Are we the product of poor design?

[OldWiseGuy]

Correct. It works pretty good.

Surely though you agree that pretty good is not the same as perfect.

God will perfect us in the Kingdom.

 

[pitabread]

Our eyes are a wondrous thing.

Then why do I need glasses?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Then why do I need glasses?

So your eyes can continue to be a wondrous thing.

God built such aging into our 'mortal coil' to prepare us for death.

 

[Strathos]

The standards for 'perfect' sure have gotten lower these days... with these kinds of excuses, the US Government is also 'perfect'.

 

[pitabread]

So your eyes can continue to be a wondrous thing.

God built such aging into our 'mortal coil' to prepare us for death.

I've needed glasses since I was a kid.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I've needed glasses since I was a kid.

"Soon as we're born, we're dyin'."

 

[dlamberth]

Evolutionists are fond of pointing out the weaknesses of our 'design' as compared to other species. The irony is that humans have never taken full advantage of the capabilities that we have, regardless of our supposedly poor design. Also ironic is that our 'evolutionary' design hasn't fared any better. In fact one can't tell the difference.

When the perspective is evolution of "consciousness", which is what I think it's all about, Human Beings are pretty strong in that trajectory.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Our eyes are a wondrous thing.

Guess we could say eagle has better sight but then we would just get the answer how our own eyes are better for us so let’s divert a bit.

Despite our eye being “wondrous things” would you oppose bit of gene therapy to say raise their efficiency by 20% if the procedure was cheap, foolproof and without any side effects ?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Guess we could say eagle has better sight but then we would just get the answer how our own eyes are better for us so let’s divert a bit.

Despite our eye being “wondrous things” would you oppose bit of gene therapy to say raise their efficiency by 20% if the procedure was cheap, foolproof and without any side effects ?

We might as well. We're all about treating symptoms instead of causes.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

When the perspective is evolution of "consciousness", which is what I think it's all about, Human Beings are pretty strong in that trajectory.

I think our 'cluelessness' is actually increasing.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

We might as well. We're all about treating symptoms instead of causes.

Yeah, at every doctor’s appointment they should just say that this condition is caused by sin and you really should work on it.

Imagine how much faster graduating from med school would get.

 

[dlamberth]

I think our 'cluelessness' is actually increasing.

Not in a quarters. There's a social undercurrent of a vibrant spiritual awakening going on, though mostly outside of main stream religious institutions. These are folks who are looking towards the Wisdom traditions for spiritual insight.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yeah, at every doctor’s appointment they should just say that this condition is caused by sin and you really should work on it.

Imagine how much faster graduating from med school would get.

Some doctors do that now, although they don't use religious jargon.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not in a quarters. There's a social undercurrent of a vibrant spiritual awakening going on, though mostly outside of main stream religious institutions. These are folks who are looking towards the Wisdom traditions for spiritual insight.

Sounds pretty mysterious. Can you elaborate?

 

[Larniavc]

God will perfect us in the Kingdom.

So things are not made perfect.

Great!

 

[driewerf]

It is a joke. Let’s see how it goes. If nobody marks it funny you win. If someone does mark it funny you are just slow on uptake.

Alas, at the moment of writing (Tuesday the 29th) nobody has rated it as funny.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Alas, at the moment of writing (Tuesday the 29th) nobody has rated it as funny.

Can’t win them all.

 

[Arc F1]

Correct. It works pretty good.

Surely though you agree that pretty good is not the same as perfect.

We will reach perfection in the next journey. This old flesh has many weaknesses.

 

[Arc F1]

Teeth maybe could use some improvement... no fun having rotten crockery in your mouth, which without modern dentistry most of us would have for the last 50% of our lives.

Might be all the sugar and other things we love so much. Idk. I'm 56 and my teeth are holding up pretty good so far.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So things are not made perfect.

Great!

We will be perfecter in the Kingdom.