Barack Obama, is America ready for a black president?

[JonMiller]

If they can't work then they are poor and should be eligible for help, but an able bodied man or woman making excuses as to not being able to find work I don't have much sympathy for.

And they don't get help now.

JM

 

[reddogs]

Our economy will collapse if we didn't have the illegals, that is what you don't understand.

Jon Miller

Well since they are the only ones working, everybody else just sitting behind their computers goggling youtube......

 

[catlover]

And like I stated CL, "What belongs to Cesar?" Answer: Nothing. It all belongs to God.



That's your opinion. I believe that type of help should come from the church not government.



Trust me, uninsured people still get help in the emergency room.



Sure it does. Who decides and who pays for it? Why can't the church do it? Loads of denominational, non-government operated church hospitals out there CL. Should we just turn them over to the government?

The point is, if people had access to preventive medicine they wouldn't need to make an E.R visit which costs more.

Which church would you want to do it?

 

[catlover]

Well since they are the only ones working, everybody else just sitting behind their computers goggling youtube......

One can surf the net while they work...even though it's unethical to do so.

 

[JonMiller]

Depends on if you are getting paid by the hour or not.

JM

 

[catlover]

Depends on if you are getting paid by the hour or not.

JM

I get paid by the hour to proofread...so...sometimes...it's possible to get online.

It won't be possible tomorrow or Friday however.

 

[Adventtruth]

ROFL--I guess you are right--I am passionate about whats going on in this country today. I haven't always been this involved, but some personal things have forced me into the fray and has opened my eyes wide to the total corruption that has taken over.

EGW tells us NOT to sit idly by and allow evil to prevail. So I thought I would do my part--lol!

lol!....Well all I can say is don't lose focus in Jesus the Christ. It can be easly done seeing that this political race is none like we have had before. A women, a black, a republican thats really liberal, and a Baptist preacher candidate who has already lost but wont leave in hopes of a miracle.

I too feel stongly about this race...its a lots of fun. I listen to all the radio news shows Rush, Ed Shultz, Neil Bortz, and all the Cable shows MSNBC, FOXNEWS, and CNN. I've seen all the debates, and know all the spin each candidate is spinning I'ts consuming. But focus is where it needs to be. I still Believe what it says in Daniel...God sets up kings and sets them down. Its all for his purpose. Well any ways have fun Honor, I know I am...but lets keep the focus....you and I are only passing through.

Blessings

AT

 

[DrStupid_Ben]

That's your opinion. I believe that type of help should come from the church not government.

I suppose seculars and atheists get off scott free?

 

[DrStupid_Ben]

I agree that we should help the poor, but the Bible also says that he who does not work should not eat.

I can just imagine a poor person coming up to Jesus and him saying, "Whatever, your fault for not working."

 

[DrStupid_Ben]

I would suggest everyone go and read Lev 19:9-10; 23:22; Duet 15 and don't forget - Duet 10:19; Lev 19:33-34; Ex 23:9; Duet 27:19

 

[reddogs]

The issue is not about working in this case, its about social, economic and racial class. Those of a certain class are given a free pass with very few strings attached, those of what is perceived to be of a poorer or 'lower' class of people are limited in there oppurtunity to come to America.

Let me explain, as I know the Carribean experience first hand and better than the European one I will use that. Cuba was the crown jewel of the Spanish empire, with every gold shipment passing through Havana with a vast govermental system set up and needed to run the empires New World gold mines, plantations, banking. etc.. The best schools, the most educated, some of the wealthiest families came from Spain, making Havana a very modern cosmopolitan city, with the original darker skin native indians being replaced by those of light skinned Spanish descent.

So when Cuban dicatato Castro came, the cubans were welcomed with open arms to America, we went and brought the children over in operation 'Pedro Pan', we passed laws so they could walk onto a beach on U.S. soil and have a instant free pass to american citizenship. We welcomed the hardworking, well educated, well to do social class of cubans that came.

But the island of Haiti only a few short stones throw beside cuba, with its own dictator 'Papa Doc' and son ravaged the poorer people there, we looked the other way. We sent coast guard cutters to keep them away from our shores, if they did manage to make the hundreds of miles across the dangerous waters we sent them back. So what made the difference.....

 

[honorthesabbath]

JFK was a terrible president, one of our worse.

It doesn't matter what sort of things are used to keep track of it, I will note that having a central group making the 'legal' tender makes things a lot less confusing and easier for those doing business. As such, having the federal goverment do things makes a lot of sense.

I don't see how federal reserve notes are in any way immoral (well, more immoral then living in this country).

And yes, I know that I might have just been trolled.

Jon Miller

Explain what you mean by trolled?

 

[honorthesabbath]

The biblical nation of Israel looked after its poor etc, it did not rely on the community or the priests to do so,[/QUOTE] are you suggesting politicians should have no interest in looking after the weak in its society?

That made no sense at all. Sorry

 

[honorthesabbath]

America is more diverse than it was 40 years ago, there is no biggy with pressing 1 for English. The Europeans know more than one language. I don't see the big deal with people being bilingual.

Well Cat-then why aren't we pressing 1 for say--French or Swedish or German? Do you not see the problem here?

 

[honorthesabbath]

Amen sister!

Hey MVA--where have you been keeping yourself? Haven't see you post lately.

 

[moicherie]

That made no sense at all. Sorry

Sorry your understanding is limited

 

[moicherie]

If you think for one minute that politicians truly care for helping the weak and poor, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I think you may be interested in.

My statement was not about their feelings about the poor being politicians does not negate their duty to pass laws to deal with the situation rather than sit on thieir behinds and do nothing at all. I'm sure JFK and LBJ did not champion the civil rights act because they had some great love for black people....

 

[reddogs]

Sorry your understanding is limited

Lets keep the personal jabs out of it

 

[reddogs]

Looks like even today, there is plagarizism, can that be true.......

"..Obama: Borrowed lines no big deal..

"... Sen. Barack Obama said Monday that he doesn't think it's a big deal that he borrowed lines from his friend Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, although he probably should have given him credit.

Patrick said during his gubernatorial campaign a year and a half ago that words matter, like "I have a dream" and "all men are created equal."

Obama used the same lines Saturday night in Wisconsin. Obama said that Patrick suggested he use the lines to respond to Hillary Rodham Clinton's suggestion that Obama is more of a talker than a doer.

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson accused Obama of plagiarizing Patrick, and that's particularly troubling since Obama's appeal is based in large part on his rhetorical skills...."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politi...ama-borrowed-lines_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

 

[RND]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc