Asteroid Strike

[lasthero]

Some YEC will tell you the asteroids caused the fountains of the deep to erupt.

That’s just plain silly.

Do I think they caused a mass extinction and wiped out the dinosaurs? No. The flood buried the dinosaurs and cause their extinction. With the exception of those that were on the ark.

So what about the asteroids? Did they hit before or after the flood? Because they would’ve had a very real and noticeable impact on the world’s ecosystem, one that would’ve last for thousands of years.

 

[-57]

That’s just plain silly.

Why is it silly?

So what about the asteroids? Did they hit before or after the flood? Because they would’ve had a very real and noticeable impact on the world’s ecosystem, one that would’ve last for thousands of years.

There are models that show it before, during and after the flood.

 

[lasthero]

Why is it silly?

The lack of evidence for fountains of the deep in the first place, the lack of any explanation for how a meteor would cause such a thing, ignoring the effects that such a meteor would have on life...

There are models that show it before, during and after the flood.

If it happened at any point during human history, why wasn’t it recorded?

 

[Strathos]

Many of the fossils are in a death pose. Some have even been buried delivering babies. Some are even buried in large heaps which the evo-scientist say were washed there.
You need to reconsider "died naturally over periods of millions of years"

We're still talking about the coccoliths that make up the white cliffs of Dover?

 

[AV1611VET]

We're still talking about the coccoliths that make up the white cliffs of Dover?

Affirmative?

 

[Strathos]

Affirmative?

I was addressing -57.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Then YOU tell us what a kind is.

For a pre-scientific bronze age people there wouldn't have been much interest in any kind of rigorous classification. So "kind" doesn't fit into any taxonomical system. But ancient people were perfectly aware of the fact that some things were different from other things. A leopard wasn't a lion, a wolf wasn't a jackal, a falcon wasn't a vulture.

As such "kind" simply means "kind", in a basic, non-technical sense. There are different kinds of things, ancient people could make those kinds of distinctions by simple observation. So when the Bible says "kind" it just means "kind". It's a non-technical, non-scientific, non-taxonomical term to speak of different sorts of things. The point of speaking about "kinds" entering the ark is to speak about how the different sorts of animals were brought on the ark. There's no special, hidden, esoteric meaning behind it. Different kinds means different kinds, on the basis of simple observation of different kinds of things existing.

If you can tell the difference between a an oak tree and a birch tree, then congratulations, you've recognized two different kinds of trees. And you don't need to know their taxonomical rank in order to make that distinction in your observation.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

I find it Kinda interesting that some of the posters here have a christian denomination below their name and they deny the Bible.

So I don't believe in literal talking snakes and so I "deny the Bible", but someone else refuses to believe what Jesus says when He says "This is My body" and that's just fine?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[-57]

The lack of evidence for fountains of the deep in the first place, the lack of any explanation for how a meteor would cause such a thing, ignoring the effects that such a meteor would have on life...

In your opinion.

If it happened at any point during human history, why wasn’t it recorded?

There was no one around when the meteriors struck.

 

[-57]

We're still talking about the coccoliths that make up the white cliffs of Dover?

Another example of a rapid deposit. if it was slow and MY's old it wouldn't be so pure.

 

[-57]

For a pre-scientific bronze age people there wouldn't have been much interest in any kind of rigorous classification. So "kind" doesn't fit into any taxonomical system. But ancient people were perfectly aware of the fact that some things were different from other things. A leopard wasn't a lion, a wolf wasn't a jackal, a falcon wasn't a vulture.

As such "kind" simply means "kind", in a basic, non-technical sense. There are different kinds of things, ancient people could make those kinds of distinctions by simple observation. So when the Bible says "kind" it just means "kind". It's a non-technical, non-scientific, non-taxonomical term to speak of different sorts of things. The point of speaking about "kinds" entering the ark is to speak about how the different sorts of animals were brought on the ark. There's no special, hidden, esoteric meaning behind it. Different kinds means different kinds, on the basis of simple observation of different kinds of things existing.

