Benny Hinn - True or False

[Blade]

13 pages later.. so what did you come up with? More hope more faith more pointing to Christ?

I just read about slain in the spirit. 1st let me say this. I have NEVER meet someone that is NOT of God. be it a spirit that can say "Jesus came in the flesh.. Jesus died for the sins of the world. Jesus rose the 3rd day. Jesus is the only way to the Father. Its by the blood of Jesus we are washed and saved"

So in my 20's in Spokane Wa in Glad tidings Church (wow.. I cant believe I remember that name. wow) a preacher came. The way I ended up there was I was working on night where my mom worked. I over heard her on the phone talk about people that got prayed for and feel down. I asked if I could go with her. See I just get got out of "jail juvenile" well.. we FOUND motorcycles and took them. What we told them. Stole them duh

Well people had there hands up.. worshiping God. The preacher says.. is there anyone here that wants to experience the power of God? I thought. I do. So I go up there. The mans back was to me. He just turned around put on finger on my forehead. Said "in JESUS NAME". I open my eyes.. I am on my back.. on the ground. I start to get up.. something hit my feet...like electricity. Shot right into my chest.. WOW it was SO wonderful so beautiful. I lol tried to keep going back to get that again.. but.. only happen once.

There are people and MOST that just fall. There was another preacher I went to see. He asked to pray for ministers. So I go up.. he just went down the line. When he got to me.. I never got a chance to ask for anything SO just before he put his hands on me.. I said "for the anointing" I had both hands up. And something ..electricity hit my hand shot down my arm. It was the 2nd time something like this happen.

I am not here to make you believe anything. Nor and forgive me.. do I care if you dont believe me. I have no reason to lie.. and NEVER EVER EVER EVER would I lie about the power the works of the sweet sweet Holy Spirit. I read they came to get Jesus. as soon as He said.. I AM HE they feel back words to the ground. The word says.. where two or there are gathered .. is not HE there? If you do not believe then you will never see. So dont worry about it. You want to say its from the devil? Blood of Jesus.. I wont eve touch that.

I have seen so many more things. Of each.. I ask.. look back what has it done? Its ALWAYS to help to point to Him. In each time.. EVERY PART OF ME.. just wanted MORE of HIM. And it was always in some way to help others.

Try to understand.. can Satan create anything? Man I pray you guys know this. Well if he cant... then that means he MUST use something.. took/takes something REAL of GOD to twist it to something evil. All those angels that left there 1st estate. That took women. What was born was not of God. Yet..they TOOK something that WAS of God and twisted it in to giants. On and on.

If you being evil know how to give good gifts to your children. Now.. WHO IS YOUR FATHER? So when you talk to Him ask Him.. you think He will give you lead you down the WRONG PATH? If there is ONLY ONE truth..JESUS.. you think if any one seeks TRUTH they will find what? EVIL SATAN? Jesus is the ONLY way.. the only truth the only life. TRUTH is HE.. HE is TRUTH.

So.. stop looking at other people GOD picks not you. Stop judging them based on some video and on how you personally FEEL! And if you dont like dont agree THEN PRAY FOR THEM! Speak words of LIFE that ONLY comes from Chrsit IN YOU! Its A FREE CHOICE. You will NOT see any wonders from God if you doubt. You will not get ANTHING. YOU made that choice not Him. ALL of what Father has spoken is STILL WORKING.. it cant die.. He only speaks LIFE...everything GOD does is LIFE is GOOD.

Man be like a child.. read that book as if you never heard anyone talk about it. What do you think is going to happen if you JUST BELIEVE this God? Is HE REAL or not? To you TRUST HIM or not? Stop thinking and just believe what HE SAID. Not me not anyone else. MAKE SURE ITS WRITTEN. And.. when HE is around.. there are time YOU WILL NOT be able to stand. Sorry.. HE IS GOD and your just flesh. Every knee someday wil fall. He is real.. ask Him talk to Him.. man He talks more then anyone you know. If you dont hear Him..your not taking the time to LISTEN.

 

[Johnsloan]

Ripoff Report | Benny Hinn Complaint Review Nationwide

True and a better example of Christ than most Christians. But not the best example of Christ. So I believe hes done more than almost every Christian I know.

