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I agree 100%.I voted option two. Meeting with other Christians online was the reason I joined this site. After nearly four years I've been to a variety of churches but this is the one church I haven't left. Being a site that was simply influenced by Christians would change everything.
Hallelujah no more wiki?Hallelujah!
They're not being seperated from the group... there would be an area open for EVERYONE... that is not segregation.it is segregation!
webster describes it as the separation for special treatment or observation of individuals or items from a larger group
So yes it is
and the bottom line, some Christians here think they are above the nonbelievers SIMPLY bc they're Christian. they say they can't be competent mods bc they couldn't possibly know how to give good advice adn some Christians here would like nothing more thna to shove them back into their little dark corners.
i'm ashamed to be a Christian today.
kimber1 said:actually, why couldn't there be a rule that if ANYONE got a pm from a seeker we would automatically refer them to the pastoral team?
GraceInHim said:simple and perfect solution. we did this on our team as a Mod. Herev and P_G were called many times to minister.
It works for me. What happens when you click on it?
Lisa
I think that would be a good rule to give your Christian mods as well.actually, why couldn't there be a rule that if ANYONE got a pm from a seeker we would automatically refer them to the pastoral team?
Guys? Poll percentage minimums?
Are there going to be minimum percentages to pass an option?
I think there are bigger things in the balance than a single soul, but I don't think this is going to be the end-all factor in a ministerial approach to a single person.So, y'all really do not care that a soul is hanging in the balance here?
I guess y'all are right. This ISN'T the place for atheists afterall.
Lisa
You mean the first post or the latest post?
Lisa
They're not being seperated from the group... there would be an area open for EVERYONE... that is not segregation.
It's becoming fairly clear that most of the disagreement here is simply over the role of the moderators. I seem to recall that it was proposed on the original thread that moderation and ministry be split formally; moderators would perform the janitorial duties, and a separate (Christian-only) group would be set up to handle ministry. That way, all members are represented in those who enforce the rules, and there's a highly visible group of Christians who can serve as the official representatives of the CF ministry. Would that be acceptable?
Oh, now that definitely deserves some cookies.
I feel the same way, but I finally came off the fence when I realized that the choice to return back to old CF was winning. I have no idea how binding this poll may be, but I am not going to hold my breath that it will only be used as a "tool" to get an idea of what people want either.
Lisa
I think Erwin should start another poll. I think I have learned something after seeing so many posts. I am sure there are other people who are like me that want to change the vote.
Hold on a minute, D'Ann. It is God who sends a person to one of His Servants. Let us have faith that if a true Seeker comes here, that God is in control, and will make sure that the person comes in contact with the right person. I honestly do not think this is something we have to worry about.
We have far more to worry about with our own infighting turning people away than a non-Christian mod not being able to give Spiritual advice.
Lisa
Can you be assured that none of the current Christian moderators are lying about their faith? Or that they won't abuse their positions in various ways?
with all due respect, you (and anyone who is non-Christian) are looking at all this from a non-biblical worldview so you can't really understand where most Christians who are posting in this thread are talking about. non-Christians CANT fulfill this site's stated mission as they do not have the Holy Spirit living in them. I wish my non-Christians friends on CF did, but they don't choose to. CF cant unite Christians as one body without the Holy Spirit.
actually, why couldn't there be a rule that if ANYONE got a pm from a seeker we would automatically refer them to the pastoral team?
May I suggest that it's not really fair on us to start from the assumption that we're going to lie about our intentions and abuse our positions?
Some people might do this, yes. But then, there is no guarantee that an unbeliever won't pretend to be a Christian in order to lure people away, or that a professed Christian won't abuse the trust placed in them by interacting inappropriately with underage members, or any number of other things. In fact, it probably will happen eventually; this is a big site with quite a turnover for moderators. That doesn't make it right to turn away anyone who shares the views of these potential abusers because of what they could do.
It could be written into the moderator protocol that non-Christian moderators will always start by offering to refer anyone who approaches them on faith-related matters. Once that's done... is there any reason to assume non-Christians are less trustworthy than Christians when they've sworn to abide by the rules and do the duty as they've agreed?
Since joining CF, people have confided in me or asked me who to go to for advice more than a few times. I've never hesitated to refer them to a Christian moderator or member who I knew had the experience and compassion to help them. That won't change as long as I am an active member.
They aren't in the back of the bus saying Yes'm and No Suh! That would be the difference in my opinion.
Lisa
I think that would be a good rule to give your Christian mods as well.
Seriously folks, do you want to talk about the junk that we've gotten in PMs from mods over the years? Do you seriously think somehow the prospect that someone like Raven might actually tell someone seeking answers what she thinks would constitute a new low or even an unusual threat to the credibility of the site?
If the goal is to ensure that people seeking help get access to the right voice, as per the site, then a sound ministry team, composed of people with real qualifications, and a policy of referring folks to them is a sounds tep in that direction. With or without non-Christian mods. Beyond that, if someone would still like to speak to a non-Christian about their problems, mod or otherwise, then you have exactly what you have now.
They're not being seperated from the group... there would be an area open for EVERYONE... that is not segregation.
what do you mean by "they are above the nonbelievers"?
Do you mean that because we have been washed in the blood of the Lamb?
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