Australopithecines aren't "just" apes

[LittleLambofJesus]

Geez, thanks for the clarification...i agree with Genesis. Abiogenesis is the antithesis to God being the Source of life, then?

Shame on you Chesterton, to mis-lead a sister in Christ.

40 lashes with a wet noodle for him

KJV) 2 Corinthians 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty [stripes] save one.

 

[Chesterton]

Geez, thanks for the clarification...i agree with Genesis. Abiogenesis is the antithesis to God being the Source of life, then?

Shame on you Chesterton, to mis-lead a sister in Christ.

In Genesis, God has explicitly told us He brought forth life from non-life. Do you want to debate with me or Him?

 

[praisejahupeople]

No, you haven't. You've only said that animals are similar because they breathe the same air and eat food. What about that accounts for why vertebrates are more like insects than sponges? Or why placentals are more like marsupials than monotremes? Your explanation does not account for these patterns in nature. I'm trying to coax an honest answer out of you, but you just keep saying that you've already provided an answer and then accuse me of having a closed mind. That and calling me "dude".

Ok my last reponse to you and apologies for calling you dude if you are in fact female.God made animals according to their kind,thats why you see similarities within classes.Ive explained this.Ive explained common descent is true only to an extent.

What is your experience dealing with animals? Are you a vet? A park ranger? A zoo keeper? Did you have a dog once?

Why?Whats this got to do with australopithicus?.Lets just say i dont need to read a few textbooks and be brainwashed by professors to claim some sort of superiority.Im not going to go over my background or my work history nor do i feel the need to.Your apparent mental superiority doesnt stop you from failing to grasp simple concepts nor does it stop you from contradicting yourself in your replies.

I'm not arguing that Australopithecus was a direct ancestor of humans. I'm arguing that we share a common ancestor exclusive of all other animals. We're biological cousins, if you will. This explains why humans and australopithecines are more like one another than either group is to other mammals.

You ignored again my question regarding lucys intelligence and how on earth you can tell how intelligent she was? and are standing firm in your belief.You would think that almighty God would make our origins understandable to EVERYONE,not just those with degrees.You overcomplicate and fudge the discussion.Peace.

 

[brinny]

In Genesis, God has explicitly told us He brought forth life from non-life. Do you want to debate with me or Him?

Well now that is because He is the Source of life, is He not?

 

[brinny]

40 lashes with a wet noodle for him

KJV) 2 Corinthians 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty [stripes] save one.

ROFLOL!!!

 

[Chesterton]

Well now that is because He is the Source of life, is He not?

Yes, He is. You win the debate!

 

[Skaloop]

God made animals according to their kind,thats why you see similarities within classes.Ive explained this.Ive explained common descent is true only to an extent.

Please define "kind." What differentiates one "kind" from another? What are the similarities within classes? Please tell me what "kind" each of the following belong to, why they fit into that "kind", and what similarities they share with the rest of the "kind".

Crows
Penguins
Ostriches
Bats
Dolphins
Sharks
Trout
Octopi
Snakes
Eels
Chimps
Humans

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by brinny Well now that is because He is the Source of life, is He not?

And also "Light"

Matt 4:16 The people, the one-sitting in darkness perceived a Light, great.
And/also to-the ones-sitting in part and shadow of death, a Light springs-up to-them.
[Isaiah 60:2,3/John 1:4]

John 1:3 All-things thru Him became and apart-from Him became not-yet one-thing which has become.
4 In Him life was, and the Life was the Light of the men.

 

[brinny]

And also "Light"

Matt 4:16 The people, the one-sitting in darkness perceived a Light, great.
And/also to-the ones-sitting in part and shadow of death, a Light springs-up to-them.
[Isaiah 60:2,3/John 1:4]

John 1:3 All-things thru Him became and apart-from Him became not-yet one-thing which has become.
4 In Him life was, and the Life was the Light of the men.

Indeed, and amen

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Indeed, and amen

I think I better quit while the going is good ehehe

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quote: "From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic. At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point".

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

All the animal kingdom is tied together. Cats, dogs, and crocs are more like one another than they are to insects, for example. And insects are more like cats, dogs, and crocs than sponges. Why? That's the question. Why this hierarchy of similarity? You haven't explained it.


I'm a PhD student in biology. I don't suspect you understand much more than I about animal life.

Ahhh.....congratulations!

 

[Chesterton]

I think I better quit while the going is good ehehe

I'm starting a new website: "LLOJSaysTheDarndestThings.com"

 

[brinny]

I'm starting a new website: "LLOJSaysTheDarndestThings.com"

if you build it, i'll come

 

[brinny]

heheheee

 

[lucaspa]

Another site where you can look at the bones and compare Lucy to chimps and modern humans (and see the mosaic of features Lucy has): http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/humanorigins/?src=e_h

What is also interesting are the transitional individuals connecting Lucy to the next species in our ancestry, H. habilis. Not only is Lucy a transitional from our ape-like ancestor to us, but these are even finer transitionals between species:

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B Asfaw, T White, O Lovejoy, B Latimer, S Simpson, G Suwa, Australopithecus garhi: a new species of early hominid from Ethiopia. Science 284: 622-629, 1999. All individuals are intermediate between A. afarensis and H. habilis.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Chesterton I'm starting a new website: "LLOJSaysTheDarndestThings.com"

if you build it, i'll come

Nah, I would give that honor to my bro AV1611VET as he also made it unto that site

quote AV1611VET "There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."

 

[lucaspa]

Geez, thanks for the clarification...i agree with Genesis. Abiogenesis is the antithesis to God being the Source of life, then?

No. It just means God used chemistry to create life instead of "poofing" the first life into existence.

 

[lucaspa]

In Genesis, God has explicitly told us He brought forth life from non-life. Do you want to debate with me or Him?

Genesis has 2 contradictory stories about how God brought forth life from non-life. That should tell you that neither is how God actually did it.

In Creation, God has also explicitly told us of at least one way chemistry brings forth life from non-life. Do you with to debate with Him? You need to listen to God both in His Creation and in scripture. And really listen to scripture, not just invent your own story from it.

 

[brinny]

Nah, I would give that honor to my bro AV1611VET as he also made it unto that site

quote AV1611VET "There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."

LOL gooooo Av!!

 

[Chesterton]

In Creation, God has also explicitly told us of at least one way chemistry brings forth life from non-life.

To what are you referring?