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"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!" Benny Hinn (TBN, 12/1/90).

Can anyone spot the three, main theological problems with this statement?
 
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1.) Christ took on the "nature of Satan"? Whoa!? Christ is fully man/fully God, He is not an angel in anyway. In taking on humanity He did not lose His divinity.

2.) Christ became a curse for us, He took our sins "upon Himself" and yet was never, never, tainted by sin. He paid our price, remaining the spotless lamb, just as we take on His righteousness, yet being sinners still.

3.) Christ was righteous by nature and by action. Being fully God, Christ is righteous and Holy, and yet as a man He obeyed God's Law perfectly.
 
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I know Benny should stick to the simple Gospel and not get into trying to explain stuff, he sounds like some of the people in my Sunday School class. I've heard something he said that was brought up Pentecostal forum here at CF, that he later took back.


This is from the Benny Hinn site:





How to Receive Jesus Christ into Your Life

Are you searching for answers to life’s most troubling questions?

In the next few moments, you can find forgiveness, a personal relationship with God, peace, freedom from guilt, wisdom, and the Father’s plan for your life.

What are the steps for you to take to discover these vital answers?

Step 1—Understand that God’s desire for you is life, abundant and eternal.

The Bible declares: "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly " (John 10:10).

Giving you abundant life required the supreme sacrifice: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life " (John 3:16).

God desires fellowship and companionship with you. What a wonderful gift the Father has given, yet if God gave His own Son to provide an abundant and everlasting life, why don’t more people have what He has designed for us to receive? It is a question answered by this sobering realization.


Step 2—Realize that you are separated from God.

There is a gap between God and mankind. He has provided a way for us to receive an abundant and eternal life, but people throughout the ages have made selfish choices to disobey God Almighty. These choices continue to cause separation from the Father.

God’s Word shows us that the result of sin is death. He says in His Word: "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death " (Proverbs 14:12).

And God also said, "But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear“ ( Isaiah 59:2).

Paul the apostle states in Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”

And in Romans 6:23 we read: "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Every human was created with the ability and need to know God and fellowship with Him. Augustine, a minister who lived during the fourth and fifth centuries, called this longing in each of us “that God-shaped vacuum.”

Every day we hear of people who are rich, famous, achievers, star athletes—people who seem to have the best life can offer—yet they try to fill that empty void in their lives with “things.” They even try good works, morality, and religion. Yet they remain empty, for only God, through His Son, can fill that emptiness.


Step 3—Accept the fact that God has provided only one solution to sin and separation from Himself.

Jesus Christ, His Son, is the only way to God. Only He can reconcile us to God the Father. Mankind may seek other solutions and worship other gods, but Jesus Christ, alone, died on the Cross for our sins and rose in triumph over the grave and eternal death. He paid the penalty for our sin and bridged the gap between God and mankind.

The Bible explains: "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us ” (Romans 5:8).

We are also told, "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God ” (1 Peter 3:18).

There is only one way provided: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” ( 1 Timothy 2:5).

For in John 14:6 we read, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

God Almighty has provided the only way. Jesus Christ paid the penalty for our sin and rebellion against God by dying on the cross, shedding His blood, and rising from the dead to justify and reconcile you back to God the Father.


Step 4—Receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

You can be brought back to God, and your relationship with Him can be restored by trusting in Christ alone to save your life from destruction. What an incredible exchange: Your worst for God’s best!

This step happens by asking Jesus Christ to take away your sin and to come into your heart to be your Lord and Savior.

God’s Word is very clear: "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me " (Revelation 3:20).

And the Bible tells us, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)

Is there any good reason why you cannot receive Jesus Christ into your heart right now?

Are you willing to let go of your burdens and sins?

Are you willing to turn away and repent from your sins?

Are you willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior now?


Step 5—Pray to receive Jesus Christ into your life.

At this moment you can pray the most important prayer of your life by simply saying:

Dear Lord Jesus, I believe You are the Son of God. I believe You came to earth 2,000 years ago. I believe you died for me on the cross and shed Your blood for my salvation. I believe you rose from the dead and ascended on high. I believe You are coming back again to earth. Dear Jesus, I am a sinner. Forgive my sin. Cleanse me now with Your precious blood. Come into my heart. Save my soul right now. I give you my life. I receive You now as my Savior, my Lord, and my God. I am Yours forever, and I will serve You and follow You the rest of my days. From this moment on, I belong to You only. I no longer belong to this world, nor to the enemy of my soul. I belong to You, and I am born again. Amen!

By praying this prayer, confessing your sins, and receiving Jesus Christ into your heart, God has given you the right to become His forgiven child. The Bible gives you this assurance: "But as many as received him, to them he gave the power to become the sons of God, even to them who believe on his name" (John 1:12).

If you have just received Jesus Christ into your life, we want to rejoice with you. Click here to send us your salvation praise report.
 
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Iollain said:
Dude, i have no idea what else the ministry does, i'm not a Benny Hinn fanatic. Perhaps that is the sin he is dealing with in his life, having too much money at his fingertips, he is a human.

Iollain, that was not meant as a direct attack on you, or even Mr. Hinn, he knows alot more about where his ministries money goes than I do - and if he has misused it he will answer to God for it, not us.

That said I do not question or judge how God healed you. I do however wonder about these extravagant TV pastors (not just Mr. Hinn) who have their own jets and such. With all the hunger and sickness in the world our job as Christians is to be His hands and feet to these people in a real way not just a "hey I'll pray for you" when we have it in our power and ability to physically help the poor and marginalized around us. Essentially we are to be God's crisis response team here on earth............IMO we don't need multi million dollar TV studios to accomplish that............again IMO.

