Are you sure it isn't three Gods?

[ScottA]

So then... how does God the Son pray to God the Father? My "Jane the Daughter" doesn't pray to "Jane the Mommy"-- that doesn't make any sense.

If I worked for myself and wanted to buy something, I would seek the answer from myself: Can my "business" (my baby, the work of my hands, the child of my making, my creation) afford for me to take from myself and give to myself, that I may have what I have asked for. And I'm not even God.

 

[katerinah1947]

Recapping (to make sure I got this right): going with my definition of "roles", you see God as 1 "person" with three different "roles". Do I go that right?

So then... how does God the Son pray to God the Father? My "Jane the Daughter" doesn't pray to "Jane the Mommy"-- that doesn't make any sense.

Hi,

On your first paragraph only:

Not quite. I see God as one person, two persons or three persons all who do God, or the job called God, the same.

LOVE,

 

[doubtingmerle]

You are looking at my analogy backwards. I did not say three heads...but rather one head, with three hats.

That's exactly what I said you said: one head, three hats.

Your illustration is consistent with the polytheist who believes in there being one divine essence but three gods, yes?

I also said, Me, Myself, and I, as an example of one person who may be known in different ways: to some as Father, to others as Son, and still to others as Carpenter, etc.

So you and God can both be known in 3 different ways. So are you a trinity too?

Others here say God is 3 persons. In your illustration he is 1 person. Which way is it? Is God one person or 3 persons?

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi,

On your first paragraph only:

Not quite. I see God as one person, two persons or three persons all who do God, or the job called God, the same.

LOVE,

Hi,

When God is God, God is One thing, God.

When God is a Person he is another thing, He is that Person.

In order to maybe do this, I learned it one way, and would like to offer that to you, in steps.

Can you see in, your own self, your own child, meaning you as a child, as within each person of God, they have that also.

Can you then go to worker and parent and see those inside of your ownself, separate from any roles or jobs, but being just a part of who you are, as in each Person of God that is there also.

The hardest part for me, was Seeing God as God, and there was and is no personhood when they are together being God, yet The Three of Them are there, right in front of me, then. It was and is almost as when they are God they are a separate person, but that is not true, it is only how I interface with God in that role.

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

If I worked for myself and wanted to buy something, I would seek the answer from myself: Can my "business" (my baby, the work of my hands, the child of my making, my creation) afford for me to take from myself and give to myself, that I may have what I have asked for. And I'm not even God.

Hi,

ScottA, you are so close. You are.

LOVE,

 

[doubtingmerle]

If I worked for myself and wanted to buy something, I would seek the answer from myself: Can my "business" (my baby, the work of my hands, the child of my making, my creation) afford for me to take from myself and give to myself, that I may have what I have asked for. And I'm not even God.

But according to your definition, you are a trinity?

 

[Jane_Doe]

Hi,

On your first paragraph only:

Not quite. I see God as one person, two persons or three persons all who do God, or the job called God, the same.

LOVE,

So is God 1, 2, or 3 person, or the job? Or some combination?

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi,

Everyone maybe,

Imagine you are me. One day you are sitting in a chair expecting nothing.

Soon God is in front of me, Trinitarianly, and there is nothing else, as all light apart from Him is darker.

I know or am told somehow, to not touch as it is Sacrilgeous. My thoughts then were, Okay. I know what that is. Only Personhood was not there. No person did I feel. Using logic alone, and to this day, and till this day, only logic do I have. To the right of the center one, must be Jesus. And from that I figured out who they were. Later I would check this all out with the religious and mental health folks, as How do I know I wasn't deceived or having a hallucination, but that is off the topic.

The next day was like the first, only this time it was Jesus Christ Himself, and I learned something.

The third day I had a huge interaction with The Holy Spirit and one other, who is not God.

Getting back home, soon I interfaced with all of them as persons now. I actually knew somehow God The Father's personal speaking voice when He talked to me one day, and the same for Jesus, but also the same really for The Holy Spirit..... Why I knew their voices, I can guess, but I cannot say for sure.

Person hood was always there after seeing God, in the no felt personhood way, and He is Quite Quite Quite Trinitarian.

I already knew much of what I am saying here, but two years later, The Holy Spirit of God The Father, in terraced with me one night, and I could sense 0, ZERO differences between The Holy Spirit was was there also and The Holy Spirit that is in God The Father.

Years would pass as I stressed over that, and a few other things, but that told me much about God, His Son, The Holy Spirit, the one I call, as the brother of Jesus and a son of God, but I don't think anyone else can. (I use that in any daily interactions I have with them personally. It helped me deal with The Holy Spirit who Jesus defended in The Bible one day. )

It is in dealing with God in all those ways, that I say what I say.

Does that help?

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

So is God 1, 2, or 3 person, or the job? Or some combination?

Hi,

I dont' know. What I do know, is that each of them being identical in certain ways, such as The Holy Spirit Separate from God The Father, and The Holy Spirit In God The Father, since they are all composed if you will of identical parts, God, Son, Worker, Parent, and no other parts, it seems separate for one of them being and doing God, or all three of them being and doing God, it is the same results, in all cases.

