Are these points held by proponents of critical race theory (CRT)?

[Tom 1]

From the article;

"What the binary really implies is that racism is not a behavior, a worldview, or a choice; it is an innate condition, something white people must work to overcome from birth. For Kendi and the millions of Americans buying his books, we cannot inhabit a racially neutral space of, say, a person who treats all people with dignity and respect. We must instead become anti-racist, fighting racism in the manner outlined by Kendi and company, through policy and programming that centers race."

It's either or with Kendi. You're either raised to be a racist or anti-racist and white people
need to work to overcome being racist.

Really ?

You understand these are the words of the person writing the article, yes? To go back to the original question, do you have a source where Kendi claims babies are born racist?

To clarify the difference again, if someone claimed 'babies are born with the innate ability to do basic math' that would be different to the claim that 'babies need to/should be taught to do math'. What you have linked to has Kendi saying the latter (that babies are taught anti-racism/racism), and the writer of the article/producer of the video claiming he said the former.

 

[Tom 1]

You're either raised to be a racist or anti-racist and white people
need to work to overcome being racist.

That's closer to the truth than what the article claims. He is a bit black and white about things (no pun intended), but he certainly doesn't claim that people are born racist. On the other hand, the effects of racism in the US are as obvious as those of the class system in the UK. No amount of denial from the other side of the argument can make the legacy of centuries of inequality vanish overnight.

 

[miamited]

From the article;

"What the binary really implies is that racism is not a behavior, a worldview, or a choice; it is an innate condition, something white people must work to overcome from birth.

Hi @JimR-OCDS

I gotta agree with @SilverBear and @Tom 1 what you're claiming that Kendi is saying isn't actually what he's saying, but rather what the author of your article is 'translating' Kendi's statement to mean. However, from what I've seen and heard, it's actually the translation of your author that needs to be looked at. He seems to be putting words into Kendi's mouth regarding this issue.

Do you see that? Or no?

Look it's easy to always find someone who doesn't agree with someone else and then takes their words out of context or tweaks them just enough to change the meaning, but still maintain the timber and rhythm or their words. It actually happens quite regularly these days in the political arena.

God bless,
Ted

 

[JimR-OCDS]

No one chooses where they born. By default, being born into a white family
makes you raised as a racist unless your parents raise you to be anti-racist.

This is what I'm getting from Kendi, which of course I don't agree with

I stand corrected that whites aren't automatically racist when they come out of the
womb. But again, where you're born and how you're raised sets you up to be a
racist if you're white.

 

[The Barbarian]

• One race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex

• An individual, by virtue of the individual's race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously

• An individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of the individual's race

• An individual's moral standing or worth is necessarily determined by the individual's race or sex

• An individual, by virtue of the individual's race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex

• The advent of slavery in the territory that is now the United States constituted the true founding of the United States

• With respect to their relationship to American values, slavery and racism are anything other than deviations from, betrayals of or failures to live up to the authentic founding principles of the United States, which include liberty and equality.

That sounds more like Donald Trump, the Proud Boys, Stephen Miller, and Steve Bannon than CRT. Which, BTW is taught at college-level, and nowhere in public schools.

Learn about it, here:

"Critical race theory views race law and policy as tools of power," Thomas said. "Its focus on the politics of race has helped break the stranglehold of 'racial moralism' by challenging the egocentric belief that racism is always only about personal fault, private prejudice, and invidious individual intent. Critical race theory tells a story about institutionalized racial disadvantage and systemic racial inequality. It highlights the structural harms of the ‘colorblind racism’ we see at work in laws that don’t mention race per se."
What Is Critical Race Theory, and Why Is Everyone Talking About It?

Precisely the opposite of what racists are saying about it. Guess why.

 

[The Barbarian]

I stand corrected that whites aren't automatically racist when they come out of the womb. But again, where you're born and how you're raised sets you up to be a racist if you're white.

See above. Precisely the opposite. I doubt if anyone growing up in America is untouched by racism; it's pervasive in all sorts of things, just like the fact that penalties for "white kinds" of cocaine have been much less Draconian than penalties for "black kinds" of cocaine, even though here's no medical or scientific data to support such a difference.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

See above. Precisely the opposite. I doubt if anyone growing up in America is untouched by racism; it's pervasive in all sorts of things, just like the fact that penalties for "white kinds" of cocaine have been much less Draconian than penalties for "black kinds" of cocaine, even though here's no medical or scientific data to support such a difference.