Proverbs 21:13 "If you won't help the poor, don't expect to be heard when you cry out for help."
 
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This is just a copy/paste of the 'four spiritual laws' kinda stuff... and I disagree with the placement of Step 1 & 2. Step 2 should be step 1. See, yes God loves "the world" and sent His Son to redeem it, but God says He HATES the sinner too. (Psa 5:5) God's is angry with sinners EVERY day.

Step 3—Accept the fact that God has provided only one solution to sin and separation from Himself.

Actually the solution to sin is punishment through death and hell. Not "separation". Why are we so hesitant to talk about hell?

He paid the penalty for our sin and bridged the gap between God and mankind.

No, Christ didn't "bridge the gap" making it possible for you to walk to God. He supernaturaly transfers His people from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light through His work, and His work alone. Christ didn't make us saveable, He SAVES.

Step 4—Receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

Apart from the fact that Rev 3:20 is NOT an evangelistic passage... No one seeks after God, no one is righteous! It is God who "receives us" into His kingdom. We are to repent, acknowledge we're sinners and trust in Christ. This idea that "sinner's prayer = salvation" is unbiblical.

Now, as to my original question, please quote Hinn, not his website.
 
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Iollain said:
If it were not for tv evangelists, i bet i would be Wiccan right now.

<Sigh> :scratch: We've yet to determine what it is you believe... a lot of people like you listen to the likes of Hinn, Copeland and the like.

I mean no offense by this, its just that Hinn teaches another gospel and they lure people into false assurance based on a false Gospel.
 
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Doesn't the Bible warn that false teachers will come after the Apostles who will be able to show signs and wonders? I do not believe that we can any longer judge a person's theology and teaching through miracles. We must look past these signs and wonders and ask ourselves, is this another Gospel or is it the one that Paul and the other Apostles preached? (Galatians 1:8).
 
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Wilfred of Ivanhoe said:
Doesn't the Bible warn that false teachers will come after the Apostles who will be able to show signs and wonders? I do not believe that we can any longer judge a person's theology and teaching through miracles. We must look past these signs and wonders and ask ourselves, is this another Gospel or is it the one that Paul and the other Apostles preached? (Galatians 1:8).

Amen and amen.
 
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Lockheed said:
<Sigh> :scratch: We've yet to determine what it is you believe... a lot of people like you listen to the likes of Hinn, Copeland and the like.

I mean no offense by this, its just that Hinn teaches another gospel and they lure people into false assurance based on a false Gospel.
Whoa Lockheed hold on a minute my friend. Two things:

1. You haven't been here long enough to figure out what any one person believes. I can vouch that Iollain loves God with passion based on her posts over the last eyar that i have witnessed.

2. I agree that Hinn teaches another gospel, but the first person who reached me was Kenneth Copeland. The Holy Spirit in me led me away from that, but it was Kenneth Copeland that I listened to first.
 
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Good to hear that God led you away from Copeland... as he now teaches some crazy stuff. As I said to Iollain, we've yet to determine what she believes. If one is so defensive of someone like Hinn, it is perhaps a sign that they're lacking in discernment... My parents are in the same boat and I was raised in the Charismatic movement.

That's why I ask questions like "What is the Gospel" and "What is it you've been saved from", it helps us clarifiy the Bible's position in contrast to folks like Hinn.

I mean no offense to Iollain, or to you, I simply want to determine who says/believes what.
 
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Lockheed said:
<Sigh> :scratch: We've yet to determine what it is you believe... a lot of people like you listen to the likes of Hinn, Copeland and the like.

I mean no offense by this, its just that Hinn teaches another gospel and they lure people into false assurance based on a false Gospel.

Nope, i rarely listen to Hinn and i have not watched Copeland more than a time or two. I mostly read my bible and go to church. I believe that Jesus died on a cross for my sins, and His blood washes away sin, i have faith in that. I have a hope that one day i'll be as He is, risen to eternal life. By the Grace of God.
 
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Iollain said:
:cry: Thanks you guys! :)

If anyone agreed with everything that i ramble on about, i'd probably be worried myself about them. :D

:D

Iollian, I would vouch for you being orthodox in your theological positions, from what you've shared with us so far, despite our run-ins in the past. :thumbsup:
 
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I just do not think its right to sit there on TV and tell the world that he is going to take care of this boy, and then not do it.

Do you know that not one single miricle or healing from the Benny Hinn ministry has ever been documented as a miricle? There is no guidlines that they follow to prove these are in fact real healings, but Hinn can tell the world that its true.
I see all these people spending $150 to attend one of his "Crusades" that are cripples and just wishing and hoping that they are healed. its sad to see that, really sad. We are not called to live off of poor peoples desperations, we are called to preach the gospel into the world.
Iollian, No offense twords you. I just think his ministry is bogus as can be.
GEL
 
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Lockheed said:
Yet God can, and does, sometimes use "donkeys" to get His message across. But that doesn't mean He always does it, and that we should follow the "donkey".

Well put, I was thinking something like that myself.

Also, mine and Lockheed's negative comments are not, I believe, meant to be personal attacks agaisnt Iollain or any other true believer. More like it is a warning that signs and wonders must not be the means of judging a teacher's doctrine, but how it stands against the Bible. A perverse person should not be followed and considered orthodox due to miracles. I was thinking on the greatnes of God that He does, ironically, use false ministers for His ultimate purpose of bringing His sheep into the flock. I think that is a wonderful thing.
 
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