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Are Christian tats a turn off?

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Also, "At first I had sympathy for you, now I couldn't care less how you're treated."

Sure it's not just you showing your true colours here?

You know what my reply meant. I did not, at all put words and concepts into your mouth and I did not lie. That itself is a lie.

You come in without knowing me accusing me of entering into the realms of hatred and misogyny? You nor anyone else know very much about me. It's strange but I'm not surprised

How do I see it? You accused me and I accused you? Don't take it to heart
 
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A couple of side-trail comments:
1. It's okay to disagree on theological issues. Women being pastors is an open-handed issue, not consequential regarding salvation. To say a woman is living in sin by being a pastor is an overreach because the Bible is unclear about it, but the Bible does give plenty of reason for one to believe that only men should serve in the office of elder/overseer (the word the Bible uses) in the church. So personally I see people in the wrong on both sides of the argument in this thread. However, though I disagree with you, I do not think you are terrible human beings.
2. Why is singleness considered an insult? Comments along the lines of "it's obvious why this person is single" and "They are going to stay single for a long time" are pretty cruel, and hopefully the irony isn't lost on anyone that the people making these comments are also single. There's an underlying assumption in the insult that the person is single because they are undesirable (again, pretty cruel insinuation), but I wonder if that is also a reflection of what the people doling out the insults believe about themselves. Such self-cruelty is also something that should be fought against. Why don't we see singleness for the good it affords us? It offers things that life in an intimate relationship can't.

As for the actual thread topic:
I know a couple that has been married for years. Both grew up with a rough background and found each other when they were pretty young. One of them came to know Jesus and the other followed suit not long after. They both had some tattoos when they met Jesus and they have gained more since. They also have eight kids: six biological kids and then two kids with special needs that they adopted from China. They spent several years building a ministry in their hometown that gives kids with rough backgrounds a safe place to go and hang out. They stepped away from that and started an international ministry, moving their entire family of 10 down to Haiti for a year to get it off the ground. If you haven't heard about it, there has been a great deal of unrest in Haiti over the last week and a half because their government continues to increase taxes on things like gasoline that they desperately need when they already have barely enough money to get by as it is. This unrest led to government blockades that prevented food and water from getting to hundreds of people who desperately need it. This couple fought tooth and nail to raise money and make sure trucks of food and water got to people who they knew needed it.

All of that to say--tattoos are no indicator of a person's moral character. I can see how some may not like them from an aesthetic standpoint, and in that case thankfully for them there are a lot of people out there without tattoos. Personally I like them, and even moreso if there is some special meaning attached to each one, which is often the case with people who have them.
 
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I was browsing Match for a Christian lady and saw this kind of cute gal with pretty eyes and smile. I got a look at her other photos and she has sleeve tats all over....all are Christian themed and I'm sorry, Christian-themed ink or not...do you find this to be a turn off. Apparently she's even a pastor at a local back water church. Not sure why the need to do this to their bodies.

Christian tats or not, to me less is more. I mean, whatever happened to women who got the more cute, little tats on their ankles, wrists, shoulders. It's great that you follow the Lord, but I just find it off putting if there's big ones all over.

It's kind of ironic though, because in the old days...tattoos, no matter what, were seen in a negative light. If a woman had one, she was considered a "loose woman". But I was wondering if those who make a Christian themed tattoo tend to qualify their reason for even having one? Are they trying to overcompensate for something?

But even in secular channels, there seems to be a trend of ink addiction no matter what their belief. I see it at swimming areas all the time from armpit to down to the legs. Some look like they've gotten out of prison/jail.

Nothing biblically wrong with a lady smoking and wearing tatoos, but they are a major turn off and make me judgmental towards them upon first glance. But, I'm sure with my beard I look like a homeless guy, so fair is fair.
 