 

[Andy centek]

I have copied this thread from another forum to give a more general group of people from different denominations the opportunity to respond without getting themselves into trouble. I would appreciate if people didn't aim comments at me personally, but to comment on the issues instead. Then we can have a good, even if very spirited discussion for and against what I might be implying. Here is the post I entered in the other forum:

I know that there have been threads on this topic before and there has been quite a range of views, some very supportive, and others fairly harsh and unloving toward him.
The first question to be asked - Is he a born again Christian brother? If he is, then we have to love him as Christ loves us, because if we cannot love him like that, we know really know God at all, because God is pure love.
The next question I have is, does he preach the Lordship of Christ, the need to receive Christ as Saviour, the need to repent, and the necessity of living a holy life before God? If so, he cannot be a false preacher or teacher, because he is teaching the fundamentals of the Christian faith.
The next question is: are the manifestations of falling over in the Spirit and other manifestation associated with his ministry true or false? Well, if he is preaching truth as I have defined above, there is a good indication that the manifestations are true also.
Do we all agree with what he does and how he does it? No, and this is quite normal because we all have different perspectives and callings. We all do things differently, but because there is a diversity of gifts, callings and methods, that doesn't mean that just because we disagree, that it is actually false and not of God.

A false teacher or preacher is not a genuine born again believer in Christ. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He does not promote the Lordship of Christ, quite the opposite, he will promote New Age self dependence, and say that Number One is the most important person to be considered (by that I mean self, and self improvement). He will also promote liberalism in that it is not necessary to live a holy life, because Jesus forgave all sin, so it won't matter if we keep sinning. We won't be subject to any consequences if we sleep around, get involved in the occult, consult fortune tellers, because psychics can guide people just as well as the Holy Spirit. This is how the New Testament defines a false prophet, teacher, or preacher.

Just because a Charismatic preacher has unusual manifestations in his meetings and whole groups of people are slain in the Spirit, it doesn't mean that he is a false teacher. Actually, God is not very concerned about manifestations unless they are so out of control that they promote riotous living and lawlessness and a lack of self-control in people's daily living.

I just thought I would chuck that into the pot and see what boils up.

 

[Andy centek]

Perhaps the title on His paper answers the question pertaining to Benny Hinn. Whose ministry is it?

Andy Centek

 

[Major1]

True and a better example of Christ than most Christians. But not the best example of Christ. So I believe hes done more than almost every Christian I know.

Then IMO you do not know a whole lot of real Christians.

Just so that YOU will know...........
Not a single one of Hinn’s miracles has ever been verified!!!

Hinn believes that God always intends for believers to be healed, even though some great saints of the Bible were unhealed.

Hinn teaches that believers should command God to heal, while the Bible instructs them to ask (1 John 5:14-15).

Hinn teaches that miraculous healing from God is gradual, while the miraculous healings of the New Testament were instantaneous.

Hinn teaches that faith on the part of the sick person is essential to healing, while a man like Lazarus could not have exercised faith when he was healed since he had been dead.

Hinn teaches that we must do our part before God can heal, while the Bible teaches that God is sovereign.

Hinn teaches that Christians should not be sick, while the Bible teaches that Christians can be sick and will all eventually die.

Hinn teaches that a person’s healing can be lost and that the healed person must do certain things to keep the healing, while such a notion is completely foreign to the Bible.

YOU are welcome to YOUR opinions but In the final analysis, Benny Hinn is a dangerous deceiver, a fraud and charlatan who enriches himself at the expense of countless others.The False Teachers: Benny Hinn - Tim Challies

 

[Johnsloan]

Then IMO you do not know a whole lot of real Christians.

Just so that YOU will know...........
Not a single one of Hinn’s miracles has ever been verified!!!

Hinn believes that God always intends for believers to be healed, even though some great saints of the Bible were unhealed.

Hinn teaches that believers should command God to heal, while the Bible instructs them to ask (1 John 5:14-15).

Hinn teaches that miraculous healing from God is gradual, while the miraculous healings of the New Testament were instantaneous.

Hinn teaches that faith on the part of the sick person is essential to healing, while a man like Lazarus could not have exercised faith when he was healed since he had been dead.

Hinn teaches that we must do our part before God can heal, while the Bible teaches that God is sovereign.

Hinn teaches that Christians should not be sick, while the Bible teaches that Christians can be sick and will all eventually die.

