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Thekla
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I'll take a look - or a hear ...Sounds like a good choice.
I will point out though that last night Glenn Beck presented perhaps his best portrayal ever of Barack Obama ... in Obama's own words. www.gbtv.com They have free two week introductory subscriptions. (At least last I knew they did.)
The nice thing about a "free market" is that people receive consequences from their actions. Call it economic justice ... though, most assuredly, not "economic justice" in the perverse terminology of the far left.
Well, yes and no. The only examples we really have of a truly free market right now at least on a large scale (Libor, derivatives) all demonstrate recklessness, collusion, and fraud. Consequences yet ? Not for the large players, at least in any meaningful way. But for those of who have no involvement, many have been deeply and negatively affected.
Again, in a "free market" one receives the consequences of their actions.
Again, there are huge downsides. For example, those who have more power are able to affect, even manipulate those who have less power. Negative consequences for those with much power tend to be in the long term. As an illustration, those with greater expertise can and do easily manipulate those with less. It is impossible to be expert in everything, so many become sitting ducks in areas outside their expertise.
There are many who haven't reaped the consequences of their actions, though their actions have fundamentally (negatively) affected the lives of those not directly involved.Just consider Hitler. He, most assuredly, reaped the consequences of his actions, though it seems unfortunate that so many others received consequences as well ... though it can be argued that many simply received the consequences of their own inactions. I'm not sure how that relates to Ayn Rand ... but it seemed worth stating.
Perhaps Ayn Rand is not a voice you need to pay attention to, Thekla. That certainly doesn't make her contribution to society any less valuable though.
I don't find her contribution valuable. From what I understand, her understanding of the individual is a fundamentally irrational idea.
She saw a great evil ... and spoke loudly and articulately against it. She was not silent as so many under Hitler were ... to their own chagrin as it turned out.
Many noted and spoke out loudly and articulately against Hitler - even to the point of giving their lives to do so - yet their existence and thinking was primarily ethical. I've not read much of her, but from what I have read, she seems to envision a sort of "super-man". And certainly, Hitler was self-serving indeed, and in the market place of ideas was able to convince others to act his own selfish ends.
Of course. The ethical center is what informs the expression and the outcome. So to uncover the ethos of something is essential to discovering potential outcomes, negative or positive.Good. You see it clearly in retrospect.
Greenspan ran the Fed from the "lap" of Rand - we have some empirical evidence of outcome. In fact, throughout history we have numerous examples of putting self first, and the effect on a grand scale. And even with an ethical "ideology", distorted self involved individuals can create great havoc in the world.
Did you see it as an issue when Bush was in power? Do you see it as an issue under Obama?
It's always an issue wherever there is power; it will always be an issue. In all things and in all times, vigilance is in order.
Ahh ... you speak of national socialism, then?
No, not socialism or communism; these are not the same as working in the public interest. I am referring to acting with integrity and honor. My uncle, an architect who was persistently attacked and had his career on the line for refusing to give the go-ahead on projects that did not serve the people they were being built for. My little brother who lost his job for refusing to pass permits where safety issues were not addressed. My great grandfather, who gave the patent rights to an early electric company so that the profits from his invention could help bring electricity to more communities. My great aunt who alienated her friends by befriending an occupier, and risked her life by using this connection to bring food into Athens during the starving times. Her brother and his wife who risked their lives to teach English, her sister who risked her life by growing food and hiding a radio. My father, who was attacked and threatened by a local government for the good of teh senior citizens in our community.
True unselfishness, in the public interest. This is the standard I was raised with, and strive to pass on to my children. This is what I understand true patriotism to be.
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