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Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
They are coming to take the city by force----if they have their way--they'd kill everyone inside and take over. Perhaps you would prefer that. This is every killer, rapist, every child rapist--Hitler and every other mass murderer--what do you think they are going to do if they take the city---have cookies and milk?
I was challenging your earlier statement below. Compare bold emphasis (mine) in both quotes.As I said---you have to accept His sacrifice---otherwise---it does you no good. That's why Jesus calls them lost. They are not temporarily misplaced---they are lost. Jesus paid the price for all sinners---but you must believe in Him and, if possible be baptized -- If you do not accept Him---He isn't going to shove salvation down your throat.
Jesus was resurrected---and we will be too---but there is no resurrection from the 2nd death. He paid the price for the saved---not for the lost!
I stepped in when I read the post. It seemed better that I should speak on his behalf than leave him to self-defense. I would have done the same for you if someone would have made such obviously erroneous statements against you.If you have taken offense it wasn't meant to be taken that way. I just call it the way I see it and expect you to do the same.
We are trying to explain to you that there are translation issues. This position is not held by Universalists alone. It is widely know that the Bible has translation issues. We are focusing on the ones that have to do with UR, but there are many. Lazarus Short is doing a great job trying to explain these to you. But you seem to be blinded by your hypervigilance. (fear) It seems that your responses are driven by emotion. I suggest you lay down your weapons and talk to us like fellow believers. Does that seem reasonable?Well, I take Gods Word at face value, I have no reason not to on the subject of hell.
You can explain to God, when you meet Him, why you chose to see it otherwise.
I gave you an opportunity to prove yourself in the post below. (post #1493 page 75) Alas, I see no response.I was saying that Steven is unreasonable by questioning the plainly written Word of God.
Let's try it.
Using the surrounding context below, explain why 1 John 2:2 and Romans 11:32 don't mean exactly what they say.
1 John 2:1-3
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands.
Romans 11:30-33
Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
How unsearchable his judgments,
and his paths beyond tracing out!
He is the Lifeguard of all lifeguards!
This is an interesting point.Yes, as per Isaiah 42-53, Israel's God-given mission was to be a lifeguard to the nations, but Israel fell into the pool and forgot how to swim, so God sent His second lifeguard to save those who were drowning, and to also revive those floating face-down on the surface. Praise be to the all-resuscitating lifeguard of lifeguards.
This is an interesting point.
On one hand the Israelites were to be a separate people, but on the other hand a light to the nations. Peter made this statement below at the house of Cornelius.
Acts 10:28
He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.
Even these scriptures indicate the separateness of Israel. The "aliens" received a blessing when they were joined to Israel, but it never worked the other way.So show your love for the alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt. (De 10:19)
"And in the tribe with which the alien stays, there you shall give him his inheritance," declares the Lord GOD. (Ez 47:23)
Even these scriptures indicate the separateness of Israel. The "aliens" received a blessing when they were joined to Israel, but it never worked the other way.
Even the Sabbath commandment applied to "any foreigner residing in your towns."
Exodus 20:10
but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns.
Yes. The parable of the Good Samaritan was a major slam on them.Right, that's why the Jews hated the Samaritans as well, who were the mixed progeny of captives taken by the Assyrians, I heard..?
They're a racist bunch to this day. Have a look at Israel's residency policies.
Yes. The parable of the Good Samaritan was a major slam on them.
I try to cut the nation of Israel a bit of slack. It is amazing that they are still there. They are surrounded and literally swimming in enemies. They spend their days dodging a hail of bullets and reading the news about yesterday's bombings.
Nope.Have you read a book called the Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler?
Nope.
I have heard of the "lost tribes" garbage though.
The Thirteenth Tribe - WikipediaNope.
I have heard of the "lost tribes" garbage though.
None of this really matters. An age is such a vast length of time it’s as close to infinity in human perspective so as to make no difference. A trillion trillion years is a very very long time.
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