Hinn teaches that a person’s healing can be lost and that the healed person must do certain things to keep the healing, while such a notion is completely foreign to the Bible.

YOU are welcome to YOUR opinions but In the final analysis, Benny Hinn is a dangerous deceiver, a fraud and charlatan who enriches himself at the expense of countless others.The False Teachers: Benny Hinn - Tim Challies

Who told you none have been verified. That is a complete lie
God does always intened for everyone to be healed, including unbelievers. Quote Benny saying that. I dont believe a word you are saying.
Because of unbelief healing can be gradual. Paul told us that. We are growing into Him.
Faith is not esential for the sick person. Big deal Benny has one part wrong. Dont think hes alone. So do you.
Indeed God is sovereign.
And He payed for all to be healed through Christ at the whipping post. So Benny is correct again.
One thing is for sure. You were commanded to go heal the sick. Do you do that? If not why not?
He is correct again. You can indeed get sick again after being healed.

You get lung cancer. get healed continue smoking and guess what ? So simple/ so much confusion among the churchs and leaders. and follwers.

Christians should not get sick. But because they believe like you do that its impossible. They get sick.
Benny is correct again.

The bible teaches that we can be sick. It also teaches we can be healed. So what is God talking about?
You are born sick but dont need to continue in it if you grow up mature and Believe that God promises are true. And you are wrong again saying Christians are going to die. Christ corrected the Jews for that kind of talki. God is the Father of the living not the dead.
You do not have a scriptural right to judge benny Hinn. But the same measure you judge God will judge you . Or so God said.
You do not know nothing about benny Hinn that would carry in a court of law. You would be thrown out.
You would be asked did you see anything that you said? You would say no. If you ever meet Benny. No. You are not intitled to talk about a man you know nothing about other than another mans testimony. Whom you do not even know him either. You are braking Gods word doing what you just did.
So I have shown you that you are wrong in many things in such a short post. That should be enough to help you slow down and think before posting and trying to teach on a matter you clearly know little about. This is exactly what satan wants you doing. Causing confusion with disinformation.

 

[Major1]

Who told you none have been verified. That is a complete lie
God does always intened for everyone to be healed, including unbelievers. Quote Benny saying that. I dont believe a word you are saying.
Because of unbelief healing can be gradual. Paul told us that. We are growing into Him.
Faith is not esential for the sick person. Big deal Benny has one part wrong. Dont think hes alone. So do you.
Indeed God is sovereign.
And He payed for all to be healed through Christ at the whipping post. So Benny is correct again.
One thing is for sure. You were commanded to go heal the sick. Do you do that? If not why not?
He is correct again. You can indeed get sick again after being healed.

You get lung cancer. get healed continue smoking and guess what ? So simple/ so much confusion among the churchs and leaders. and follwers.

Christians should not get sick. But because they believe like you do that its impossible. They get sick.
Benny is correct again.

The bible teaches that we can be sick. It also teaches we can be healed. So what is God talking about?
You are born sick but dont need to continue in it if you grow up mature and Believe that God promises are true. And you are wrong again saying Christians are going to die. Christ corrected the Jews for that kind of talki. God is the Father of the living not the dead.
You do not have a scriptural right to judge benny Hinn. But the same measure you judge God will judge you . Or so God said.
You do not know nothing about benny Hinn that would carry in a court of law. You would be thrown out.
You would be asked did you see anything that you said? You would say no. If you ever meet Benny. No. You are not intitled to talk about a man you know nothing about other than another mans testimony. Whom you do not even know him either. You are braking Gods word doing what you just did.
So I have shown you that you are wrong in many things in such a short post. That should be enough to help you slow down and think before posting and trying to teach on a matter you clearly know little about. This is exactly what satan wants you doing. Causing confusion with disinformation.

Before you shoot your mouth off and make comments that you can not back up, I suggest that first YOU actualy do some home work.

According to several investigative groups, Benny Hinn has had ZERO verifiable healings of any kind in now 36 years and a $100 million a year "healing enterprise." This record of ZERO healings is shared amongst investigative groups such as Inside Edition, Dateline NBC, 60 Minutes, HBO First Look, Trinity Foundation, FOX NEWS, ABC.

