boy am I glad you pointed out that immunity has not likely been bult up. I was about to believe my doctors and friends in the industry.
Oh good GODS I am sick of this garbage!

This "list of ingredients" cites no sources, no studies, and doesn't even lay out which vaccine the list is allegedly for. On top of that, the list is hosted on a site where the guy is selling OxyCut and links to half a dozen other ad services including HempUSA.

You get exponentially more of what any vaccine contains in the food you eat than you do out of any vaccine.

Like I said,you go right ahead and jump in line for your "death shot",can't say there wasn't plenty of evidence that you chose to ridicule!
I dont plan to get the shot because I'm not concerned about swine flu, its not serious and is rarely life-threatening. I will however be getting my influenza vaccination :)

Your "evidence" is suspect at best.
 
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LOL at least I have evidence and I am not just spouting the party line of the scaremongers in Washington
Planning on backing that list up with anything concrete or are you just going to avoid the topic?

If you dont have anything, be a man, put your cards down, and walk away; dont try a song and dance to keep in the game.
 
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follow the links.....and notice in the first link about what is in vaccines there is contact info for the sources...the people who make the meds (which I would take as a reliable source because they know what they made the stuff out of)

try these too

A Breakdown of What's in Vaccines

INFORMED CHOICE - Cocktail

go ahead and rant and try to call me out, it only makes you look ignorant and unreasonable
 
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follow the links.....and notice in the first link about what is in vaccines there is contact info for the sources...the people who make the meds (which I would take as a reliable source because they know what they made the stuff out of)

try these too

A Breakdown of What's in Vaccines

INFORMED CHOICE - Cocktail

go ahead and rant and try to call me out, it only makes you look ignorant and unreasonable
FINALLY! Was that so hard?

Ok, lets take a look at the list of ingredients.

Aluminum hydroxide- Ooohhhh scary sounding stuff, better tell that to the Tums people because it's used as an antacid. It's also been shown to help the body produce antibodies that bolster the immune response
Immunology and Cell Biology - Abstract of article: Vaccine adjuvants: Current state and future trends

Thimerosal- FAIL, Thimerosal is currently used in only one vaccine in the US and even then in trace amounts only. It is an organo-mercuric compound that has not been shown to bio accumulate.

Amonium sulfate- Hope you dont eat bread if this scares you
Official SUBWAY Restaurants U.S. PRODUCT INGREDIENTS GUIDE

Benzethonium- Aka benzethonium chloride AAAAA! Save me from the scary science-y sounding words! This stuff is used in topical antibiotic ointments the world over, it's also found in mouthwash

Phenoxyethenol- Yet annother antiseptic used in creams and insect repellent from Boston to Shanghai.

Sodium bicarbonate- WHAT!? What in the name of all that's holy is SODIUM BICARB doing on a list of "toxic" ingredients!? Its BAKING SODA! Dear GODS the people who put this list together knew less than nothing about chemistry.

Polydimethylsiloxane- Scary sounding again...except that it's also a food additive; an anti-caking agent

Sorbitol- Wow, really? Sorbitol? Its sugar. Its flipping sugar. You eat POUNDS of it every year.

Do you see where this is going? Virtually nothing on that list is as insidious as they make it sound and almost all of it is something you consume in far greater quantities with your daily life than you'll ever receive in a lifetime of vaccines.

The vast majority of it is present in such small quantities as to be statistically negligible. You receive small doses of highly toxic chemicals every single day and still manage to keep on chuggin'.

This anti-vaccination hysteria is based off of true stupidity and a willful refusal to do even the most BASIC research.

I still have yet to see any actual sources for any of these ingredient lists.

Also, from the page,

"Many vaccines still contain thimerosal (49.6% ethylmercury by weight.)"

FAIL.

Institute for Vaccine Safety - Thimerosal Table
 
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My brother in law is a resp therapist at the hospital here and they are saying that most of us have already been exposed and built up a natural immunity.

People born before 1957 may have some immunity. The types of flu virus to which we older Baby Boomers were exposed apparently have some similarities to H1N1. In the documented H1N1 outbreaks so far, a much higher percentage of younger than older people had to hospitalized with severe symptoms.

I work in health care. My hospital requires me to get the regular flu vaccine every year, and H1N1 will be required also. I'm not allowed to have patient contact--meaning I can't work--if I'm not vaccinated.

But I also don't think H1N1 will be as bad as some are predicting.
 
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go ahead laugh and deny there's anything to be concerned about there is a real reason why so many doctors and others in the medical industry are concerned and won't take the stuff. You do realize there is a difference betwen topical, inhaled, injected, and oral intake of these substances right? Some things are safe on the skin and are dangerous to swallow, for example. There also a reason why some labels say to not use them in your eyes.

you can just wash it all down with your koolaid, though, no worries
 
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