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Approval of divorce and remarriage

Jessica Ryan

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Of course he will try to tie you to him. He knows he can manipulate you.
He sure has, I honestly think I'm trauma bonded, I had a horrible experience that had him as the perpetrator but he was the one who was there after the event to console and comfort me, we bonded, I some times wonder when I look back if it was set up, it was him, his mistress and I showed up and found out, it was like nothing, he didn't even act like I was there, he wouldn't leave or make her leave, he was whisper to her at one point, found out they were talking to figure out how to get rid of me. and then I Said that this isn’t love and he was saying to me I do love you and then she is saying he does love you. It's twisted. It's demeaning, degrading. I left he stayed with her. Here in April a yr later, he told me because I kept asking why dies it seem your always going back to her? So he yell because she blank blank like a porn star. I was shocked, devastated and it felt demeaning, how could a husband do something like that knowing how much pain he already caused me. I try to remember these moments because I don't believe god wants me to be with a man that abuses his wife that way, because it is abuse, he never is verbally abuse but that one time destroyed me, I believe that was the point.
 
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It is extremely difficult to leave relationships like this and no one can understand unless they have been through it.

The firs thing to know, is that it takes time to leave and a lot of planning. Start to think of how you can squirrel money away. Can you train for a job if employment is not open to you. Make contact with the local partner abuse agency to get advice and the support you desperately need and will not get in churches.

He must not know what you are planning. Even if you think there is some hope, you must leave and set up on your own. Cut contact then if he says he wants you back, probably through a third party, he must go through some extensive abusers therapy, with you both living apart. It has been known to work but not often if they are personality disordered.

There is a vast amount of reading online for those in this situation. I feel for you but you can do it.
 
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It is extremely difficult to leave relationships like this and no one can understand unless they have been through it.

The firs thing to know, is that it takes time to leave and a lot of planning. Start to think of how you can squirrel money away. Can you train for a job if employment is not open to you. Make contact with the local partner abuse agency to get advice and the support you desperately need and will not get in churches.

He must not know what you are planning. Even if you think there is some hope, you must leave and set up on your own. Cut contact then if he says he wants you back, probably through a third party, he must go through some extensive abusers therapy, with you both living apart. It has been known to work but not often if they are personality disordered.

There is a vast amount of reading online for those in this situation. I feel for you but you can do it.
I have been doing alot of research. He is in jail and he is going to prison. He does not no anything. I have a default divorce hearing in October. I live in a home owned by my parents. He doesn’t have anyone to help him. I can block him from calling.
 
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About a month ago he was always wanting me to go to the park so he could see me but I never went, he said everyday he looked and hoped I would be at the park when I wasn't he would be mad at me, he Said one day he realized that if I was at the park and he did see me he would feel only better but after I left he would go back to feel the way he was, he said he was looking for me to save him, fix him, but that I can't save him, that only God can, so he knows only God can help him, I was surprised by him telling me that, but it gave me joy he recognized it. It makes me want to not give up.
When your walk with God depends on someone else instead of your own will, you aren't really walking with God. "Seeing" someone doesn't mean you necessarily want the best for them (sacrificial love) it can only mean that you lust for them and want their attention selfishly. You have to remember that narcissists can have big egos an if they "think" you no longer love them then they think that first you are wrong, but over time it can hurt their ego so they play a game that they get you to love them again and once their ego is satisfied (and lusting too) they go on to the next challenge. That's right, many people aren't really interested in loving someone so much to give their lives for them and sacrifice greatly for the best for them, they are only interested in the challenge of getting something that nobody else can and their love of challenge can cause them to jump from one person to the other regardless of promises.
I can such people at times "people pleasers" in that they shower you with attention and treat you like royalty until they are sure you are their best buddy. Once they accomplish that they go on to the next challenge and start using you for their own profit and when they feel you are no longer interested in being with or helping them they go right back into PP mode again. Some of these people once they think they got you get very manipulative and can turn others around you into helping them get what they want from you. I had to divorce a few friends and relatives because I'm too easy going and by the time I got mad enough to deal with them it was very ugly.

My advice if he is can talk you into things is avoid him till the court date and with your lawyer present or lawyer to lawyer if it goes that far.
 
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Why do I struggle with to give up or to keep on fighting? It's hard.
Unless God is giving you a clue you have to look at his behavior. People typically don't change unless something drastic happens to them and if they are forced to change it may only be temporary as unless their nature has changed sooner or later they will revert back to "normal' when the condition that caused them to change is gone. Talk is cheap and broken promises and lies and abuse signal that the person isn't seeking God and thus God cannot influence them easily. One thing about divorce is that it doesn't preclude remarrying the one you divorce althought I do not suggest it because unless both people change in the former marriage history can repeat itself.
People that are abusive typically do not change overnight it can take many years even decades for them to change and those who do change struggle against that nature (or demons)

You aren't going to get perfect advice online without a very personal private in depth long discussion of the history of the situation. Those advising here are only seeing the corner of a possibly very large picture not knowing either you or your husband or those around you influencing you both. If someone has a nature of violent abuse and/or denigrates you (verbal/psychological abuse) these actions can mess up your thinking to the point that you are damaged and can't make the right decision (for you).
 
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Things have happened and I'm still here and it's crazy, I ask myself why am I hear, why do I love him? I can't answer why.
When you have sex with someone, it creates a spiritual connection. In the Bible it says two become one. God doesn't see a couple in a marriage spiritually by default but one spirit. It is not that he can't see separate spirits but the biblical hierarchy of a marriage is the family is seen as one. You are connected spiritually with your husband and I've not a clue as how to break that connection but God knows how. We love in many ways and many levels and there are differing kinds of love also and when you share everything you are with someone physically and mentally you are tethering your "all" to them. You could consider it a sort of addiction not necessarily bad but some of the same symptoms and the withdrawal from it differs between individuals some find it very hard others can easily go on to the next "drug" or relationship and feel very little.

People don't realize the spiritual properties of having sex with someone, it is connecting with them on another level for sure.
 
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Jessica Ryan

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When your walk with God depends on someone else instead of your own will, you aren't really walking with God. "Seeing" someone doesn't mean you necessarily want the best for them (sacrificial love) it can only mean that you lust for them and want their attention selfishly. You have to remember that narcissists can have big egos an if they "think" you no longer love them then they think that first you are wrong, but over time it can hurt their ego so they play a game that they get you to love them again and once their ego is satisfied (and lusting too) they go on to the next challenge. That's right, many people aren't really interested in loving someone so much to give their lives for them and sacrifice greatly for the best for them, they are only interested in the challenge of getting something that nobody else can and their love of challenge can cause them to jump from one person to the other regardless of promises.
I can such people at times "people pleasers" in that they shower you with attention and treat you like royalty until they are sure you are their best buddy. Once they accomplish that they go on to the next challenge and start using you for their own profit and when they feel you are no longer interested in being with or helping them they go right back into PP mode again. Some of these people once they think they got you get very manipulative and can turn others around you into helping them get what they want from you. I had to divorce a few friends and relatives because I'm too easy going and by the time I got mad enough to deal with them it was very ugly.

My advice if he is can talk you into things is avoid him till the court date and with your lawyer present or lawyer to lawyer if it goes that far.
He never showered me. also he was on meth alot of our marriage, in those times he acted differently, totally different person on drug.
 
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He never showered me. also he was on meth alot of our marriage, in those times he acted differently, totally different person on drug.
Not good. I would have (if I were married to someone on drugs) demand they quit and be tested as dealing with people on drugs is a losing task. If you aren't special enough to be showered with attention on occasion, then you aren't going to be in a good marriage with that person.
 
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