My dear friend. Just for your information, John Mac Arthur Jr. in the book.....
"Charismatic Chaos", reported that an elderly Woman died from complications
after being 'slain in the Spirit 'by Benny Hinn fell and and broke
her hip. The same incident was also reported by the National & International
Religion Report, dated Sept 21, 1987. The family of the deceased woman had
filed a multi million dollars lawsuit against Benny Hinn, but both parties
agreed to settle the lawsuit out of court.

I was at Mr. Hinns church in Orlando Fl. that night he hit the elderly woman on the head causing her to fall down. When she fell she broke her hip. As she lay there screaming in pain, Mr. Hinn said to leave her alone, God is healing her. Twenty minutes later she was dead.

 

[Major1]

True and a better example of Christ than most Christians. But not the best example of Christ. So I believe hes done more than almost every Christian I know.

 

[Johnsloan]

Before you shoot your mouth off and make comments that you can not back up, I suggest that first YOU actualy do some home work.

According to several investigative groups, Benny Hinn has had ZERO verifiable healings of any kind in now 36 years and a $100 million a year "healing enterprise." This record of ZERO healings is shared amongst investigative groups such as Inside Edition, Dateline NBC, 60 Minutes, HBO First Look, Trinity Foundation, FOX NEWS, ABC.

My dear friend. Just for your information, John Mac Arthur Jr. in the book.....
"Charismatic Chaos", reported that an elderly Woman died from complications
after being 'slain in the Spirit 'by Benny Hinn fell and and broke
her hip. The same incident was also reported by the National & International
Religion Report, dated Sept 21, 1987. The family of the deceased woman had
filed a multi million dollars lawsuit against Benny Hinn, but both parties
agreed to settle the lawsuit out of court.

I was at Mr. Hinns church in Orlando Fl. that night he hit the elderly woman on the head causing her to fall down. When she fell she broke her hip. As she lay there screaming in pain, Mr. Hinn said to leave her alone, God is healing her. Twenty minutes later she was dead.

Its not from Jesus that you learnd to talk to a brother in the manner you just done.
You are also assuming I never done any resaearch on Benny Himm.
First you tell me before shooting your mouth off. Then call me dear brother. Jesus never spoke like you ever.
You claim that benny had "Zero" Healing. You gave eight sources of evidance. I wonder if you could give at least one of these sources proper links to your cliam. Because I cant find one and gave up after the first four. So heres a aclue. dont waste your time or my time with the first four. But as it was you who thinks these people can in fact show Benny never had a single healing in his whole ministry. Okease at least show me one that say what you said. I cant seem to find them saying what YOU said.

As you do that I would like you to keep in mind what I said about Benny Hinn. It was quite short and to the pooint. Benny done more for Christ than any Christian I know. Which now includes you.
Hes done more than 99% of Christians.
But you feel that you have some right to judge him.

By the way. Fox news and ABC are both owend and run by satan. as is cnn. Thought I would give you something on your sources. I dont think you will ever realise that. But that up to you.
So a woman feel down. Hes seen so many slain in the Spirit big deal. Why would you even mention it. Tell ya why because you have nothing.

So please go back and you do a little research, an lets see if you can bring one single person who made the claim I believe you made with Zero evidance to back up YOUR claiim.

And please dont be hurt do come back. We all make mistakes. But very few have a heart to admit a mistake.

 

[Johnsloan]

So what does this say about American law? If this man has been taking money for nothing and is a fake. Why has he not be arrested? You have no proof here either. Please if you have proof bring it. If you dont your in trouble. You are well warned about accusing falsely.

 

[Biblicist]

So, just adding to my previous comment, if there has been thousands of people around the world who are now stable church-going born again Christians because of Benny's ministry, and there are further thousands of believers whose lives were changed for the better through going to one of his meetings, then who would have the better impression of him. Those people, or the critics you are believing right now?

Oscarr, even though I have no real idea if Hinn is Born Again or not, and even if he has maybe lost his Salvation, we should all keep in mind that this does not necessarily imply that this has been the case all through his years of ministry.

Having quickly scrolled through this thread I did not notice any reference to his hospitalisation back in early 2015 where he suffered from atrial fibrillation. From what I can tell it seems that he quickly raced off to hospital and it was only while he was in hospital that his numerous celebrity friends phoned in their prayers for him. My point being, if he believed in his own rather strange brand of ‘theology’, why did he see the need to race off to the hospital; does Hinn lack the necessary faith for his own healing and why did he not call on his celebrity buddies for prayer before he went to hospital.