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I don't like tattoos, especially sleeves or extreme tattoos. But whether a person chooses to get a tattoo is up to them, and I don't believe tattoos are of themselves sinful. I can/have honestly admired and complimented some simple and tastefully done tattoos but would never choose to have one myself.
A pastors wife's son is in the process of having a sleeve tattoo put on his arm and in recent family pictures put on fb, has received some very rude comments concerning her son and his tattoos. The comments were cruel and uncalled for and were very hurtful to her. Even though I dislike tattoos, I would never behave in such a rude, cruel way towards a person who chose to get a tattoo. Instead, I can easily find something positive to say about it (and if I couldn't, I'd say nothing), and find out the story behind the reason why they may have chosen that specific artwork/style/picture.
 
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2. Why is singleness considered an insult? Comments along the lines of "it's obvious why this person is single" and "They are going to stay single for a long time" are pretty cruel, and hopefully the irony isn't lost on anyone that the people making these comments are also single. There's an underlying assumption in the insult that the person is single because they are undesirable (again, pretty cruel insinuation), but I wonder if that is also a reflection of what the people doling out the insults believe about themselves. Such self-cruelty is also something that should be fought against. Why don't we see singleness for the good it affords us? It offers things that life in an intimate relationship can't.

I do apologize for saying what I said. Heck, I've even had it said to me...but I'd say something back like "Better to be single than to be unhappy", but it would depend on the context. I mean, you do happen to admit the poster in question said "He did not care what other women thought" was rather telling of his attitude and of course would not win over the ladies should he ever date. These kind of comments may rear themselves while on a date and likely chase women off.

The things he said made him come off as hateful words. I rarely say, "I can see why you're single' and well, this was one of the rare cases I've said it...because it was so blatantly obvious. I just found what he said seriously disturbing and it illicited such a response and a few other responses, too.

When I said, "I guess you believe you believe that women should not work, cook, and clean"...I was actually joking around/sarcastic until he gave a serious "yes" to all that". My jaw about hit the ground. Here its' 2019 and people still believe this?

It was discovered that someone browsed his post and discovered he's a new Christian, so again I apologize as he's still learning.
 
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Edit - Nvm, really just don't care anymore. Fellowship irl is so much better.

100% agree about fellowship irl. But if you understand why that is the case, it can really help the online fellowship to an extent as well.

Also, I'm sure you have good things to say. I might disagree, and I might not, but I won't attack you.
 
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I do apologize for saying what I said. Heck, I've even had it said to me...but I'd say something back like "Better to be single than to be unhappy", but it would depend on the context. I mean, you do happen to admit the poster in question said "He did not care what other women thought" was rather telling of his attitude and of course would not win over the ladies should he ever date. These kind of comments may rear themselves while on a date and likely chase women off.

The things he said made him come off as hateful words. I rarely say, "I can see why you're single' and well, this was one of the rare cases I've said it...because it was so blatantly obvious. I just found what he said seriously disturbing and it illicited such a response and a few other responses, too.

When I said, "I guess you believe you believe that women should not work, cook, and clean"...I was actually joking around/sarcastic until he gave a serious "yes" to all that". My jaw about hit the ground. Here its' 2019 and people still believe this?

It was discovered that someone browsed his post and discovered he's a new Christian, so again I apologize as he's still learning.

I appreciate your humility. I wasn't meaning to slap any wrists, just make some observations about the discussion. In times that I have felt like I needed to attack a viewpoint or statement that I felt was egregious (like the one you refer to), what I forgot was that just in making such a statement the person was already discrediting himself/herself. Oftentimes someone will decorate their casket and climb right in for you if you let them talk enough, but if you aren't careful you might find that you wound up the one in the casket. Many times, in an effort to tear down viewpoints or attitudes I didn't like, I became exactly the thing I hated.
 
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Yes they do. Just like all the Apostles were men. I assume you understand that? :scratch:

The disciples of Christ included women, only mentioned in passing in the Bible.

Understandably since the culture of the period is extremely patriarchal. See through the cultural context of the period.
 
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Eh, it's hit or miss. I think contemporary depictions of a cross are tacky. I generally enjoy tattoos, though I don't have any of my own (yet).

I think some women look attractive with certain tattoos, like a short sleeve or something on the ribs. But then, I'm into the punk/hipster vibe.
 
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