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That was my bad; I meant to post that article in a thread I had open in another window.
It's from The Onion, so it's a joke.
Oy Vey! your still not getting it. There is enough room for everybody. Just a few clicks and your where you want to be. The Bible also says, "cease not from assembling yourselves together." Object of that being said, is fellowship in the faith without outside worldly influence.Originally Posted by KomissarSteve
My point is, there's plenty of topics that atheists and Christians can discuss civilly without even getting onto the topic upon which they differ.
Religionists studiously avoid noticing that all who followed Jesus are saints, wheras those who follow modern religion are sinners ...
The original 'christians' were saints then , and Erwin ahs a point that the site name is wrong because modern religion does not insist on one becoming a saint before being called 'christian'.... the name has ths been perferted by religious changes fromm what Jesus taught and most people who call themselves christian are ndeed not worthy of Christ because they ahve not "overcome the world" and become saints ...
[that is not to say that Jesus did not come to save all sinners, oly that he came to save the few sants first . and the many afterwards inhis kingdom come -Rev 7:3-10]
thus the name is in fact wrong, bur most people abise it anyway and call themselves christians despite not being anything like saints...
it does however make an utter nonsense of sinners trying to shut out others from the site for any reason... the motto is get yourself straight first before trying to pull that mote out of other people's eyes... the plank is in the eyes of chriistian sinners that continue to work iniquity, the mote may be in non-believers' eyes, but is a much smaller problem because at least they did not accept divided beliefs told by sinners who dress up and run churches of other sinners, not saints like Jesus' 'church' of God , he order of Melchisedec...
That was my bad; I meant to post that article in a thread I had open in another window.
"Without worldly influence?"
In a fellowship thread, very seldom do we discuss politics. We discuss Jesus, scriptures, interpretations, testimonies, pray for one another. Seek prayer from one another, edifiy, build up each other in the faith, comfort etc. That's what a fellowship in the Spirit is all about. What does this have to do worldly subjects that anybody would want to discuss, except from the Christian standpoint, or on a separate thread, let alone an athiest being able to take part?
So then you have no objection to my proposal that we keep a couple forums dealing with new Christians, fellowship ministry, etc, restricted to Christians, but keep the majority - which are, after all, based on worldly matters - open to non-Christians?
KomissarSteve said:
What in the world does this have to do with Christians needing to fellowship together? If atheists wanted to get together and discuss why they are athiests, then you wont find any Christians saying, "Gee, where's the love" Yes, you would have to be excluded as a believer, because their fellowship is in the Holy Spirit. He is the one that binds us as one body.Originally Posted by KomissarSteve
My point is, there's plenty of topics that atheists and Christians can discuss civilly without even getting onto the topic upon which they differ.
Religionists studiously avoid noticing that all who followed Jesus are saints, wheras those who follow modern religion are sinners ...
The original 'christians' were saints then , and Erwin ahs a point that the site name is wrong because modern religion does not insist on one becoming a saint before being called 'christian'.... the name has ths been perferted by religious changes fromm what Jesus taught and most people who call themselves christian are ndeed not worthy of Christ because they ahve not "overcome the world" and become saints ...
[that is not to say that Jesus did not come to save all sinners, oly that he came to save the few sants first . and the many afterwards inhis kingdom come -Rev 7:3-10]
thus the name is in fact wrong, bur most people abise it anyway and call themselves christians despite not being anything like saints...
it does however make an utter nonsense of sinners trying to shut out others from the site for any reason... the motto is get yourself straight first before trying to pull that mote out of other people's eyes... the plank is in the eyes of chriistian sinners that continue to work iniquity, the mote may be in non-believers' eyes, but is a much smaller problem because at least they did not accept divided beliefs told by sinners who dress up and run churches of other sinners, not saints like Jesus' 'church' of God , he order of Melchisedec...
God help all sinners from sinners on a mission ,but Jesus showed that fellowship on sabbaths WAS outreach [to the Jews] by communion in the written law of love of God [teaching in synagogues from the scripture direct] ...
That's pretty much what gets discussed in an apologetics thread. The difference seems to be that in apologetics we're concerned about the validity of beliefs. In fellowship, the concern seems to jump right past validity and into practice. And yet, there are still so many different Christians with so many different views of Christianity that certainly, some discussion of validity must arise.
I'm not sure about that. It takes two.."Where two or more are gathered in my name..there I am also." And "if two of you agree as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father." You would be amazed at what gets accomplished when we decide first to get together.
There are always going to be doctrinal differences. But the catalyst of our belief, is Jesus Christ, the cornerstone of faith. Those are pretty basic through out all Christianity. What I might have believed about some doctrinal points years ago, may not be the same as I understood it years ago. Asking for understanding, instead of our pre-concieved ideas, or what we have been taught all our lives, can be changed. But Jesus never changes.
Yes, probably... but CF isn't only for staff, it's for all members