One of the more disappointing aspects of Hinns’ life is that despite the few that he has reached over the years, the negative impact and damage that Hinn and his celebrity compatriots have created for the Body of Christ over the decades has undoubtedly harmed both the Gospel and even the confidence of many Full Gospel Christians who have been unsettled by the antics of the likes of Hinn and the other notorious televangelist celebrities.

If he is still a Born Again believer, even though his lifestyle makes it hard to deem him to be a Believer in good standing, if he still has the Holy Spirit within him, then in spite of his carnal lifestyle this does not necessarily mean that on the occasion that the Holy Spirit cannot minister through him in either healing or prophecy, which is something that Paul alludes to in 1 Cor 13 where he says that if he does not have love (ie, Hinn: greed and carnality) that these things will stop, but merely that the person who functions outside of love (Hinn: greed and carnality) does not gain from the Spirits work through them.

 

[Biblicist]

So what does this say about American law? If this man has been taking money for nothing and is a fake. Why has he not be arrested? You have no proof here either. Please if you have proof bring it. If you dont your in trouble. You are well warned about accusing falsely.

It seems that they are trying to convict him of his abuses but it can be tough for the government to prove their case when the various celebrities that they audit have legal teams that probably outclass those of the government.
Benny Hinn Ministries Responds to Government Raid on HQ

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Oscarr, even though I have no real idea if Hinn is Born Again or not, and even if he has maybe lost his Salvation, we should all keep in mind that this does not necessarily imply that this has been the case all through his years of ministry.

Having quickly scrolled through this thread I did not notice any reference to his hospitalisation back in early 2015 where he suffered from atrial fibrillation. From what I can tell it seems that he quickly raced off to hospital and it was only while he was in hospital that his numerous celebrity friends phoned in their prayers for him. My point being, if he believed in his own rather strange brand of ‘theology’, why did he see the need to race off to the hospital; does Hinn lack the necessary faith for his own healing and why did he not call on his celebrity buddies for prayer before he went to hospital.

One of the more disappointing aspects of Hinns’ life is that despite the few that he has reached over the years, the negative impact and damage that Hinn and his celebrity compatriots have created for the Body of Christ over the decades has undoubtedly harmed both the Gospel and even the confidence of many Full Gospel Christians who have been unsettled by the antics of the likes of Hinn and the other notorious televangelist celebrities.

If he is still a Born Again believer, even though his lifestyle makes it hard to deem him to be a Believer in good standing, if he still has the Holy Spirit within him, then in spite of his carnal lifestyle this does not necessarily mean that on the occasion that the Holy Spirit cannot minister through him in either healing or prophecy, which is something that Paul alludes to in 1 Cor 13 where he says that if he does not have love (ie, Hinn: greed and carnality) that these things will stop, but merely that the person who functions outside of love (Hinn: greed and carnality) does not gain from the Spirits work through them.

Character is vitally important for validating a public ministry. If the guy's character is not commensurate with what he is claiming and teaching, then that undermines him and brings his ministry into disrepute. It is interesting to note that most of the really genuine evangelistic ministries were not great money makers, nor did they live opulent lifestyles. Smith Wigglesworth lived in a modest suburban home in Bradford England when he was not touring, and lived there with his daughter until his death in 1947. Actually, there are photos of him walking in the park with his children, and you would not know that he wasn't just another elderly pensioner out for a walk; and yet he was the post powerful healing evangelist of the century. That has to tell you something.

Although William Branham went a bit off the rails with his teaching later in his ministry, he always remained a humble man and never became wealthy through his ministry. Mueller, who had his orphanages in the 19th Century received millions of dollars, but gave it all away and kept nothing for himself, preferring to live by faith for his own needs.

These were men whom God was able to use to demonstrate His power.

The fact that Kathryn Khulman died of heart failure through over work, and David Brainerd, the missionary to the American Indians in the 18th Century died of T.B., and A.A. Allen died through mixing pain killers with alcohol because of arthritis in his knees through all his leaping around during his ministry, shows us that it is God who heals people, and mainly unbelievers in order to get them to turn to Christ. We are not immune from sickness, and even the most powerful healing evangelists got sick.

