Arizona tribes show outpouring of support in pipeline battle

[Shiloh Raven]

Here is one comment on Hillary Clinton's public response to the violence against the water protectors on October 27th.

"All the parties involved need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest".

INTERPRETATION: Kill the Indian, save the White man.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

What happened to that soldier talk about not terrorizing/firing on American citizens?

I hate to say this Voices, but I think the Natives are being used as training for the soldiers to psychologically prepare to police and possibly fire on American citizens.

The pipeline will be built; it has already been planned. It isn't a matter of protest - the pipeline is too important 20 years from now to NOT build today, in these people''s opinion. And, those contracting them aren't afraid to cause a "scene" getting this done - which is why for the most part this entire fiasco has had marginaledit coverage, and the Trump v. Clinton distraction has been overly rampant SINCE this started.

The pockets behind the pipeline don't care about human life, only capital. So, everyone needs to stay safe, and keep perspective.

That's what I'm afraid of. As I watch the heavy handed and militarized approach the state is using to confront the protectors I'm wondering to myself where they're learning this stuff. Immediately my mind goes just south of here to Ft. Huachuca which houses the School of the Americas.

I had no idea that our police forces were so well armed and prepared to deal with American citizens with such extreme violence.

I will point out the vast differences between the situation in Standing Rock compared to the Bundy occupation.

 

[tatteredsoul]

That's what I'm afraid of. As I watch the heavy handed and militarized approach the state is using to confront the protectors I'm wondering to myself where they're learning this stuff. Immediately my mind goes just south of here to Ft. Huachuca which houses the School of the Americas.

I had no idea that our police forces were so well armed and prepared to deal with American citizens with such extreme violence.

Yep.


It's a psyop to dehumanize the US population. What is going on is very similar to 1938...

I believe these "solders" who may actually be militarized police are practicing on "civil dispbedience" tactics.

This going on makes great live practice.

And, since people are so distracted by the election, our opponents know that the public isn't on the side of the natives - not to the degree they need to be.

Unfortunately for the distracted, their respective "undesired" groups are next to be attacked. Eventually, if no one pays attention, there will be no one left to call for help when their turn comes.

 

[tatteredsoul]

I will point out the vast differences between the situation in Standing Rock compared to the Bundy occupation.

Ha.

Indeed.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Here is one comment on Hillary Clinton's public response to the violence against the water protectors on October 27th.

"All the parties involved need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest".

INTERPRETATION: Kill the Indian, save the White man.

That's what I was saying. Not to come off as a woo woo guy, but that pipeline is being built no matter what. It is too important 20 years from now not to be built now.

And, these people are willing to make any human casualties a matter of collateral damage for the "broader public interest."

 

[tatteredsoul]

I am in no way marginalizing the protests or fighting done by natives. I think it should be done, and done intelligently (i.e. don't give the police a reason to use their Military hand-me-down technology.)

But, I also KNOW the psychopaths focused on capital do not care about bad publicity of spilling the blood of people to build a pipeline. They will spin it however they need to to squelch the public.

It comes down to fighting for your dignity, respect and principals (considering they are dealing with psychopaths who are willing to kill for money.)

So, it makes sense why this generation is being brought up on whoring yourself for profit - regardless of integrity. That psychological programming of the masses will make them more sympathetic to these psychopath''s position...

You know... the usual rhetoric and campaign about "violent, disgrafeful, ungrateful, unintelligent, unappreciative minorities complaining about things that ONLY benefit the 'broader public interest.'"

 

[tadoflamb]

I will point out the vast differences between the situation in Standing Rock compared to the Bundy occupation.

On the other hand, the Bundy's and DAPL both represent the same interests of exploiting natural resources at the expense of all Americans especially the Native Americans.

I think if Bundy and his crew got in the way of big oil the outcome might have been different.

 

[tatteredsoul]

I am in no way marginalizing the protests or fighting done by natives. I think it should be done, and done intelligently (i.e. don't give the police a reason to use their Military hand-me-down technology.)

But, I also KNOW the psychopaths focused on capital do not care about bad publicity of spilling the blood of people to build a pipeline. They will spin it however they need to to squelch the public.

It comes down to fighting for your dignity, respect and principals (considering they are dealing with psychopaths who are willing to kill for money.)

So, it makes sense why this generation is being brought up on whoring yourself for profit - regardless of integrity. That psychological programming of the masses will make them more sympathetic to these psychopath''s position...