If you can tell the difference between a an oak tree and a birch tree, then congratulations, you've recognized two different kinds of trees. And you don't need to know their taxonomical rank in order to make that distinction in your observation.

-CryptoLutheran

It really has nothing to do with telling the difference and classifying something based upon observation.

I'm thinking you might want to spend at least 15 on google.

 

[lasthero]

In your opinion.

Not really. These are pretty well established facts.

There was no one around when the meteriors struck.

Well, yes, but from what I understand, that wouldn’t sync with the timeline you’re proposing, in which the Earth is only 6,000 or so years old. At what point would you say ‘no one was around’?

 

[-57]

So I don't believe in literal talking snakes and so I "deny the Bible", but someone else refuses to believe what Jesus says when He says "This is My body" and that's just fine?

-CryptoLutheran

Kinda creazy when you think about it...Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.”

So, Jesus actually gave his body to be eaten? Personaly I see no link to them actually eating the body of Christ.

 

[-57]

Not really. These are pretty well established facts.



Well, yes, but from what I understand, that wouldn’t sync with the timeline you’re proposing, in which the Earth is only 6,000 or so years old. At what point would you say ‘no one was around’?

Some may have witnessed an asteroid crash, but they would have perished in the flood. Perhaps Noah saw one of them. Shortly after the flood there ws still no one round to witness an asteroid

 

[lasthero]

Some may have witnessed an asteroid crash, but they would have perished in the flood. Perhaps Noah saw one of them. Shortly after the flood there ws still no one round to witness an asteroid

It’s not so much the meteor, as the damage the meteor would’ve caused. It would’ve sent fiery debris flying across the globe, caused tidal waves, and blotted out the sun for over a decade, among other things. It would’ve been pretty hard to ‘miss’.

And that was just one. The one that ‘killed’ the dinosaurs isn’t the only one that’s hit the earth, nor is it the biggest.

 

[Halbhh]

It’s not so much the meteor, as the damage the meteor would’ve caused. It would’ve sent fiery debris flying across the globe, caused tidal waves, and blotted out the sun for over a decade, among other things. It would’ve been pretty hard to ‘miss’.

And that was just one. The one that ‘killed’ the dinosaurs isn’t the only one that’s hit the earth, nor is it the biggest.

That's right. And just the right size to make most dinosaurs species into compost and clear out a lot of niches entirely to open up the way for very rapid diversification of the mammals.

 

[-57]

It’s not so much the meteor, as the damage the meteor would’ve caused. It would’ve sent fiery debris flying across the globe, caused tidal waves, and blotted out the sun for over a decade, among other things. It would’ve been pretty hard to ‘miss’.

And that was just one. The one that ‘killed’ the dinosaurs isn’t the only one that’s hit the earth, nor is it the biggest.

The flood destroyed the dinosaurs.

 

[Strathos]

Another example of a rapid deposit. if it was slow and MY's old it wouldn't be so pure.

Where are you getting this from, and what do you mean by "pure"?

 

[lasthero]

The flood destroyed the dinosaurs.

It didn’t need to, apparently. The meteor would’ve done the same thing.

Along with Noah, most likely.

But again, you’re kind of missing the point. If the meteor hit during the flood, why wasn’t it recorded? It would’ve had a longer, more devastating effect on life than the flood itself. Not to mention, how do you account for the dozens of other, even bigger meteor impacts the Earth has suffered if the Earth is only 6,000 years old?

 

[Job 33:6]

Sad, a Lutheran, a few who list as Christian, and a seeker all either laugh or mock because I tried to fit God and Scripture into an equation dominated by secular science. I guess secular science rules and God can have a seat?

Sorry friend, I too will join them.

Unfortunately, while there is evidence for an asteroid destroying the dinosaurs (the Yucatan crater and iridium boundary), evidence of a global flood does not fit the evidence. Perhaps if flood waters contained high concentrations of iridium. Or perhaps if an asteroid hit the earth in conjunction with the flood of Exodus. But neither seems feasible.