The trouble is that too many people think it is the healing evangelist who heals people, and so if the guy gets sick, they start doubting his ministry. It is a type of hero worship which actually is a form of idolatry. They tend to worship the man instead of Christ, so it is no wonder that most of the claims of healing don't prove true.

 

[Biblicist]

Character is vitally important for validating a public ministry. If the guy's character is not commensurate with what he is claiming and teaching, then that undermines him and brings his ministry into disrepute. It is interesting to note that most of the really genuine evangelistic ministries were not great money makers, nor did they live opulent lifestyles. Smith Wigglesworth lived in a modest suburban home in Bradford England when he was not touring, and lived there with his daughter until his death in 1947. Actually, there are photos of him walking in the park with his children, and you would not know that he wasn't just another elderly pensioner out for a walk; and yet he was the post powerful healing evangelist of the century. That has to tell you something.

Although William Branham went a bit off the rails with his teaching later in his ministry, he always remained a humble man and never became wealthy through his ministry. Mueller, who had his orphanages in the 19th Century received millions of dollars, but gave it all away and kept nothing for himself, preferring to live by faith for his own needs.

These were men whom God was able to use to demonstrate His power.

The fact that Kathryn Khulman died of heart failure through over work, and David Brainerd, the missionary to the American Indians in the 18th Century died of T.B., and A.A. Allen died through mixing pain killers with alcohol because of arthritis in his knees through all his leaping around during his ministry, shows us that it is God who heals people, and mainly unbelievers in order to get them to turn to Christ. We are not immune from sickness, and even the most powerful healing evangelists got sick.

The trouble is that too many people think it is the healing evangelist who heals people, and so if the guy gets sick, they start doubting his ministry. It is a type of hero worship which actually is a form of idolatry. They tend to worship the man instead of Christ, so it is no wonder that most of the claims of healing don't prove true.

As much as we both pretty much understand the human tendency to idolise individuals, or at least where we can all too easily over-esteem some well known individuals, it is I suppose a very human tendency where even those who are aware of this can at times succumb to the very same thing; though maybe it becomes less and less of an issue over the years as we mature and simply realise that no matter who someone is, be they a salaried church staff member, the head of a Denomination or a major corporation or even a well known and highly respected scholar, they (we) are all human and prone to same temptations and fears as everyone else.

Over the years we have certainly seen many celebrity 'ministries' such as Marjoe Gortner (a good link) who was a famous evangelist during the early 1970's who fleeced many congregations, where Gortner even made a film about how he did it. I often wonder just how many contemporary celebrity 'ministries' have used his videos to improve their own sales technique.

 

[Johnsloan]

Character is vitally important for validating a public ministry. If the guy's character is not commensurate with what he is claiming and teaching, then that undermines him and brings his ministry into disrepute. It is interesting to note that most of the really genuine evangelistic ministries were not great money makers, nor did they live opulent lifestyles. Smith Wigglesworth lived in a modest suburban home in Bradford England when he was not touring, and lived there with his daughter until his death in 1947. Actually, there are photos of him walking in the park with his children, and you would not know that he wasn't just another elderly pensioner out for a walk; and yet he was the post powerful healing evangelist of the century. That has to tell you something.

Although William Branham went a bit off the rails with his teaching later in his ministry, he always remained a humble man and never became wealthy through his ministry. Mueller, who had his orphanages in the 19th Century received millions of dollars, but gave it all away and kept nothing for himself, preferring to live by faith for his own needs.

These were men whom God was able to use to demonstrate His power.

The fact that Kathryn Khulman died of heart failure through over work, and David Brainerd, the missionary to the American Indians in the 18th Century died of T.B., and A.A. Allen died through mixing pain killers with alcohol because of arthritis in his knees through all his leaping around during his ministry, shows us that it is God who heals people, and mainly unbelievers in order to get them to turn to Christ. We are not immune from sickness, and even the most powerful healing evangelists got sick.

The trouble is that too many people think it is the healing evangelist who heals people, and so if the guy gets sick, they start doubting his ministry. It is a type of hero worship which actually is a form of idolatry. They tend to worship the man instead of Christ, so it is no wonder that most of the claims of healing don't prove true.