LOVE,

 

[Jane_Doe]

Hi,

Everyone maybe,

Imagine you are me. One day you are sitting in a chair expecting nothing.

Soon God is in front of me, Trinitarianly, and there is nothing else, as all light apart from Him is darker.

I know or am told somehow, to not touch as it is Sacrilgeous. My thoughts then were, Okay. I know what that is. Only Personhood was not there. No person did I feel. Using logic alone, and to this day, and till this day, only logic do I have. To the right of the center one, must be Jesus. And from that I figured out who they were. Later I would check this all out with the religious and mental health folks, as How do I know I wasn't deceived or having a hallucination, but that is off the topic.

The next day was like the first, only this time it was Jesus Christ Himself, and I learned something.

The third day I had a huge interaction with The Holy Spirit and one other, who is not God.

Getting back home, soon I interfaced with all of them as persons now. I actually knew somehow God The Father's personal speaking voice when He talked to me one day, and the same for Jesus, but also the same really for The Holy Spirit..... Why I knew their voices, I can guess, but I cannot say for sure.

Person hood was always there after seeing God, in the no felt personhood way, and He is Quite Quite Quite Trinitarian.

I already knew much of what I am saying here, but two years later, The Holy Spirit of God The Father, in terraced with me one night, and I could sense 0, ZERO differences between The Holy Spirit was was there also and The Holy Spirit that is in God The Father.

Years would pass as I stressed over that, and a few other things, but that told me much about God, His Son, The Holy Spirit, the one I call, as the brother of Jesus and a son of God, but I don't think anyone else can. (I use that in any daily interactions I have with them personally. It helped me deal with The Holy Spirit who Jesus defended in The Bible one day. )

It is in dealing with God in all those ways, that I say what I say.

Does that help?

LOVE,

Thank you very much for sharing such a special moment with us.

I might be getting what you're getting it... but then I might be completely off (I'm not very sure).

 

[katerinah1947]

But according to your definition, you are a trinity?

Hi,

Yes you are getting closer.

LOVE,

 

[Jane_Doe]

Hi,

I dont' know. What I do know, is that each of them being identical in certain ways, such as The Holy Spirit Separate from God The Father, and The Holy Spirit In God The Father, since they are all composed if you will of identical parts, God, Son, Worker, Parent, and no other parts, it seems separate for one of them being and doing God, or all three of them being and doing God, it is the same results, in all cases.

LOVE,

Would it matter to you if God was1 person, verses if God was 3?

 

[katerinah1947]

Thank you very much for sharing such a special moment with us.

I might be getting what you're getting it... but then I might be completely off (I'm not very sure).

Hi,

As exhausting as this is, I don't want to stop. It takes a lot to change from what I live and do everyday, to analyzing it.

Please tell me what you think you know, even though normally Trinity is a given item, I never know if God intends for others to understand or not, now.

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

Would it matter to you if God was1 person, verses if God was 3?

Hi,

It does not matter at all to me. I take God as He is not as I want Him to be.

LOVE,

 

[ScottA]

But according to your definition, you are a trinity?

Not at all, I am one. But I am "known" in different worlds, differently.

 

[Jane_Doe]

Hi,

As exhausting as this is, I don't want to stop. It takes a lot to change from what I live and do everyday, to analyzing it.

Please tell me what you think you know, even though normally Trinity is a given item, I never know if God intends for others to understand or not, now.

LOVE,

I am quite enjoying this as well! Would you mind if I PM you in a few hours? I just got an important bank call which I need to deal with now

 

[ewq1938]

Whenever I hear of Christians referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, it sure sounds to me like three Gods that work in perfect harmony. Is that what you believe? If not, how does your faith markedly differ from the person who believes in three Gods that work in perfect harmony.

The bride of Christ is written as a singular female however she is actually composed of a huge number of men and women (Christians). So is there one bride or many? The many form a singular. It is the same way with the Trinity. Three composing a single God does not equal 3 Gods despite that there are three of them in the Trinity. The three form a singular God.

 

[katerinah1947]

I am quite enjoying this as well! Would you mind if I PM you in a few hours? I just got an important bank call which I need to deal with now

Hi,

With you, I do not and would not mind, however we can do both. If anyone here is getting things from you on the present topic, I would not want for them to be left out.

LOVE,

 

[doubtingmerle]

Not at all, I am one. But I am "known" in different worlds, differently.

And you were using the same illustration of being known in different circumstances for God. If you and God are both known in different situations differently, and you are not a trinity, then is he also not a trinity?

 

[doubtingmerle]

The bride of Christ is written as a singular female however she is actually composed of a huge number of men and women (Christians). So is there one bride or many? The many form a singular. It is the same way with the Trinity. Three composing a single God does not equal 3 Gods despite that there are three of them in the Trinity. The three form a singular God.

What are "the three"? Are they 3 gods? Are they three manifestations? Are they 3 persons?

You cannot just refer to God as three _______s and then not fill in the blank.