CRT came out in the 1970's and what we see is a philosophy which today has been highjacked by the left. See this article which supports my point;

https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2021/06/76185/

 

[The Barbarian]

The article doesn't discuss CRT, but instead discusses the author's perceptions of the motives of people who formed and use CRT.

The whole point of CRT is to move away from focusing on blaming individuals, and analyzing whatever ways a society functions to maintain racism.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

The article doesn't discuss CRT, but instead discusses the author's perceptions of the motives of people who formed and use CRT.

The whole point of CRT is to move away from focusing on blaming individuals, and analyzing whatever ways a society functions to maintain racism.

You must not have read it then.

It gives the beginning of CRT and how it changed over the decades.

 

[The Barbarian]

It gives the beginning of CRT and how it changed over the decades.

Unfortunately, it misses the entire point of CRT.
"People are usually down on things they aren't up on."
Everette Dirkson

Most particularly, the author asserts that CRT defines racism as sin. And CRT goes entirely the opposite way, exposing how the structure of society can produce racist results with no racist intent whatever.

Guilt is the wrong way to go about removing those structures that produce racist results.

Guilt is what gave us tokenism, busing and other well-intentioned but failed attempts to remove racism.

 

[Tom 1]

You must not have read it then.

It gives the beginning of CRT and how it changed over the decades.

It contains ideas someone has about CRT. To get in on the discussion it would be more useful if you were to read something written by a CRT theorist, then you could use that to support your arguments against/about it. Simply quoting some other person’s opinion isn’t how you arrive at an understanding of a subject.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

It contains ideas someone has about CRT. To get in on the discussion it would be more useful if you were to read something written by a CRT theorist, then you could use that to support your arguments against/about it. Simply quoting some other person’s opinion isn’t how you arrive at an understanding of a subject.

Actually the author of the article quotes what others have written about CRT over the decades.

The point is, CRT is not the same as it was when it started, which is why more and more states
are removing it from their school systems.

 

[Tom 1]

Actually the author of the article quotes what others have written about CRT over the decades.

Well, yes, that is what a written opinion is. A writer states their opinion and selects parts of other texts to support it. That’s how essays are written. It doesn’t mean the writer’s opinion is true or even accurate, you can argue any point you like in that way.

The only way to understand CRT, or any other complex topic, is to read about it yourself. Otherwise, what do you have a brain for? Just to use as a receptacle for other people’s opinions?

 

[Tom 1]

The point is, CRT is not the same as it was when it started, which is why more and more states
are removing it from their school systems.

Based on what? Why, based on your understanding of CRT, do you think that?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Based on what? Why, based on your understanding of CRT, do you think that?

Based on the fact that CRT is a "theory," and theories change.

However, in this case, the theory is being used politically by the left to
indoctrinate children in the school system to see that the nation was
built through racism by whites.



"The theory rests on the premise that racial bias - intentional or not - is baked into U.S. laws and institutions." Explainer: What 'critical race theory' means and why it's igniting debate

This of course is false and merely spreads hatred against white people.

 

[Tom 1]

This of course is false

Ok, that’s what you think. In that case you should be able to argue why you think that. Why do you think that the legal and social systems of the US have dealt with all people equally.

 

[The Barbarian]

Actually the author of the article quotes what others have written about CRT over the decades.

The point is, CRT is not the same as it was when it started, which is why more and more states
are removing it from their school systems.

Since it's only taught in college-level courses, the "removal" is entirely political theater for politicians who want to pander to racists.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Critical race theorists reject the philosophy of “colorblindness.”

Critical Race Theory: A Brief History


So according to CRT theorists, we should be focused on race ?

I thought we were suppose to get away from profiling people
according to their race ?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Since it's only taught in college-level courses, the "removal" is entirely political theater for politicians who want to pander to racists.

Actually it's being brought into the elementary school systems which parents are
attending School Board Meetings and rejecting it.

Are they wrong to reject teaching children that our system is built on racism ?

 

[The Barbarian]

"The theory rests on the premise that racial bias - intentional or not - is baked into U.S. laws and institutions." Explainer: What 'critical race theory' means and why it's igniting debate

This of course is false and merely spreads hatred against white people.

The first statement seems entirely at odds with the second statement.