I have noted how thurogh you have been in a few of the posts I read that you wrote. So I am pleased to comment back to you on a well wrote and thoughtfull post. I am not that eloquaint in my writing.
I am more like Wigglesworth. A little gruff.

John G Lake also died early, His wife also died early of sickness because he wasnt there. Wigglesworths daughter was deaf and udes a huge copper trumpet to hear better. If he could not get her healed. Who would dare pray for her if He coul not get her healed.

I like most of what you posted. But there is one vital thing mnissing from your final analyises.

You never gave Jesus the credit for what He fully accomplished. Healing is for all healing is for today. God does not differentciate one from another. What He will do for one He will do for all. Its all ready done. Baought and paid for same as salvation. We dont believe Him as you just said and many other believe the same as you. But you can not back up with Scripture that God does not want you healed. Or that God picks and chosses who gets healed today. and not tomorrow.
I have as many scriptures telling you why you are healed. You might have a couple out of context verses.

In the desert all who looked up got healed. All every single one.
We have a better covanant. But the church as a whole accuses God of yes and no.
That is unbiblical.

Unbelif is the only reason people dont get healed. The church does not believe as a whole or anything like a whole. That God heals today. Even the ones who say yes I believe. most of them do not go out and do what scripture tells us to do. Believers are so thin on the ground on healing. and when the stick there heads up theget shot by unbelieving Christians.

 

[Johnsloan]

It seems that they are trying to convict him of his abuses but it can be tough for the government to prove their case when the various celebrities that they audit have legal teams that probably outclass those of the government.
Benny Hinn Ministries Responds to Government Raid on HQ

See the problem here is the severe lack of detail when accusing someone. As I said already you are well warned of doing that in Gods word.
What abuses the tax man is looking at him. The tax man is the biggest crook in America along with the gov,President all of them, Then CIA,FBI,Bankers. News media all of them.
Benny has been accused of being a fraud and has never had a single healing in his life. Where is the proof?

So is there any proof He never saw a single healing. I know from Scripture that even if he is a fraud. He will still see healing in Jesus name. So would all of us if we actully tried it.

 

[Biblicist]

So is there any proof He never saw a single healing. I know from Scripture that even if he is a fraud. He will still see healing in Jesus name. So would all of us if we actully tried it.

Where did I ever suggest that there has never been a healing under Hinn's ministry, particularly when I have gone to some effort to say otherwise!

 

[Major1]

So what does this say about American law? If this man has been taking money for nothing and is a fake. Why has he not be arrested? You have no proof here either. Please if you have proof bring it. If you dont your in trouble. You are well warned about accusing falsely.

Please make your comments to the subject at hand on the thread and refrain from threats!

 

[Major1]

Its not from Jesus that you learnd to talk to a brother in the manner you just done.
You are also assuming I never done any resaearch on Benny Himm.
First you tell me before shooting your mouth off. Then call me dear brother. Jesus never spoke like you ever.
You claim that benny had "Zero" Healing. You gave eight sources of evidance. I wonder if you could give at least one of these sources proper links to your cliam. Because I cant find one and gave up after the first four. So heres a aclue. dont waste your time or my time with the first four. But as it was you who thinks these people can in fact show Benny never had a single healing in his whole ministry. Okease at least show me one that say what you said. I cant seem to find them saying what YOU said.

As you do that I would like you to keep in mind what I said about Benny Hinn. It was quite short and to the pooint. Benny done more for Christ than any Christian I know. Which now includes you.
Hes done more than 99% of Christians.
But you feel that you have some right to judge him.

By the way. Fox news and ABC are both owend and run by satan. as is cnn. Thought I would give you something on your sources. I dont think you will ever realise that. But that up to you.
So a woman feel down. Hes seen so many slain in the Spirit big deal. Why would you even mention it. Tell ya why because you have nothing.

So please go back and you do a little research, an lets see if you can bring one single person who made the claim I believe you made with Zero evidance to back up YOUR claiim.

And please dont be hurt do come back. We all make mistakes. But very few have a heart to admit a mistake.

You must not know that you are living in a glass house or you would not be throwing so many stones around.

YOU first called me a liar when you said..................
"Who told you none have been verified. That is a complete lie
God does always intened for everyone to be healed, including unbelievers. Quote Benny saying that. I dont believe a word you are saying."