You know... the usual rhetoric and campaign about "violent, disgrafeful, ungrateful, unintelligent, unappreciative minorities complaining about things that ONLY benefit the 'broader public interest.'"

 

[Fish and Bread]

That's what I was saying. Not to come off as a woo woo guy, but that pipeline is being built no matter what. It is too important 20 years from now not to be built now.

If we're still so dependent on fossil fuels as to need that pipeline in 20 years, the world is going to be one big disaster area due to global climate change. There are many reasons why this pipeline shouldn't be built, that it is where it is and being done over the objections of the Native Americans who's land it will effect is only one of them (Albeit a very important cause in and of itself).

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Watching live stream on Facebook now.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Former Vice President Al Gore: “I Stand by the Standing Rock Tribe in their Opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I shared this article already, How to Talk About #NoDAPL: A Native Perspective, but now I want to share an excerpt from it.

So when you talk about Standing Rock, please begin by acknowledging that this pipeline was redirected from an area where it was most likely to impact the residents of Bismarck, North Dakota. When Bismarck's population -- which is over 90 percent white -- objected to the risks the pipeline posed to their drinking water, their concerns were accommodated, and the pipeline route was shifted into treaty lands. Please inform people of these facts, and remind them that our people are still struggling to survive the violence of colonization on many fronts. People should not simply engage with stories related to our struggles when they see a concrete connection to their own issues -- or a jumping off point to discuss their own issues. Our friends, allies and accomplices should be fighting alongside us because they value our humanity and right to live, in addition to whatever else they believe in.

The original route of the Dakota Access pipeline was moved after the residents of Bismarck complained about the risks of having the pipeline close to their water supply. Take note of who these residents are and that their concerns were accommodated.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I will give you a fair warning about the outrage you will feel when you read this article.

Outrage: Pipeline Police Strip-Searched Native Girl, Threw Her Naked Into Cell

 

[tadoflamb]

I will give you a fair warning about the outrage you will feel when you read this article.

Outrage: Pipeline Police Strip-Searched Native Girl, Threw Her Naked Into Cell

This happen a number of days ago. I've seen the video of the interview by her mother on the Uncensored News website.

It is outrageous.

The way law enforcement has treated the protectors from the beginning has made me suspect an element of racism. There's a video a little ways back by one the protectors who called the state of North Dakota racist. From the way law enforcement is handling this, I have to agree.

 

[tatteredsoul]

If we're still so dependent on fossil fuels as to need that pipeline in 20 years, the world is going to be one big disaster area due to global climate change.

Correct. That is part of the plan, but not the overall.

But, it isn't about dependence on degenerate fuel sources. There has been free energy since Tesla, and likely since Phoenicia, Egypt, and Sumer.

You don't make money on free energy technology.

It is better to exhaust an archaic energy source whilst making the maximum amount of money, than it is to influence a self-sufficient, energy sufficient paradigm that would categorically eliminate most all social problems. Then, when the archaic energy source becomes obsolete, you can introduce the less archaic (but severely lacking) technology and make the maximum profit from that - over several decades.

It is a game; a corporate energy ponzi with fingers in every facet.

There are many reasons why this pipeline shouldn't be built, that it is where it is and being done over the objections of the Native Americans who's land it will effect is only one of them (Albeit a very important cause in and of itself).

Well, these entities that want their pipeline don't care about any of that. If it doesn't make them money, it doesn't matter.

People, to these type of entities, are commodities to be trades for political, economic, psychological, and cultural exploitation.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Bison hear/feel the problems too?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I am proud of the New York Times. Well done.

Why Dakota Is the New Keystone

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Bison hear/feel the problems too?

The arrival of Tatanka Oyate is a sign that our ancestors are with the water protectors as they continue the struggle to protect our ancestral lands. It is no coincidence the sacred buffalo came out of nowhere when the water protectors are in danger.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Watching live videos that came in overnight. Update: There was a grass fire burning on a hill north of the camp about 5 hours ago. The fire was kept under control and did not reach the main camp and the water protectors. The BIA was contacted and made aware of the fire. No word or confirmation yet on who started the fire, only hearsay. There is talk of DAPL infiltrators in the camps causing trouble. Camp security has chased a few of them off. Water protectors are staying away from the area of the fire, so none of them are accused of starting it. I will keep an eye on this story and share any new updates.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I would like to put a face to the water protectors who are desperately trying to protect their water and their land from the construction of DAPL. These pictures have been shared on either Twitter or Facebook. I will not post copyrighted pictures.

There are elders, women, and children at the resistance camps.