Every single thing I have said has been verified by the exactly sources I posted for you.

May YOU should do some work of this THREAD TOPIC instead of insulting others and trying to bully and intimidate.

If you have something to ADD that is constructive and helpful, please do so. But If all you can do is rant, and call names and be obnoxious, please don't. IF you believe all those that have investigated Mr. Hinn are liars.......email hem and tell them not me.

Mike Thomas investigated Hinn’s miracle crusades. He wrote:
“Despite all the thousands of miracles claimed by Hinn, the church seems hard pressed to come up with any that would convince a serious skeptic. If God cures through Hinn, he does not cure ailments such as permanent paralysis, brain damage, retardation, physical deformities, missing eyes or other obvious ailments.”
[Mike Thomas, “The Power and the Glory,” pg. 12]

When Hinn provided Christian Research Institute with his three best-documented cases, the results were utterly unimpressive. “All three cases are poorly documented and confused,” wrote Hank Hanegraaff of CRI. “If evidence like this is the best Hinn can muster after years of healing —-then there is no credible evidence that he has been involved in a bona fide healing.” [Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis
(Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1993, pg. 341)]

A 2001 HBO documentary entitled A Question of Miracles followed the lives of seven people for a year, after they had supposedly been healed at a Benny Hinn crusade. At the end of the time period, Anthony Thomas, the film’s director, concluded that no one had actually been healed.

In an interview with the New York Times, Thomas gave this raw assessment: “If I had seen miracles [at Hinn’s crusades], I would have been happy to trumpet it . . . .but in retrospect, I think they do more damage to Christianity than most committed atheist.”

—reprinted from Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit with Counterfeit Worship, Thomas Nelson Books, 2013, pg. 170-171.

In March 2005, Ministry Watch, an independent evangelical organization which reviews Christian ministries for financial transparency and efficiency and advises potential donors accordingly, issued a Donor Alert advising Christians to "prayerfully consider withholding contributions to Benny Hinn" while praying for his restoration and repentance.

 

[Major1]

I have noted how thurogh you have been in a few of the posts I read that you wrote. So I am pleased to comment back to you on a well wrote and thoughtfull post. I am not that eloquaint in my writing.
I am more like Wigglesworth. A little gruff.

John G Lake also died early, His wife also died early of sickness because he wasnt there. Wigglesworths daughter was deaf and udes a huge copper trumpet to hear better. If he could not get her healed. Who would dare pray for her if He coul not get her healed.

I like most of what you posted. But there is one vital thing mnissing from your final analyises.

You never gave Jesus the credit for what He fully accomplished. Healing is for all healing is for today. God does not differentciate one from another. What He will do for one He will do for all. Its all ready done. Baought and paid for same as salvation. We dont believe Him as you just said and many other believe the same as you. But you can not back up with Scripture that God does not want you healed. Or that God picks and chosses who gets healed today. and not tomorrow.
I have as many scriptures telling you why you are healed. You might have a couple out of context verses.

In the desert all who looked up got healed. All every single one.
We have a better covanant. But the church as a whole accuses God of yes and no.
That is unbiblical.

Unbelif is the only reason people dont get healed. The church does not believe as a whole or anything like a whole. That God heals today. Even the ones who say yes I believe. most of them do not go out and do what scripture tells us to do. Believers are so thin on the ground on healing. and when the stick there heads up theget shot by unbelieving Christians.

It is always sad to me when I see anyone so entrenched in religious denominational dogma that they loose sight of all Biblical truth.

Yes, an element of physical healing in the Atonement does exist, but it will be manifest only when the Messiah/King will rule over a righteous, healthy world population. The curse of sin will then be lifted—only willful sin against the King will result in death.

Longevity and vitality of life will mark God’s people in His Millennial Kingdom as prophesied in Isaiah 65:19-22.........
"And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in My people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days; for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. … They shall not build, and another inhabit… for as the days of a tree are the days of My people, and Mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands."

Please notice 1 Peter 2:24, for in this text, the same prophecy recorded in Isaiah 53 is quoted by Peter in the New Testament.........
“Who His own self (the Lord Jesus Christ) bare our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by Whose stripes ye were healed.”

The application for the Church Age has to do with spiritual cleansing, not physical healing.